IE7 Announced for Longhorn and WinXP 755
sriram_2001 writes "There is now an official announcement from Bill Gates on Internet Explorer 7. It will be available in beta form this summer for Longhorn and XP SP2. The IEBlog has commentary about the decision making process that went into the new browser version." Coming on the heels of the June Beta announcement for Longhorn, if things go as planned it will likely be here in early summer. The new browser's early arrival was first discussed last year.
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:5, Informative)
Re:beleive it when i see it.. (Score:1, Informative)
2. Mozilla stole tabs from Opera
Indeed, how much is copied from other browsers.
Re:Maybe they'll do it right this time... (Score:1, Informative)
Anyway, lets hope they have fixed the PNG and standards compliance issues (XHTML and CSS).
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:1, Informative)
Shame we won't see much more tech evolving in the market place with patents on everything.
Re:Maybe they'll do it right this time... (Score:5, Informative)
(without the nasty DirectX hack)
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Link to IE7 Alpha (and code?) (Score:2, Informative)
IE7 loads and parses all style sheets into a form that Explorer can understand. You can then use most CSS2/CSS3 selectors without having to resort to CSS hacks.
The lightweight script is a single-line inclusion in your HTML/XML document. No alteration of your original markup is necessary. Neither do you have to alter your CSS.
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Yippee (Score:3, Informative)
The stated focus is on security, so presumably that means better pop-up blocking, protection from rogue active elements and so on. Hopefully there will also be resources devoted to addressing at least some of the more glaring instances of IE's deviations from the W3C's HTML and CSS standards. Even though I use Firefox exclusively, anything Microsoft does to help remove all those CSS coding hacks and keep people from inadvertantly becoming yet another node of a BotNet for those PC users yet to see the light is fine by me!
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:5, Informative)
The Microsoft Antispyware program will stay free for personal users, but for sysadmins who need a managed solution, Microsoft will charge for that package.
Also, a unified Microsoft OS & application update service focused on consumers and small businesses, called Microsoft Update, will be released this March. The enterprise Microsoft update product, Windows Update Services (WUS) - the follow up to SUS, will be released sometime in the first half of this year.
Re:Probably not... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Probably not... (Score:5, Informative)
freedom of speech applies only to the government. microsoft, or anyone, is allowed to block whatever they want. just like your employer can make you sign a NDA (which limits your right to speak about what you know).
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:5, Informative)
At least in the stripped-down IE they ship with the SDK -- the tabs there are working nicely. Not as good as on FireFox with TBE, but better than on bare-bones FireFox.
Of course, everything else is still the old crap.
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:0, Informative)
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203124042/www.ope
NetCaptor had them in 1999:
http://web.archive.org/web/19991012033213/http://
7/30/1999: "NetCaptor turns the browser world upside down. Unlike other browsers which only view one site at a time or crowd multiple windows together, NetCaptor opens sites on separate browser tabs."
Re:IE.Net? (Score:5, Informative)
I have VS6 and VS
All things considered, both are good. I use VS 6.0 more because old habits die hard (same reason I still use Borland C++Builder for certain kinds of projects - I'm used to the debug/stepping interface in certain circumstances).
Re:Yippee (Score:2, Informative)
IE itself doesn't load, but the HTML rendering engine (mshtml.dll and dependencies) loads along with the system shell (explorer.exe). The IE "web brower" is just a simple gui wrapper on top of a rendering engine, similar to Mozilla's gui on top of the Gecko engine. On this Win2k box, IE6's mshtml file is 2.8 megs.
>If IE 7 has been decoupled from Windows that would be the one greatest security improvement Microsoft could perform.
The IE engine was integrated into Windows at version 4, before Win98 was released; the new enhanced windows shell was called the "Windows Shell Update", and basically turned the Win95/NT4 explorer shell into one similar to Win98's shell (with some features missing of course). To fully decouple the engine from the OS would be to remove all support of HTML rendering in the shell, which doesn't seem like something Microsoft would do (would be nice though). The only way to do that would be to use a replacement shell that doesn't depend on the HTML engine. Currently the only 2 Windows shells that meet that are the Win95 and NT4 shells.
-eventhorizon
The stupid tab debate (Score:3, Informative)
Proof that Opera had it before Galeon (Score:5, Informative)
The changelog of galeon reads:NetCaptor was the first browser according to the Wikipedia article.
Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox (Score:4, Informative)
Dear Word Detective: Can you tell me the etymology of "tabs" when used to mean to watch something or someone, as in "to keep tabs on
Oh, please. Dictionary editors always pull that "origin unknown" stuff when it's Friday afternoon and they're in a hurry to tie one on. Most people accept Samuel Johnson's definition of lexicographers as "harmless drudges," but the truth is that the average dictionary office would give Animal House a run for its money. I'll bet the Editor-in-Chief took a big swig of Old Webster's as he tossed the entry for "Tabs" into his out box, shouting "Origin unknown!" as the room collapsed in drunken laughter.
Just kidding (although many lexicographers probably wish I weren't). The origin of "tab" in the "file folder" sense is indeed unknown, but the root of "tabs" in the "I'm watching you" sense is more certain.
The sort of "tab" found at the top of file folders is an extension of the root sense of "tab," which is, as those party animals over at the Oxford English Dictionary put it, "A short broad strap, flat loop, or the like, attached by one end to an object, or forming a short projecting part by which a thing can be taken hold of, hung up, fastened, or pulled." This "tab" appeared at the start of the 17th century and may simply be a modification of "tag."
To keep "tabs" (or "a tab") on someone, however, is short for "tablet" in the sense of "writing tablet," i.e., an account book or written record. Thus, when Santa Claus is described as "making a list and checking it twice," he is "keeping a tab" (or "tabs") on all those naughty and nice kiddies, much as John Ashcroft does with computers. This use of "tab" is relatively recent, first appearing in the late 19th century. The same sense of "tab" meaning "written account" is found in "tab" meaning "restaurant check."
Wrong (Score:3, Informative)
You have no clue what you are talking about. In Kde tabs are a part of kmdi which is a part of kdelibs. Konqueror and Konsole choose to show tabs differently, (as do most other apps), but the code for both is the same on the bottom level.
Re:Shortsightedness (of tabbed-browsing) (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The stupid tab debate (Score:1, Informative)
Re:IE.Net? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Beta Release? (Score:5, Informative)
Mac OS X still runs almost all programs written for System 7 and up via Classic (not too dissimilar to Microsoft's approach), and even many programs from the original 128K (if you can find them - Illustrator 0.8 runs, for example, as do many old black and white games). Meanwhile, we've undergone a complete shift in processor architecture and OS architecture, but all of our ancient 68K software keeps on working.
THAT is an amazing feat, far moreso than the pure evolution of x86 and Win16/Win32.