Open Source Social Bookmarking Service 263
comforteagle writes "This past week I launched an open source social bookmarking competitor to del.icio.us - de.lirio.us. After running it for a while open to the public it appears to be running relatively bug free so this is the invitation to the Slashdot crowd. The code is entirely open and the content is cc licensed, so I'm sure it won't take too long for folks to cook up some additional tools aside from the blogging feature. For those not familiar the meme is social bookmarking, which is basically a service to share bookmarks publicly instead (or in addition to) only within your browser. There are lots of other additional benefits, but that's the gist of it. More details here and here."
...okay... (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, having source code to a del.icio.us like service available is nice, don't get me wrong. But I don't see how it makes del.irio.us itself any better. I'm not going to be upgrading the software on del.irio.us anytime soon.
Nice Ad (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (Score:4, Insightful)
Now I could modify delirious to have this feature but I don't have enough time and incentive. But something I do find odd are the names. I've always thought the del.ici.ous name was odd, but this is ridiculous. Is there something in social bookmarking that requires things to have periods in the middle of everything? Or is delirious just copying delicious?
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Re:I don't understand... (Score:2, Insightful)
Obviously it lacks the dungeon crawling and killing people, but it still retains much of the social interaction. And as a benefit, it emphasizes socially beneficial activities such as sharing and openness rather than grouping and attacking.
It's a bad analogy because the two things being compared are fairly dissimilar, however this kind of "Social bookmarking" is very new and innovative without precedent.
Whether it can turn up something good is another story, but as far as a technology goes, it is pretty neat.
Re:I don't understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
And all the other stuff just sits there not harming anyone. And its good that people write stuff, rather than spending that half hour watching tv, or doing something useful... Its good to work out your brain even if no one in the world is interested! (heres my brain workout [webeisteddfod.com]
Re:I don't understand... (Score:2, Insightful)
The internet is a big place but sometimes it is difficult to find the cool stuff. I would use this service in the same manner that I use boingboing and memepool, to find the cool and interesting stuff buried in the web. Stuff that I might not stumble upon on my own. That is one of the many things that a service like this offers.
Re:I don't understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
your comments form a blog of sorts. i'm nearing 5000 mostly useless posts yet some people have found a quite good amount of them insightful, informative and so on.. even some that are funny! some aspects of the blogging community is just re-inventing slashdot(in a distributed uncontrolled way that mostly is a mess of people rambling about meme of the week).
personal blogs tend to be boring. most people have boring lifes, but don't want to admit it.
Blogging...posting on /. ... it's a slippery slope (Score:5, Insightful)
By posting here & now you're letting us know your opinion. We read it because we're interested in comparing your views to ours, learning something you know that we don't.
Bloggers are just doing that too, letting anyone interested know what they think or have learnt. Maybe on a more regular basis, in a more defined structure, but it's essentially the same thing.
Re:I don't understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
There is a positive side to all this though. Though we're all so isolated from our immediate neighbors, technology allows us to form virtual communities with those who have common interests. Look at open source software or Wikipedia-- most contributors are drawn in at first by the product, but eventually become members of a community. Firefox is a fine browser, but without colorful personalities behind it like Blake and Hyatt, it would never have taken off so quickly. People identify with the leaders, feel like they have a common bond, and interact that way. Even really small and silly niches, like Mac product rumors, can spawn a community.
You have to be aware of some of this yourself though. Why post on slashdot at all, if not for the vague feeling that you're connecting with other human beings? We all long for connections, and being denied by our physical community, build virtual ones instead.
It's as simple as that.
Re:I don't understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
I find it quite useful to see what other people have bookmarked using the same tag. In fact, it's kind of like a human-filtered Google search. Why wade through pages of questionable search results when I can check del.icio.us and see what sites people looking for the same thing thought were worth visiting?
Also, I think your comparison to blogs is unfair. Blogs are the modern equivalent of a crappy Geocities website. Del.icio.us has more in common with Wikipedia than blogs.
Yahoo!!?? Anyone? (Score:1, Insightful)
What's conceptually new here?
A project is only as good as its accessibility (Score:5, Insightful)
I hit the site. I couldn't tell what to do. I generally like the idea of ranking and sharing bookmarks but I couldn't tell how your technology or system had anything to do with it.
Someone else will come along. Maybe with a less capable system, but with a better way of translating and explaining the value of such an application and they will trump you. Sometimes if you're too engrossed into the technical details you can screw yourself over. Either you will adapt quickly, or someone else will take your idea and make it more marketable, but what I see right now won't work.
Re:I don't understand... (Score:2, Insightful)
your comments form a blog of sorts.
It also forms a forum of sorts. But people don't use that word, forum, because it isn't the hip word. The hip word is blog today.
Times are changing, webapps are no longer tarpits (Score:5, Insightful)
I can easily make a portal page from del.icio.us, by using the rss feature combined with tags search. I can dynamically query and feed my del.icio.us bookmarks into my blog or webpage info. I can integrate them right into my browser UI with Firefox's "live bookmarks". Compare that to them sitting in a directory, statically, on my home computer.
The days where web apps are tarpits of information are slowly disappearing. Soon, apps will interoperate with each other because it provides a competitive advantage (want to move from livejournal to blogger? Blogger is going to make this as easy as possible for you, and Livejournal provides the interface because people use it for site syndication). Already, data sharing is very easy, and getting easier. It's only a matter of time before the real tipping point happens, and then the real question will be "Who has the best interface for handling my data," instead of "Who will avoid squirreling my data away in a dark hole."
Re:whatever happened to homepages? (Score:1, Insightful)
This is fantasy nostalgia land. 90% of the web was crap then, 90% of the web is crap now. The only reason what you're talking about "worked" then was that that everyone was linking to the same 10% of sites. Then Yahoo came along and everyone just linked to Yahoo.
Around the time that that 10% started to get too big for Yahoo, Google came along and made a hell of a lot easier to find what you wanted out of that 10%. Now, the web has grown and changed so that it's too big and complex even for Google. So people are starting to use other people to help keep that 10% managable.
Too bad Google is repeatedly and regularly fooled. For a bunch of guys that are so goddamn smart, they seem to regularly get taken to task
Have you considered that web searching might be a pretty hard problem? And that spam and SEOs existed long before Google? And that you're completely out of your mind if you think things were better before Google?
Maybe I'm old, but Netscape stored its bookmarks in an HTML file you could regularly FTP up to your homepage, or something similar. Oh, and back in the day, if you had the time, you could update your homepage a lot. That was kinda like what you kids keep telling me is so "revolutionary"- this whole 'web log' thing.
Now you're just being an ass. So the fuck what if you could do the same thing five or ten years ago? It's quicker, easier, and simpler today, and you know what? It turns out that a lot more people actually do it when it's quicker, easier, and simpler. If you think this is a bad thing, you're an elitist prick.
So pardon while I yawn at this service which..um..does what? Let me post my bookmarks? Which I can do already?
You don't actually have any idea what you're talking about, do you? You just read a few comments and all of a sudden thought you knew what it was. And what, really, is your point? Nobody is stopping you from having your fucking FTP'd bookmarks.html. Hell, I encourage it. Meanwhile, the rest of us have found a better way to maintain our bookmarks.
Seriously- the web is supposed to be decentralized.
And it is. It just happens that some nodes are more significant than others. If Google disappeared tomorrow, the web would continue to function with hardly any problems, except perhaps a marked increase in bitching about the lack of a decent search engine.
[I just looked at your post history and it's evident that all you do is complain, so I guess you would be among those.]
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Scuttle (Score:1, Insightful)
One of the reasons I've been wanting to run my own version of del.ico.us is that the site has had quite a bit of downtime and issues with bandwidth. I'd much rather run my own version for myself and perhaps family and friends in order to ensure that we don't lose our data and can access it however/whenever we wish. I'd also like to imrpove upon some of the things that interest me in regards to the interface and such.
Re:Confusing (Score:1, Insightful)