Open Source Social Bookmarking Service

comforteagle writes "This past week I launched an open source social bookmarking competitor to del.icio.us - de.lirio.us. After running it for a while open to the public it appears to be running relatively bug free so this is the invitation to the Slashdot crowd. The code is entirely open and the content is cc licensed, so I'm sure it won't take too long for folks to cook up some additional tools aside from the blogging feature. For those not familiar the meme is social bookmarking, which is basically a service to share bookmarks publicly instead (or in addition to) only within your browser. There are lots of other additional benefits, but that's the gist of it. More details here and here."

quite an effect

[millette]

Interesting conversation on the del.icio.us list [del.icio.us], give you an idea from both sides.

Rubric

[phUnBalanced]

Here's a direct link to the software on CPAN:

http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Rubric-0.06/ [cpan.org]

Re:Rubric

[phUnBalanced]

The software is in no way affiliated directly with the project, only in that they use the software.

I'm friends with Rubric's author, but not associated with either project otherwise.

There's an installation of rubric [wikalong.org] also setup to work with wikalong [wikalong.org], a Firefox extension.

I stumbled upon this

[nastyphil]

www.stumbleupon.com a couple of years ago. Sites are submitted, categorised and then can be rated. Using a (Moz or IE) toolbar you can stumble through the sites according to a mixture of preferences.

It to me epitomises the "surfing" part of the web.

Re:I don't understand...

[killjoe]

I don't know about blogging but I love delicious. First of all with the foxylicious plug in to firefox I can have access to my bookmarks anywhere. Secondly I always find facinating things people have bookmarked. Sometimes I look up one of my own categories, other times I just type in a random word and see what people thought was valuable enough to bookmark.

If you haven't used foxylicous then you are not taking full advantage of delicious.

then allow me to explain...

[Anonymous Coward]

on the topic of social bookmarking, there are two uses:
1. as one person already mentioned, you can have access to all your bookmarks when you're away from your machine -- without having to carry any removable media with you.
2. since they're categorized, you can find new links to pages on your topic of interest -- links that have been handpicked by humans. it's like an intelligent filter for search engines.

How do you use it?

[PhracturedBlue]

Ok, call me clueless, I've never heard of social-bookmarking, but I faithfully clicked on the link, and it looks like a very cool idea. It could make it easy to find specialty sites. As someone else said, it's like a human-filtered google. But one thing seems to be missing....How do you search?
I'd like to see a list of ALL availiable tags. Or search for tags associated with one of my bookmarks (to try to find similar sites) But I see no such capability. Do you need to login to use it? I looked at del.icio.us, and at least there it appears I may get additional functionality by registering, but I see no point in that. Why force me to register in order to search other people's bookmarks (assuming I need to)?
Or is this is meant by 'cook up additional tools'? Forgive me, but the site layout is atrocious, and it really seems like there is very limited capability to me.

Oh well. Maybe I'm bitching about nothing. Id so, please show me.

Why social bookmarking is kinda cool

[IvyMike]

Several comments above say, "I don't get why it's cool." Here's my take on it:
1: You can access your bookmarks from many computers
2: You can check out the "popular links" on the site to see what's probably going to show up on slashdot tomorrow.
3: You can tag bookmarks with multiple tags, so they can be accessed from multiple folders.
4: Great way to share cool links with a group of friends.
5: Firefox RSS feed of your own bookmarks = totally slick

And now, social bookmarking problems.

[IvyMike]

Of course, it does have problems, too.
1: When the social bookmarking goes down, you've effectively got no bookmarks. (Foxylicious helps, but it can still be annoying when the site goes down.)
2: You can leak information about yourself, and if the URL contains any secret information, you're really screwed.
3: There's no way easy way save a hierarchy and have it integrate into the browser in a slick way.
4: It gets spammed every so often (people trying to get their links onto the popular page, for example)

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s?

[Pollardito]

Could someone give some examples of bookmarks you would want to be private?

* intranet links
* development websites
* your bank's website (esp. if they can see this bookmark in combination with others that might be used to build an identity trail)
* goatse

but i can't imagine posting bookmarks to a third-party website unless i was generally ok if for some reason they became public (accidental or otherwise), so maybe i'm agreeing with you.

Re:I don't understand...

[JanneM]

The point of blogging depends entirely on your desired audience. You go all the way from people fishing for as wide an audience as possible, to a blog most like a private journal, except it's sort-of public as a way to solicit feedback.

You can have blogs aiming for your chess/vintage car /BDSM-club, for other developers in your company, for your family or whatever. I write a blog, and my targeted audience is my family and my friends; in effect, it's a substitute for occasional group emails. If somebody else happens to stumble onto it they are welcome to read it, but it'll probably be pretty boring for them. That's ok - they aren't the target audience after all.

Re:Social Bookmarking or...

[csjavi]

Well, tubgirl seemed to be on the front page a couple of times. Does that count as a flood (of porn links)?

Firefox plug-in

[herrison]

Bookmarks synchroniser is fantastic. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&version=1.0&os=Windows&catego ry=Bookmarks&numpg=10&id=14

Re:I stumbled upon this

[adpowers]

I wasn't too big a fan of StumbeUpon. First, I don't use Moz, I use Safari, which made it a hassle to use FireFox with their toolbar (I like del.icio.us's bookmarklet). Also, the Stumbles didn't seem very smart. It would often give me the same websites and they were usually predictable. They were also almost always top level domain websites. With del.icio.us, I find useful websites that are all around the internet. I find del.icio.us much more useful. I didn't think I would end up using it, but I did and I enjoy it.

Experiment in link whoring

[tod_miller]

Link to Bookmarks Synchroniser [mozilla.org]

Requires: Firefox: 1.0PR - 1.0 Bookmarks Synchronizer is a Mozilla Firefox extension that let you connect to an FTP/WebDAV server and synchronize your bookmarks that are stored in an XML file. Setup is easy; just write in your FTP/WebDAV server address, username, password and a name for the XML file

{disclaimer: karma whoring doesn't work anymore, just seeing if mods will think a clickable link is 'worthy' of a mod point, and scry a general consensus on the issue}

{oh, and ph33r my l33t htmlz sk1llz}

Creative Commons but non-commercial restricted

[lennier]

Note that the Creative Commons button on the de.lirio.us site shows it to be using BY-NC-SA, ie, with the NonCommercial variant.

If I understand correctly, that's not compatible with the GFDL even in spirit, ie, you can't pull de.lirio.us data into Wikipedia. You also couldn't legally put an extract of that data, _or any derivative dataset_, into an RPM package that could be included on any Linux boxed CD set.

Be careful of collaborative projects that use NonCommercial, especially with ShareAlike. It puts a lot of restrictions on what you might want to do later down the track. I don't think it would be worthwhile my contributing to a project like this simply because the licence means the data is useless to me.