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Internet Movies Before DVD 418

alfrin writes "Actor Morgan Freeman and Intel are starting a company that will sell movies over the Internet before they are released to DVD. "We're going to bypass what the music industry had to come up with, and that's to get ahead of the whole piracy thing," Freeman told reporters at Sun Valley after making his presentation, which was closed to the press. Wouldn't this just make it easier to pirate movies?"
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Internet Movies Before DVD

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  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:34PM (#12999777)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Great Idea (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mkop ( 714476 ) * on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:37PM (#12999796) Journal
    Now sell it for half the price of a regular DVD and I would probably buy more movies.
  • by ArchAngel21x ( 678202 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:38PM (#12999801)
    There are already services that let you view movies online. If I am going to pay full price for a movie, I want the physical media that I can hold. Considering how cheap Wal-mart DVDs are, they better offer dirt cheap prices on this service if they expect to succeed.
  • by Deep Fried Geekboy ( 807607 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:39PM (#12999811)
    The way ahead is simultaneous release in all formats in all territories. Mark Cuban is doing just this with his 2929 Productions and HDNet Films. The first releases will be a bunch of stuff by Steven Soderbergh.
  • Re:Finally (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Universal Indicator ( 626874 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:39PM (#12999815)
    I am happy enough to use Netflix to pirate movies. At $50 for a month, you can get nearly 50 DVDs sent to you, if you simply copy them immediately when the mail comes and then get them back out to the post office the same day. If retail DVDs are an average of $15 x 50 discs for a month, that is $750 worth of movies in a month. 50 DVDs for the price of three :-) Is there a system like this for music?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @10:50PM (#12999878)
    I for one think it's about time someone figured out that people who use the internet are not all thieves. The music on itunes and other music download sites are STILL available on pirate sites, but people don't want to hassle and worry of viruses and the almighty copyright infrigments. I have bt'd movies and watched them.. but i'd be willing to pay a reasonable price to download a high quality movie even if it was dmr'd.

    the difference between movies and music is.. most of the times i only need to watch a movie once (usually cause it's crap).. and if it's truely worth something then i'll fork over more cash for a dvd, and if i really needed a avi/asf of it.. i could rip the dvd.

    the one thing i hope they account for is.. i don't want to "stream" movies.. cause i don't want to worry about skipping, and having to sit through a thousand commercials (like ign) to see something.
  • by Carbonite ( 183181 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @11:03PM (#12999939)
    I know several people that spend so much time finding movies and burning DVDs that they never have time to actually watch them. Pick a random DVD out of their collection and it's almost a sure bet that they've never seen it. It's really rather sad.
  • Re:Finally (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Stick_Fig ( 740331 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @11:04PM (#12999951) Homepage
    Personally, my beef with TV is that good shows are getting cancelled because the terrible ratings system focuses on the cream of the ratings crop rather than what has the most potential to grow. They're focusing on empty ratings at the cost of long-term success.

    If they could modify the formula so that the shows with potential could get as much playing time as those that are already hits, I would be all for it right now. The crap factor is just terrible on TV right now.
  • by TodPunk ( 843271 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @11:16PM (#13000004) Homepage

    Wouldn't this just make it easier to pirate movies?

    No, not really. You'd have less interested parties in your stolen warez. Of course, this all depends on the price. If the movies are going to be $20 a pop, then yes, it will just continue to get pirated. If they were only $5, most (read: all but the cheap) people would rather own a legit copy than a pirated DVD rip. Think about it this way:

    If you could get an entire album of music for $5 that you had full rights to (i.e. able to play it on any device you owned and able to make a backup as well), it has been proven time and time again that people are more willing to pay for something rather than steal it (which nobody can really argue, downloading albums without permission is illegal, whether moral or not).

    It should be interesting to see what price structure this thing will have, as that's about the only thing that will make it worth anyone's while. Otherwise, it will just aid piracy. As Eisner said in one of his few moments of wisdom, Price and availability are the only real combatants to piracy. The question here is whether it will be a step in the right direction, not whether it will make piracy easier. Piracy is already far from difficult.

  • by mrbcs ( 737902 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @11:29PM (#13000073)
    no doubt.

    I felt kinda like this back in 97 when I first got on the internet. Downloading and printing crap every spare moment... probably took me a year or so to realize that "THE INTERNET WILL STILL BE THERE IN THE MORNING!!" ha ha ha.

    I still have tons of old programs and games I'll never use. I must have about 5 or 6 gigs of windows 95 drivers still too.

  • by Aerog ( 324274 ) on Wednesday July 06, 2005 @11:40PM (#13000117) Homepage
    Sadly enough, I find myself in this situation, to the point that there is a torrent or two running at all times on my machine at home. However, most of the time the download is in lieu of actually watching TV to the point that I almost watch TV shows exclusively on my computer. Lately I've also been burning DVDs of TV shows and distributing them around to friends who haven't managed to see them yet.

    I think some of it is one giant pissing contest as to who can have the most movies, sometimes it's the "I'll get around to watching it later" syndrome, and sometimes it's just to have something to watch that you've never seen before available at all times. Sort of like saying "I've only seen this Simpsons 20 times before, so maybe I'll just finish watching Cowboy Bebop instead". And sometimes, it's because we remember waiting three days to download the first half of Blade in crap Telesync before realizing that the actual movie came out the next day. Even with the slowness, being (most likely) the first people in the community to have a movie from the 'internets' was a pretty big thing back then. Maybe some people just haven't gotten over it.

    But you're right. It could get way out of hand...

    Unless we're talking about Pr0n. Then it will likely never get out of hand.
  • by cbreaker ( 561297 ) on Thursday July 07, 2005 @01:21AM (#13000552) Journal
    I feel the same way - although I guess I never really thought about it.

    Hey, what if I need that program some day? What if they stop Bittorrent and all the other stuff by requiring ISP's to only allow cached web traffic? What if?

    It could happen, and in the current climate of technology things, it seems likely. In the meantime, I'm downloading everything I can get because in the future I might not be able to.

    Of course, I wouldn't bother if this shit wasn't so expensive. $25 for a movie? $60 for a game? $500 for Photoshop? If movies were $5, games were $15, and Photoshop was $30, I wouldn't bother pirating any software or media.

    However, I do buy DVD's occationally, because I know I can get that movie off the disc any time I wanted. I probably won't ever copy it or send it over the Internet, but I *could.*
  • by silentbozo ( 542534 ) on Thursday July 07, 2005 @02:29AM (#13000713) Journal
    Hey, what if I need that program some day?

    I actually have run into this problem, where I know where a utility is, and have downloaded it, only now it doesn't exist/has been replaced, and I can't get it anymore. This is starting to happen a lot with old Mac shareware/freeware (I still have a bunch of 68k and old PPC macs) and I wish I had made archive dumps of the old Info-mac mirrors.
  • What I hopping to see is lots of cheap old good obscure not mainstream movies. Those movies are hard to find in local video stores and expensive to buy. That situation sucks.

    Absolutely on the mark. Problem is, the copyright extensions Disney keep getting will always keep a lot of good material away from the public domain. If you haven't found it yet, try here for a few interesting movies which haven't been locked away. http://www.archive.org/details/movies [archive.org] The biggest section by far is the open-source movies, which shows how much creativity is being stifled by over-restrictive copyright.
  • by Peeteriz ( 821290 ) on Thursday July 07, 2005 @03:35AM (#13000894)
    I am downloading software and movies I don't intend to use in the coming 6 months, but I will likely be interested in it later - because if these P2P crackdowns actually succeed, then it won't be available anymore - so I'd rather have them stored in my pile of CD's where nothing can take them away anymore.
  • by william_w_bush ( 817571 ) on Thursday July 07, 2005 @05:44AM (#13001193)
    put me on that list.

    max out 2 8mb connections and spend tons of time burning the images to dvd, but really i just like keeping track of these things.

    how many good or even decent movies, or songs from 25 years ago just disappeared? how much culture is lost? looking back sure you can get a megahit album from the beatles or bob dylan, but most of the mediocre stuff that just fills the airwaves is lost. Most people would say "good riddance" but we are defined by the crap as well as the art. It will be sad if people 50 years on look back and don't realize along with the decent music we had our britney spears and nsync, because i think that horrible crap actually defines us as a real, breathing culture more than any timeless classics we produce. how much would you know about the victorian age if all you ever heard about was the works of shakespeare and such.

    this seems like such a pessimistic argument, but in school when you heard all those folk songs in music class didn't they convey a greater understanding of the people vs a symphony or the national anthem. losing culture is a crime, less so for the crap, but hey, one persons ricky martin is another persons bach.
  • size matters (Score:3, Interesting)

    by william_w_bush ( 817571 ) on Thursday July 07, 2005 @06:04AM (#13001221)
    also, i've noticed the more hd space i have the more i just have to keep it filled with movies, programs, crap i have stuff i downloaded, failed to sort and never got back to taking up hundreds of gigs at this point.

    my main server has 2tb online right now, the download barrier for me is very low. if i see something online and had any interest in it at some point, click, boop, its queued. unlimited bandwith coupled with near unlimited storage capacity (like 5 dvd burners around) mean you get everything, and if the impulse comes by someday to check it out, meh. its a packrat mentality, but when the cost of acquisition and storage get that low expect everyone to have a few tb media library. the old paradigm of "buy what you really like cause you can't keep that much" is breaking down all over, and we should be happy. seriously, besides a few outmoded economic concerns what's to stop everyone from having either a copy or easy access to every movie made in the last 5 years, or every tv show. on demand is working on this, but it's terribly clunky as an interface, and has too small of a selection.

    seriously, tv distribution is a model that evolved from the limitations of video broadcast. those kinda don't exist anymore, at least not the same "1 vhf channel per show per timeslot" kind of way. media is still profiting off the artificial scarcity, but that won't last forever. the first company that says "hey we sponsor tv shows for online download subscription" once broadband becomes really ubiquitous is going to be huge.

    video killed the radio star, and then the net fired back.

    should be fun to watch.

    the revolution will not be televised... it will be a distributed torrent-cast.

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