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Strategy Shift In The Air For Microsoft 439

mrdaveb writes "In the face of a declining market for MS Windows and MS Office, Microsoft's recent statements and acquisitions point to a future in which .NET is a key driver behind a strategy which will see Windows CE devices taking the limelight. This article explores the problems which Microsoft face in maintaining their stranglehold, and their likely route to keeping Windows on top."
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Strategy Shift In The Air For Microsoft

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  • Wear & Tear (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fembots ( 753724 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:03PM (#11623104) Homepage
    What Microsoft really needs is some way of ensuring that software wears out at a similar speed to hardware

    It gets me wondering why consumer is willing to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV that has a specific (say 20,000 hours) lifespan, but can't stand paying a $49 software that has an expiry date.

    Hardware used to last for 10-20 years (like old radios), but hardly live past 3 years nowadays, yet consumers are rushing out buying and replacing gadgets every day.

    I guess the main influence is Open Source and freeware, which sort of prevent major software makers to gang up on consumers.

    Wear & Tear on hardware is by nature, Wear & Tear on software is by design, and people can choose against that design, but not many people can break nature's monopoly.
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:06PM (#11623137)
    Because people believe microsoft FUD, people listen to it, soak it up, and without critically thinking go "yeah... they're right... that's what I need".

    witness this [danamania.com]
  • It doesn't matter (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ObsessiveMathsFreak ( 773371 ) <obsessivemathsfr ... COWet minus city> on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:08PM (#11623161) Homepage Journal
    I think we can all safely say that no matter how successful, or not, microsoft will be in the years ahead, the millions of users trained from birth to believe that windows id the worlds only operating system are unlikely to move en masse to the alternatives.
  • by MBraynard ( 653724 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:08PM (#11623164) Journal
    MS's is natural. They are having to innovate to keep their market lead. Just like US Oil having to do everything they could to cut the price of oil. You may not like the method (making things more propriatory to raise transition costs) - and these methods may backfire (seems like they may be already), but they are one way or another trying to make their product more attractive than the next guys.

    Now enter the US postal service. You try setting up a small time mail service in your city and go to jail. You try using FedEx for what the Postal Inspectors deem regular mail, and you go to jail. Similarly, if you try to stop paying into the government retirement system and start your own with higher returns.... guess what happens? Or what if you try to open your own liquir store in Virginia or Pennsylvania across from a state run ABC. Jail.

    We throw this monopoly term around way to much without acknowledging the difference between a natural, earned monopoly and a violent, coercive one.

  • Nohing new... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PincheGab ( 640283 ) * on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:10PM (#11623180)
    Is it just me or does this article state nothing new?

    - Microsoft has had the Office no-upgrade problem for a long time...

    - .NET was specifically developed to (appear to) run multi-platform (or was this an accident on the part of microsoft?)

    - The first full release of .NET was in 2002... The beta period was long before that...

    - Of course MS wants development for WinCE/PocketPC to be as easy as developing for the deskptop... Perhaps that's why you can write a PocketPC/WinCE program right on MS Developer Studio?

    - Yes, Microsoft would want everyone to rent out Office instead of buy a perpetual license. Every app developer wants that. Remember ASPs (Application Service Providers)?

    This article sounds like its written by someone who just got into computers and is just finding out what's gone on for the last 5 years...

  • Do something well. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by paithuk ( 766069 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:11PM (#11623192) Homepage
    Personally I would just like to see Microsoft do something really well for the first time. They seem to take the approach I use at University: Do it as quickly as possible and put effort in where it can be seen. This is not what I would expect when it comes to a commercial product, and only works for proof on concepts. Now 21 years later, it's pretty clear Windows isn't a POC, so buck up and give us something we can really love. (For more information, visit www.apple.com)
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Valdrax ( 32670 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:12PM (#11623210)
    There's a difference between the physical limits of hardware and designed-in product failure. People simply don't like it when a company deliberately breaks their product to soak more money out of them when they could've given people a better product that they wanted in the first place. $49 software with an expiry date is software that could've lasted you for life for $49. People resent being treated that way.
  • Re:Strategy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by temojen ( 678985 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:13PM (#11623224) Journal
    s/shareholders/board members & institutional investors/ . They're publicly traded; individual shareholders have little to no power or share of the profits.
  • Re:Strategy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:13PM (#11623229) Homepage Journal
    Microsoft will never change their strategy.... It's always going to be keep the markets cornered, and allow as little interoperability as possible.

    Most of Microsoft's success can be chalked up to two failures by one other company...

    IBM allows Bill Gates to own and sell MS-DOS under his own company's name, as IBM doesn't take the PC seriously.

    IBM fails to protect their PC design, not taking PC's seriously, and clones flourish providing a ready market for MS-DOS

    Most of everything else Microsoft has profited wildly from is centered around these two items. Microsoft has demonstrated that they are not a very inventive company by buying up lots of technology companies and immitating others. Where they have attempted to innovate in new markets they have usually fallen flat on their face and lost hundreds of millions of $. If it weren't for the O/S, Office and Server divisions Microsoft wouldn't be able to sputter so frequently.

  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jxyama ( 821091 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:14PM (#11623237)
    >I guess the main influence is Open Source and freeware, which sort of prevent major software makers to gang up on consumers.

    yeah, right, wishful thinking. "consumers" buying plasma TVs and other "gadgets" you are talking about hardly know about open source software.

    i think it's mostly because it's not "physical." unlike TV, software feels so... not real. it's just something that runs on the computer - why is it "worth" so much money?

  • by sunspot42 ( 455706 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:14PM (#11623246)

    Win CE devices are going to continue dropping in price as they become more common. There's no way Microsoft is going to be able to earn anywhere near the margins they make in the PC business on a $100 cell phone, and there's no reason why hardware makers in the competitive electronics marketplace won't switch to open source (i.e. free) alternatives in the not too distant future in order to make their products more competitive. It's not like there's a huge inventory of Win CE software out there that absolutely must be run on these portable devices.

    If MS is betting the future on CE devices, dump your MS stock right now while it's still worth something. MS remains a one trick pony, and their one trick is their OS monopoly in the PC marketplace. In spite of their billions, they've never been able to dominate any other industry and they never will because they're incapable of innovation. Their entire culture involves around theft, acquisition and intimidation. Expecting Microsoft to compete in a more open marketplace and win would be like expecting the Mafia to get into the automobile manufacturing business and compete with Toyota. They aren't structured for that kind of business, have no aptitude for it, and their strong-arm techniques only alienate customers and potential partners.
  • FUD (Score:5, Insightful)

    by X43B ( 577258 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:15PM (#11623256) Journal
    "Microsoft's profit is currently focussed on two major products - MS Windows and MS Office. Both of these are in decline."

    Only on /. can one of the most profitable companies in the world with record profit and revenue for this past quarter be considered in decline. I'm not saying I approve of how they do it, but it is funny how FUD can go both ways.
  • Re:Strategy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:17PM (#11623278)
    If Microsoft is capable of adapting to changing market conditions, they may adapt.

    But they may not be capable. The book "The Innovator's Dilemma" explores cases where corporations were not capable of adapting to changes in the market space caused by "low-end" competitors moving upward into the formerly plush (well-controlled) market.

    Open source has the potential for doing this to Microsoft, IMHO.
  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:17PM (#11623279)
    When a consumer is buying a plasma at Best Buy (for example), I don't think in fact they are buying a TV with a life of 20,000 hours. I think they have no idea that is the case, and as far as they are concerned that TV should last for years and years.

    I do not think that yet people are fully bought into the notion of device failure in a year rather than ten. After all, people are used to the TV's they had before which did last perhaps ten years or so (that was the case for my last TV, even really a bit longer than ten years).

    People still get refrigerators that last for a while, and other appliances they probably plan to keep as long as the house.

    I think also there's a function of money where people expect for hosuehold electronics/appliances to last longer as the cost increases. Certainly a lot of people expect this of cars, preferring to keep a car ten years or longer and assuming it will hold up.
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:4, Insightful)

    by WesG ( 589258 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:18PM (#11623298)
    In the face of a declining market for MS Windows...

    Declining market for MS Windows??? Show me some facts that says the market is declining for MS Windows! Microsoft just posted record profits for the quarter. How is MS Windows declining???

  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Deinesh ( 770292 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:19PM (#11623312)
    >>It gets me wondering why consumer is willing to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV that has a specific (say 20,000 hours) lifespan, but can't stand paying a $49 software that has an expiry date.

    Would you pay $10 for a t-shirt you *could not* use after a year?
    A customer is willing to pay $4999 for a plasma tv that will last 20,000 hous because it could just as well last 21,000 hours or 22,000 hours. The makers of plasma TV's aren't sabotaging their products.
  • by Valdrax ( 32670 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:19PM (#11623320)
    It's a nice conjecture, but I don't really see MS getting all that hyped about Cell when it's more likely that they see it as a competitor. After all, you don't have to be using WinCE to take advantage of the distributed architecture.

    Furthermore, Cell isn't a general purpose CPU. In fact, it may be slower for general purpose computing than today's CPUs. According to the Ars Technica article posted earlier today, they trimmed a lot of the out-of-order execution logic out of the main PowerPC component to make room for the SPEs and to let it be clocked faster. It also seems to only have a single FPU on it -- a logical move since the SPEs are vector FPUs primarily. Code not optimized for Cell (which is going to be a limited subset of multimedia applications) will run slower. The .NET VM isn't going to auto-parallelize code after all.

    Overall, I don't see MS trying to abandon x86 for Cell any time soon since x86 multimedia processing power is more than enough for most consumer applications. While Cell may take off for games, it's not going to make Office or Explorer run any faster.
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ecalkin ( 468811 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:20PM (#11623327)
    Because so far the consumer entertainment industry has made products that were better *enough* (and *cheaper*) that 3-5 years later, people are motivated to replace rather than repair

    a lot of people can see an 3 year improvement on tvs stereos, pvrs, etc. a lot of people couldn't tell you what got better in office xp over office 2000.

  • Re:Strategy? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by brian.glanz ( 849625 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:20PM (#11623334) Homepage Journal

    I agree, who wouldn't, that MS' historic stance was against inter-op in so far as inter-op harmed their business model. I see this as the primary reason they got Googled and that they are getting out-Fire Foxed. They tried to have it both ways with their approach to the Internet, but could not bend it sufficiently to the anti-inter-op will which worked for them so well, for so long.

    Not only the natural trends in technology driven by human behavior and the Net's architecture, but also the courts have certainly weighed in, and they have demonstrably changed MS. I disagree that MS would continue in the same vein, against inter-op. They are out to earn, and earn big. No one can deny smaller devices already supplanting PCs, call them "phones" if you must, and the near-future trend toward ever more hardware integration with previously offline environs (LCD paint, anyone?). MS will change their strategy to be more pro-inter-op, because that is the only way in which they can continue to earn, and maybe the only way in which they can continue to (legally) exist as MS.

    BG

  • by mrbcs ( 737902 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:21PM (#11623337)
    Not many people need the latest and greatest computers. I still have 98 running on an AMD 64 bit 3000+. (I like fast but I don't really NEED it) I still use office 97. I can't see this computer industry ever reaching previous heights.

    We don't NEED a new bug ridden Microsoft OS or Office suite. Microsoft is starting to see what the rest of the computing world has been dealing with for the last couple years.

    The industry is stagnant and there are now tons of 1 ghz machines out there that will run any old os and suit most people just fine. Business is starting to smarten up. I pity those guys that bought into the Microsoft subscription service. How much longer for Longhorn? I don't think they're getting their monies worth and I doubt they would continue the subcription the next time.

    The sooner Microsoft dies a horrible death, the happier I'll be!

  • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:22PM (#11623349)
    And yet, Microsoft was not found guilty of being a monopoly, but of employing that natural monopoly power in a criminally coercive manner in an attempt to leverage into an unnatural one.

    In effect they behave as does orginized crime.

    What was it that Argentinian minister said? Oh yes, that they do business like a drug dealer.

    KFG
  • Consumer mindset (Score:2, Insightful)

    by fembots ( 753724 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:24PM (#11623360) Homepage
    The fact that this post is modded informative shows there are people out there who will buy anything a company sells.
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:2, Insightful)

    by tonyr60 ( 32153 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:28PM (#11623401)
    Only a relatively small number of consumers are prepared to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV. Microsoft's market would be 1000's times larger. Also, a plasma TV has some "excitement" attached to it, it can be shown off to the neighbors etc. Software has long ago lost that "excitement", at least amongst your average consumers.

    Which is Microsoft's big problem. Can you imagine asking your neighbours over to look at an update to an OS, or word processor?

    There are only so many /.'s around....
  • Google! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by LesPaul75 ( 571752 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:35PM (#11623464) Journal
    I (still) say that Microsoft is being forced into changing their application delivery model by Google. What choice do they have? What happens when Google rolls out a word processor, spreadsheet, and a dozen other "Office-like" apps all of which run right in your web browser, and they offer it all at a really, really competitive price per user (especially to businesses), and Microsoft is still selling clunky old CDs?

    Look at it this way... Which would you rather have: this [microsoft.com] or this [google.com]? One of them comes on a CD, and becomes outdated very quickly unless you continously patch and upgrade it. The other is just a URL that you type into a browser, and you can let them (Google) worry about keeping it up to date.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:35PM (#11623465)
    Dude, that's like saying GM would be dead if it wasn't for the automobile division. Microsoft is an OS (Desktop & Server), and Office software company!
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ZorinLynx ( 31751 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:37PM (#11623479) Homepage
    They were rented from the phone company. When they broke, the phone company had to SPEND money to send a guy out to repair them. Hence, they had the ultimate push to create reliable products.

    The old Western Electric phones are a great example of what manufacturers are capable of, if they put quality and durability first. Since making people buy a new X every couple of years is profitable, they design X to fail after a couple of years; preferably after the warranty.

    -Z
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:3, Insightful)

    by spectre_240sx ( 720999 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:37PM (#11623481) Homepage
    "Changing" might have been a better term to describe the current Windows market. The fact that the nature of personal computing is changing is hard to disagree with. Apple is definately making new inroads now that OS X is seen as a stable operating system. Internet Explorer is losing marketshare for the first time in... 5 years? People seem to be waking up and realizing that there are options out there that don't include having their comptuters full of spyware. Although the number of people buying windows and other microsoft products is still growing, the number of people looking at alternative products is growing as well.
  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RealAlaskan ( 576404 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:48PM (#11623622) Homepage Journal
    It gets me wondering why consumer is willing to pay $4999 for a Plasma TV that has a specific (say 20,000 hours) lifespan, ...

    If you watch TV 8 hours a day, five days a week, that translates to a 10 year lifespan. I realize that you probably picked that figure out of the air, but here's a site that says 30,000 hours [plasmatvbuyingguide.com].

    Hardware used to last for 10-20 years (like old radios), but hardly live past 3 years nowadays, ...

    A 10 to 15 year lifespan isn't too terrible for hardware, which naturally wears out. Plasma TVs seem to be about as long-lasting as cars.

    ... but can't stand paying a $49 software that has an expiry date.

    As another post mentioned, most folks are willing to accept the idea that hardware naturally wears out, even if well made. In contrast, the idea of paying for something that is made to die before it wears out, just to make you pay for it again, rubs most of us the wrong way.

  • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:50PM (#11623645) Homepage Journal
    Dude, that's like saying GM would be dead if it wasn't for the automobile division.

    General Motors and Ford have, for the past couple years, only shown a profit in the finance divisions. Automotive operations have broken even at best, but usually are racking up losses.

    Microsoft is an OS (Desktop & Server), and Office software company!

    Microsoft should be a technology company. They're still very profitable, thanks to all the locked in customers and upgrade paths, but for how much longer? We gripe a lot about their products for good reason, they don't have adequate competition to keep them on the rivet, making their products the best they can be, rather than the slop they release.

  • Re:FUD (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ultranova ( 717540 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2005 @06:58PM (#11623760)

    Only on /. can one of the most profitable companies in the world with record profit and revenue for this past quarter be considered in decline. I'm not saying I approve of how they do it, but it is funny how FUD can go both ways.

    Being the most profitable company in the world and being in decline are two separate statements that in no way contradict each other. Neither do record profits contradict decline, due to the rather ambigious nature of the word "decline".

    Consider a corporation that is steadily losing markets to other corporations (and yes, this is happening to Microsoft - Linux market share is growing, and since all market shares must add up to exactly 100%, someone else must be declining). If the total market is growing, that corporation could easily be making record profits (by growing its absolute sales) while still losing market share (declining).

    What makes it worse in Microsoft's case is that their business model is based on being the best known alternative. Windows and Office are so widely used that they are de facto standards. If Microsoft loses market share, this position is threatened, which will lead to further losses - applications will get ported to other operating systems and other file formats will be used for document exchange (and secretaries will learn to use other office programs), making Microsoft's programs seem worse and worse in comparison. So any decline in market share is very bad news for Microsoft. This might also tempt Microsoft to try and make it look like it was having record revenue, to imply that it had record sales and is therefore not going anywhere and therefore still the wise choice.

    Disclaimer: I haven't read the article, nor have I examined either market shares of various products or Microsoft Corporation in any detail. I'm just speculating how these seemingly contradictory claims could be true simultaneously.

  • Re:Wear & Tear (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 10, 2005 @01:54AM (#11627084)
    I sure hope you realise thats a joke...

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