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Knoppix 3.8 at CeBIT w/ Kernel 2.6, FF, and More 283

clsc writes "The German tech news site Heise Online reports that Knoppix 3.8 is being presented at CeBIT (Hall 9, Stand C39). Knoppix 3.8 has kernel 2.6 as default, KDE 3.3.2, OpenOffice 1.1.4, as well as... Firefox 1.0 and Thunderbird 1.0. There's also a really neato new thing involving unionfs . It seems to imply that you can change most anything on the running system, even as it is running from CD - and changes can be stored too (even on NTFS)."
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Knoppix 3.8 at CeBIT w/ Kernel 2.6, FF, and More

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  • by ErichTheWebGuy ( 745925 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @04:17AM (#11821451) Homepage
    Or maybe with multi-session CDs, assuming that there is enough room on the CD? Programs could be loaded with the changes you have made, say, to config files... Doesn't seem impossible, and probably more reliable than a CD-RW...

  • by Gopal.V ( 532678 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @04:21AM (#11821465) Homepage Journal
    Back when knoppix came out - it was a curiousity. Mainly because most systems needed hours of configurations to get it working "the way I want it". Small things like hooking up a "fetchmail" before "postfix flush" or putting both into the if-up scripts. Morphix was the first step towards that (eg if you want to browse securely from a cyber-cafe - without any keyloggers peeking).

    Now with lots of machines with 512 Mb and greater RAM, a LiveCD doesn't sound that bad. This unionfs thing clinches it - but the catch is still that if you change your machine, all this is lost. All that said, LiveCDs are here to stay (I think LiveDVDs might be just around the corner ..)

  • by Mad Merlin ( 837387 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @04:39AM (#11821527) Homepage
    Would you prefer to see these good ideas merely ignored also?
  • by zarkzervo ( 634677 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @04:42AM (#11821539) Homepage Journal
    I like to take it with me to the computer store to try out on the various laptops I am considering buying.

    "Sir!. I want you to leave the store. Or else I'll have to call the police. Your |\/|4D h4x0R 5k1Lz have no place here."

    But seriously. I believe you have to be prepared to use about 30 minutes to explain to the clerk what you are trying to do. Too many have not heard about Linux (and even fewer have heard about Knoppix) and think you are damaging the setup of the computers.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @06:35AM (#11821859)
    Why? Flash is cheap.

    And really, unless you're dealing with old PCs that don't have USB, why not just stick the entire distro on a USB flash drive?
  • by ettlz ( 639203 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @08:27AM (#11822178) Journal
    If they won't let you try a Linux bootable CD, then don't bother with them. They can't be a very good store. I bought my notebook at a department store whose staff were more than willing for me to go through display machines seeing which ones booted the Red Hat 9 installer. They made me feel like they wanted me to spend money there.
  • Re:Bullshit! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by psyon1 ( 572136 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @10:08AM (#11822679) Homepage
    Why does it matter if a person installs a trojan? Any good store should reimage the system before its sold if it was a demo, and I doubt your customers are doing their banking from the demos.
  • by cerberusss ( 660701 ) on Wednesday March 02, 2005 @04:53PM (#11826992) Journal
    Much smarter!! I'm going to put up a link to your site! BTW I don't know whether you thought of this, but this can potentially also squeeze some minutes out of a laptop battery: reading a bunch of files on one fell swoop will potentially avoid costly harddisk spinning up later.

    Again, smart. Amazing what one can do with some simple shellscripting.

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