Knoppix 3.8 at CeBIT w/ Kernel 2.6, FF, and More 283
clsc writes "The German tech news site Heise Online reports that Knoppix 3.8 is being presented at CeBIT (Hall 9, Stand C39). Knoppix 3.8 has kernel 2.6 as default, KDE 3.3.2, OpenOffice 1.1.4, as well as... Firefox 1.0 and Thunderbird 1.0. There's also a really neato new thing involving unionfs . It seems to imply that you can change most anything on the running system, even as it is running from CD - and changes can be stored too (even on NTFS)."
cool (Score:4, Interesting)
Knoppix is really good (Score:5, Interesting)
That's how I decided which fileservers to buy to run my distribution center.
Re:Knoppix is really good (Score:3, Interesting)
coLinux and live CDs (Score:5, Interesting)
No need to reboot to demo linux, that could well be sweet.
Knoppix can REALLY impress (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Knoppix has come full circle (Score:3, Interesting)
Writing to NTFS... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:coLinux and live CDs (Score:2, Interesting)
I use it that way and it works very good.
Now we need simple online storage - GMail FS anybo (Score:4, Interesting)
Sure you can carry around a USB key and store your settings there. But imagine being able to boot a machine anywhere and beinga ble to retrieve your field from something ala Yahoo briefcase.
Solutions exist out there; think GMailFS
If they would include this on the KNOPPIX CD with automount and all..
I am drooling just thinking about the possibilities!
No, go kio_fuse instead! (Score:4, Interesting)
You can get 1 GB of webdav accessible space at GMX.net for free if you know enough German to get around the freemail signup.
Re:Knoppix can REALLY impress (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Knoppix can REALLY impress (Score:5, Interesting)
However, and I'm currently typing on just such a system, it's not as fast as you'd hope. The reason is that LiveCDs use compression on the filesystems so you have that overhead preventing things from being as fast as it could be. But certainly as big RAM goes mainstream there is no doubt in my mind that the idea of running the whole system from RAM is inevitable. Like I say, I'm already there albeit using a compressed filesystem.
As for this unionfs thing. Is that completely unrelated to klik? That's a pretty cool development on Knoppix that has come a long way in a very short time. You can already install most Debian packages on Knopppix without a hard drive install using Klik. And even better, you can save the packages to hard drive or removeable media. So, you don't lose them at all when you change to another machine.
This totally rocks. I'm not sure if it's related to the unionfs thing, but it certainly deserves mention because it is hot shit.
Re:Knoppix can REALLY impress (Score:1, Interesting)
- create a ramdisk and mount it as
- copy the files from the previos
- make an image of the ramdrive on shutdown
- load the image at boottime
except for point 3 this is exactly what knoppix does. So it CAN be done.
Re:write to its own disk? (Score:3, Interesting)
In the german article it says:
Through unionfs it is possible to change every file on the knoppix-system. But this doesnt mean the cd,
unionfs just takes care of this, and if you, let's say, change ~/.xinitrx, it copies this file to the harddisk, which can be on NTFS (but this is called unstable..).
And through that you theoretically can change the whole knoppix, install software, whatever you like, because your changes are on the harddrive.
Hope, this helped you.
Re:spyware/malware cleaner on a livecd (Score:3, Interesting)
Imagine the interest generated when you boot off the live CD and then manage to remove all the malware infesting a users machine, even the stubborn stuff, whilst simultaneously showing off some Linux goodness at the same time.
Even better automate the whole cleanup process and end it with a nice "If you were running Linux full time you wouldn't have got all this crap in the first place" message.
This would very soon get a new meme into the user population "Linux removes viruses & spyware, Linux good, Linux is my friend, me want". Especially if a few media outlets pick up on it.
Remastered with e17 (Score:1, Interesting)
I use KDE and Gnome on a regular basis but showing people KDE is getting fairly bland. Yes, I know there are two schools of thought on this eyecandy vs. clean/simple/functional, but knoppix *is* for showing off to a certain extent.
Re:And if you want Knoppix to run from the hard dr (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I like knoppix and all (Score:2, Interesting)
Remastering your own custom KNOPPIX (Score:4, Interesting)
I built a custom system maintenance image for work in a couple of hours. Among the changes:
Unfortunately, DOSemu stripped out wholedisk access, so I have to restore the MBR with dd .
Pretty damn useful... it's the only system maintenance CD that boots on all of our hardware.
If only grub could be bootstrapped from CD, we would also use it to boot into existing systems and it'd be perfect!
Re:Knoppix can REALLY impress (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/mrogers/quickstart.h tml [ucl.ac.uk]