Open Source Social Bookmarking Service 263
comforteagle writes "This past week I launched an open source social bookmarking competitor to del.icio.us - de.lirio.us. After running it for a while open to the public it appears to be running relatively bug free so this is the invitation to the Slashdot crowd. The code is entirely open and the content is cc licensed, so I'm sure it won't take too long for folks to cook up some additional tools aside from the blogging feature. For those not familiar the meme is social bookmarking, which is basically a service to share bookmarks publicly instead (or in addition to) only within your browser. There are lots of other additional benefits, but that's the gist of it. More details here and here."
Confusing (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I don't understand... (Score:4, Interesting)
Great news today for del.icio.us ! (Score:5, Interesting)
some info... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I stumbled upon this (Score:2, Interesting)
Open Source Social Engineering Service (Score:0, Interesting)
Social Bookmarking or... (Score:5, Interesting)
Granted, not everyone would be upset with a flood of porn links... *cough*
But, like any thing that may at some time be 'good', it will go bad.
Is open-source a significant advantage here? (Score:4, Interesting)
Having an open-source implementation of social bookmarking similar to del.icio.us [del.icio.us] is nifty, and kudos to the author for writing it. But what does the user actually gain by switching? Del.icio.us already has a web-service API (complete with Python wrapper [hackdiary.com]) and RSS feeds of its data. The above link shows that the development process is already pretty open -- follow it and the links from there to see what people have done with del.icio.us.
Users of the new service will not be able to take advantage of the network effect that del.icio.us already has going for it; given that we're talking about social sites, this is significant. So, to summarize, yay source code, but what is the benefit here?
You might want to check out maple (Score:1, Interesting)
http://maple.nu/ [maple.nu]
I'm a fan of Furl (Score:4, Interesting)
The main reason why those services are so useful is bookmark searching. They allow you (at least furl does) to search for keywords within the pages you bookmarked effectively turning it into your "personal Google". It changes the way you work with bookmarks.
As for sharing bookmarks, furl gives you a preference option where you can have all your bookmarks private by default if it bothers you when they are shared.
Re:Social Bookmarking or... (Score:1, Interesting)
It's already happened. Sometimes it's an obvious script-kiddie type of thing, sometimes it's some idiot hyping his lameass blog, and sometimes it's astroturfing "This is the best web-host ever!!!"
Mostly, though, it's not a problem.
But, like any thing that may at some time be 'good', it will go bad.
People still use email, blogs, and IM, dispite all of them being choked to the gills with spam.
whatever happened to homepages? (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's a better question. Remember way back in the day, when search engines were kinda finiky? When we found a cool site, we didn't just bookmark it, we added it to our personal homepage. Along with something to tell people what that site was, and hopefully we made sensible links [w3.org]. How is this better than that?
Google capitalized on that linking, figuring the more people linked to a page/site, the better it must be. Too bad everyone stopped keeping homepages or publishing their bookmarks. Too bad SEO's, spammers, and bloggers figured out there wasn't much linking going on, so the system would be easily tipped. Too bad Google is repeatedly and regularly fooled. For a bunch of guys that are so goddamn smart, they seem to regularly get taken to task...and what are they doing during this? Goofing off with mapping and social communities and webmail and and and and..basically falling into the same trap Apple did many years ago, the same trap HP fell into a few years ago... Overdiversification.
Maybe I'm old, but Netscape stored its bookmarks in an HTML file you could regularly FTP up to your homepage, or something similar. Oh, and back in the day, if you had the time, you could update your homepage a lot. That was kinda like what you kids keep telling me is so "revolutionary"- this whole 'web log' thing.
So pardon while I yawn at this service which..um..does what? Let me post my bookmarks? Which I can do already?
Seriously- the web is supposed to be decentralized. Why do I keep seeing all these people expecting me to put my eggs in their basket? The search engine article earlier today was great- part of the reason Google sucks these days is precisely because we put all our eggs in the Google basket, when there were at least a few other good engines, like Teoma, for example. Google lost the motivation to innovate, because they didn't have to. Frankly, searching these days with Google is like walking down a supermarket baking supplies isle and having people scream at you...and what are those boxes of cereal doing here in the baking supplies?
Collaborative Aggregation (Score:3, Interesting)
While StumbleUpon (mentioned above somewhere) is nice, and Amazon has their booklist sharing function (which I'm sure they've patented, *hmpf*), the contender for social bookmarking seems to be Google Answers [google.com], from the Expert Sites category. However, rather than cross-referencing and indexing their DB, Google choose to let users mine it with (surprise) a search function, so you need to do some digging if the question is not well-defined and this causes the product to be pretty immature IMHO.
An extension of the concept into Wikipedia would be WikiStrings (suggested name), a group of terms spanning otherwise unrelated topics, plus a text field - the WikiString term - which explains the informational value of packaging the terms together, e.g. "Why Nationality is Stupid WikiString", "Lifestyle Impact of Full-Blown VR WikiString", "Info for Avoiding Media Manipulations WikiString", etc.
In all collab. aggregation is hot. Good luck!!!!!
-Yuval
Tel Aviv
Community effort (Score:2, Interesting)
And I'm sure he'll make so much money off this free ad.
Sorry I didn't spell check it.
Re:whatever happened to homepages? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:whatever happened to homepages? (Score:2, Interesting)
(plus - tons of links vere really "interesting" like yahoo.com , also it became cliché - usually hypical homepage contained a) index with some animated gif of construction worker b) links section with links everyone knew. c) abou me section usually saying nothing and havin 75% of content dedicated to ones dog/cat d) guestbook with such great messages like "ur site iz good, look at mine at hxxp://... ")
i too used to have links section of my homepage updated, but simply found its not that comfortable to acces ftp, download html edit and upload it back and it results in poor rate of updates.
well, i simply found some time and coded opensource web app ( check it out here: http://roaming-nomad.sourceforge.net/ , my live version is here: http://zweistein.wz.cz/roaming-nomad/index.php ) which is quite oposite of comunity bookmarking - designed to be private, but accessbile to guests
and im simply happy - its not huge or succesfull project, but i have place for my bookmarks and can share them with friends (with exclusion of some links that are locked from anononyms and guests)
Re:whatever happened to homepages? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's called a weblog and a blogroll respectively.
and what are they doing during this? Goofing off with mapping and social communities and webmail and and and and..
I don't know where you get the idea that Google maps and Gmail are part of Google's 'goofing off'. I and many others find them incredibly useful applications that help me find the information I want. (Which is, btw, Google's objective in the first place).
Maybe I'm old, but Netscape stored its bookmarks in an HTML file you could regularly FTP up to your homepage, or something similar. Oh, and back in the day, if you had the time, you could update your homepage a lot. That was kinda like what you kids keep telling me is so "revolutionary"- this whole 'web log' thing. Web logs are not revolutionary because they let you ftp some bookmarks. They are revolutionary since they give people an easy way to express their opinion.
So pardon while I yawn at this service which..um..does what? Let me post my bookmarks? Which I can do already?
del.icio.us (and de.lirio.us) are not about ftping your bookmark file. They let you easily bookmark an interesting site you find, straight from the browser, irrespective of which computer you are on. You could be on the road, in an internet cafe in timbucktoo, without access to any program other than your browser, and still be able to bookmark a site that you can visit later.
Google lost the motivation to innovate, because they didn't have to
Google is highly innovative. And so are the people who try to outsmart Google. Your earlier comment about Google Maps and Gmail seem to indicate that you do not really appreciate the finer points of their innovation. Rest assured that a lack of appreciation does not mean lack of innovation.
Social Bookmarking + Collaborative Ranking (Score:2, Interesting)
CTRL-V (Score:3, Interesting)
Basically, what Steve Mallet did, creator of Del.irio.us, is take the design, the idea, and most of the features of delicious, and copy and paste them with a special "open-source" CTRL-V buttons (he's since changed the site layout and design it would seem - to none at all)
Not unsurprisingly, there has been a flurry of discussion about del.icio.us on the del.icio.us listserv [del.icio.us]. Most of it is fairly constructive and thoughtful. I think what bothers me the most isn't that yet another social bookmarking engine is springing up. Furl and Spurl have been around for a while and there are few minor ones. But each of these generally adds something new to the mix, such as private bookmarks, or longer comments, or better integration with the browser. Del.irio.us doesn't add anything new at all.
Except maybe open-source. Yay.
It reminds me of the goold ole days, when one friend who wanted to run a BBS copied all the files and ANSI from another friend who had been running a BBS for years. Morale of the story? The second, copied, BBS sucked and died because the "creator" didn't have any innovation or creativity in him anyway. That's my call on delirious.
a great idea (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:whatever happened to homepages? (Score:3, Interesting)
historyagent... (Score:3, Interesting)
I like del.icio.us and the like, but wanted to build my own thing and add more types of feeds, have page icons and quick sorting..
It isn't perfect, but works better for me personally than the others did at the time, and I needed it fully searchable.
This is great though.. glad to see an open source version out there.. If this was done about six months ago it would have saved me some coding.
Data makes the difference (Score:2, Interesting)