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Google to Include iTunes? 232

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the how-would-that-work-exactly dept.
Baher Al Hakim writes "The Street suggests in a recent article that Apple is about to announce a deal with Google to offer Apple's iTunes Music service through Google's site. The rumored deal would pair the nation's leading online music store with its leading search engine." Update: 08/13 22:00 GMT by T : Truncation untruncated.
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  • What the hell? (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by maotx (765127) *
    Baher Al Hakim writes "The Street suggests in a recent article that Apple is about to announce a deal with Google, to a

    To a what? To award? To a degree? I don't know which is worse: duped stories or incomplete stories with no links. I know, the rest of the story is to be supplied in the dupe!

    What has the editors of /. come to when they can't even post a complete story?
    Hey OSTG! I'll be a Slashdot editor! I wouldn't mind posting news worthy stories in my spare time. Certainly better than what we
    • by ikewillis (586793) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:44PM (#13312950) Homepage
      http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/tech/hardware/10 237939.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA [thestreet.com]

      Shares of Apple Computer (AAPL:Nasdaq - commentary - research) set an all-time high on Friday following a disappointing report from Dell (DELL:Nasdaq - commentary - research) and amid rumors about a major new partnership.

      According to market chatter, Apple is set to announce a deal with Google (GOOG:Nasdaq - commentary - research) calling for Google to offer Apple's iTunes music store through its own site. The rumored deal would pair the nation's leading online music store with its leading search engine.

      There's "speculation of an iTunes launch," says Paul Foster, an options strategist at Theflyonthewall.com. "Google is going to offer iTunes somehow on their platform," according to the rumor, he says.

      Apple spokesman Steve Dowling said the company doesn't comment on "rumors and speculation." A Google representative did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

      Meanwhile, Apple's shares might well have benefited from Dell's pain. The computer giant missed Wall Street's revenue targets for its just-completed quarter by $300 million and cautioned analysts that they needed to bring down their revenue targets for its current quarter.

      Dell's stumble is in contrast to Apple, which has seen its computer sales and share in the PC market surge in recent quarters.

      "Some investors seem be rotating out of Dell into Apple," says Foster. "Investors kind of have the attitude that Dell's weakness is Apple's strength."

      Shares of Apple closed regular trading up $2.10, or 4.8%, on Friday to $46.10. The company's shares traded up as much as $2.22, or 5%, intraday. Volume totaled nearly 33 million shares, well above its three-month norm of 18.6 million shares.
    • MOD PARENT UP (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:59PM (#13313050)
      Yes, once again its another editor fuckup - why is everyone still so surprised that this happens? The 'editors' barely pay lip service to their title and I doubt very much that they read the comments either. At face value there is no real passion from the creators of the site - its just the same old shit day after day.

      To explain further, Slashdot exists for one purpose: to make money for parent company OSDN. There is nothing wrong with that in itself but don't expect a high quality site the way its currently run. The Slashdot business model (if you can call it that) seems to be to provoke reaction from the loyal crowd of slashbots that frequent the site. Inflammatory / trollish stories (e.g here [slashdot.org]) and dupes cause the page hits (and therefore ad revenue) to go through the roof.

      As a result, most of the comments I see on the stories are neither insightful, interesting or informative. There seems to be no real balanced discussion - something I feel is a product of the moderation system which rewards those who conform to the slashbot mindset and censors everything else. This democratic method of editing the comments is terrible - especially where technical issues are concerned, as a lot of nonsense is modded up by people who don't know otherwise.

      You are probably wondering why I read Slashdot. Partly morbid curiosity and partly to laugh at both the flame wars which invevitably break out and the well crafted trolls.

      To conclude, Slashdot is neither really "News for Nerds" nor is it "Stuff that matters". If you want the former, go to somewhere like arstechnica [arstechnica.com] or kuroshin [kuro5hin.org] and if you want actual stuff that matters, the BBC are hard to beat. [bbc.co.uk]
      • You should be thankful that this site isn't like the forums at GameFAQs.com. While the moderation system here isn't perfect, at least it doesn't take censorship to the GameFAQs forums extreme. At least here you can view every post that has been made, unlike at GameFAQs, where any post that the moderators dislike is permanently removed.

        I'd take the semi-democratic method of moderation used here over the dictatorial, elitist system used at a place like GameFAQs any day.

        While your post may be moderated down, a
      • You might find it interesting that Slashdot, along with an information sciences grad student at the University of Michigan, conducted a poll of UMich slashdot readers. The poll appeared at the top of the slashdot front page to those viewing from a "umich.edu" subnet a few months ago. I forget the specifics, but it asked a bunch of questions like "Do you think the moderation system affects the content of comments?" and implied that the slashdot editors were seriously considering the final data.

        Who knows if
    • Great (Score:3, Funny)

      by Elranzer (851411)
      Wonderful. Just what Slashdot needs: an article for both the Google and Apple fanboys to rant about...
  • Editors? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by CyborgWarrior (633205) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:42PM (#13312931) Homepage
    Uhhhhhhhhh. Where's the rest of the story? lol
  • by espenfjo (690929) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:42PM (#13312932)
    Reports from all over the street says that the well known submitt button is on the loose.
  • first (Score:5, Funny)

    by way2trivial (601132) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:43PM (#13312936) Homepage Journal
    po
  • by Space cowboy (13680) * on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:43PM (#13312940) Journal
    I noticed this on Friday, when the stock jumped by 5% :-) A couple of links that *don't* go to the submitters blog...



    For some reason, it *really* annoys me when people link to their own blog instead of the link to the story. At the very least it ought to be obvious that it's a personal link rather than doing it on the sly.

    Simon
    • For some reason, it *really* annoys me when people link to their own blog instead of the link to the story.

      If they're adding information or analysis to the linked article, that's of value and OK in my book.

      At the very least it ought to be obvious that it's a personal link rather than doing it on the sly.

      Quite so.
    • Sorry, don't understand your outrage. Why shouldn't your username link back to your blog or homepage?

      I assume that more links are forthcoming in the full post (you did notice it was truncated, right?).

      Now if the links in the yet unseen story are all back to his personal or commersial site, then, well, you might have a reason to be upset.
      • The outrage is because the submitter is including a link to a "story" wich is merely his own blog page commenting on someone else's story, assumedly to generate traffic to their own site. While sometimes useful (e.g., when ESR offers a bounty on Linux code in UNIX) it's usually just some fool trying to up his readership. Slashdotters hate self-linkers for the same reason they hate karma whores.
        • Uh, no he's not. The link to the story takes you to The Street, not to this guys blog. His username links to his blog, as it should. I don't see the problem. He's not self-linking here.
        • by igbrown (79452) <spamNO@SPAMhccp.org> on Saturday August 13, 2005 @07:44PM (#13313456) Homepage Journal
          Sorry. I think you are not paying attention to what's going on here.

          1) The submitter of the story included a link to an article on TheStreet.com.

          2) The story was truncated by a malformed HTML.

          3) The only link visible on the truncated story was the attribution link for the submitter.

          4) The submitter's link on his ID, like many of us, points to a homepage or blog.

          5) The grandparent of this post chastised the submitter (mistakenly, IMO) for astroturfing or whatever, based on the attribution link, without seeing the submitted story, which contained a link to thestreet.com.

          6) The submitters blog, displays the most recent post to the blog, which happened to be the same post he was trying to make to Slashdot.

          7) Please pay attention next time.

    • I would care more about that if the summaries had better links in general. Half the time I don't know which inline-highlighted-word is the story and which is the background.

      Hint to future article submitters: use at least one, and preferably more, of the words in the title as links in the summary to the article. If you don't have any that conveniently do that, consider changing the submission title to something more appropriate. If your summary skills are good, chances are there is at least one sentence f
  • by c0l0 (826165) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:43PM (#13312944) Homepage
    NO CARRIER
  • by reality-bytes (119275) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:44PM (#13312949) Homepage
    In an attempt to make up for the dupes, Slashdot are now providing half and article at a time.

    Baher Al Hakim writes "The Street suggests in a recent article that Apple is about to announce a deal with Google, to a ,


    No doubt it will be edited but it was amusing while it lasted. ;)
    • by MustardMan (52102) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:56PM (#13313031)
      In recent tiimes, the quality of articles here has gone down. You could even say slashdot has jumped the
    • At least when we get the dupe, then we'll have one complete article!
  • asdf (Score:5, Funny)

    by stevejsmith (614145) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:44PM (#13312951) Homepage
    Even Madlibs gives you the part of speech.
  • Huh... (Score:5, Funny)

    by creimer (824291) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:44PM (#13312952) Homepage
    Is it me? Or are the aricle summaries is getting
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Whoo, those lawyers are fast. Part of the article was removed moments after it was posted.
  • Apple! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Luigi30 (656867) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:45PM (#13312959)
    Did Apple file a lawsuit mid-submission or something?
  • CmdrTaco (Score:5, Funny)

    by michelcultivo (524114) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:46PM (#13312964) Homepage Journal
    "What the hell I'm doing here."
  • Complete blurb (Score:5, Informative)

    by JemVai777 (411658) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:46PM (#13312965)
    http://www.technoogle.com/?p=114 [technoogle.com]

    Wall Street suggests in a recent Article that Apple is about to announce a deal with Google, to offer Apple's iTunes Music service through its site.

    That's MAJOR news indeed.

    If it turns out to be right, it would be a great deal for both sides, as Apple will gain a wider audience for its music service iTunes through the enormous base of Google visitors, and Google too will at last have a music service to offer, like Yahoo did a while ago.
    No need for Google to start its own Music Service, they'll have the best Music Service by their side, what could be better than that.

    This is very exciting cooperation between two of the biggest and most influential companies in the Tech World, and it has never crossed my mind, until now.

    Let's wait and see.
    • Re:Complete blurb (Score:3, Interesting)

      Actually this is greatly exaggerated. The MOST google will show is a link straight to iTunes at the google frontpage. That's it. Just a link!

      Web Images Groups News Froogle Local

      Ready?.... It'll have probably a Music link. If it has anymore than that, people wouldn't make it a frontpage.

      • Re:Complete blurb (Score:5, Interesting)

        by quanticle (843097) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @06:51PM (#13313254) Homepage

        The nice thing will be that you'll be able to search iTunes directly from Google. For example, if I'm looking for Bob Dylan stuff, and I do a Google search, I could get links to Bob Dylan songs on iTunes. Its reasonable for Google search to diversify into multimedia.

        • Not everyone is hyped about the iTunes service. Therefore I hope Google will make it possible for users to include iTunes hits. Otherwise this deal results in instant degraded search results for a lot of users (those not interested in itunes).

          Personally I despise the service for one major reason. The quality of the purchased sound SUCKS! To be fair and giving Apple *some* credit, the packaging (the application with it's simple user interface and it's preview functionality) is nice. However the wares being s
        • Oh I get it. They're tying the iTunes database into AdSense.

          Who's paying whom?
  • I think (Score:3, Funny)

    by Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:46PM (#13312969)
    Google including iTunes would be a great move, especially considering what they've done with Google Video. They could m
  • the article was slashdotted?
  • Hmmmm (Score:2, Redundant)

    by hendridm (302246) *
    I don't get it. Do the eds not use the preview feature, and if not, do they not at least check the home page once in awhile? I've given them the benefit of doubt for quite some time, but come on... This one seems a little obvious.

    Doesn't it seem like the quality of posts have gotten worse since they added the plum where you can see articles in the Mysterious Future and report bad ones??
  • by Winckle (870180) <mark@@@winckle...co...uk> on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:49PM (#13312983) Homepage
    That's good, right?
  • by ErikRed1488 (193622) <erikdred1488@netscape.net> on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:49PM (#13312987) Homepage Journal
    I blame this article on the freeloaders. If you subscribed to /., you could have seen this "article" earlier and submitted the error to the mods. I'm sure they would have corrected it. Just like they catch the dupes. Or something.
    • I personally submitted the error report.

      I've personally mailed Hemos about things like this.

      Hate to say it, but nobody's wearing the Daddypants around here...

      --Dan
  • Heh (Score:5, Funny)

    by NanoGator (522640) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @05:53PM (#13313007) Homepage Journal
    "Baher Al Hakim writes "The Street suggests in a recent article that Apple is about to announce a deal with Google, to a"

    Wow! The submitter of the story stopped at the same place all the commentors would have stopped at.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Don't just leave us hanging!!!!
  • The bottom quote kinda fits; "If at first you don't succeed, redefine success." Or in this case, redefine editor.
  • Wall Street != TheStreet.com AFAICT.
  • 99% of the desktop users have access to Itunes already. And even desktop linux users can run it via crossover. There has to be more to this story then just an online version of itunes.
  • by DaphneDiane (72889) <tg6xin001@sneakemail.com> on Saturday August 13, 2005 @06:46PM (#13313232)
    One of the things I could see google offer is the ability to search for songs by lyrics and additional meta data. I know a lot of times when I purchase music via itunes and I don't know the actual name of the song the first thing I do is search for "lyrics" followed by the phrase from the song.
  • Impressive (Score:3, Insightful)

    by EvilMonkeySlayer (826044) on Saturday August 13, 2005 @07:18PM (#13313334) Journal
    If I were Microsoft or one of the companies who use MS in some form (for example audio format like WMA), then i'd probably be shitting (pardon my french) bricks.

    Pairing up the worlds most popular music service with the worlds most popular search engine is definitely a clever move by both parties, it can only serve to improve their customer bases. A symbiotic relationship if you will.
  • Gapple (Score:2, Redundant)

    by Doc Ruby (173196)
    And marry the two best-liked/recognized brands [brandchannel.com] in the world. Jobs is THE MAN. And the guys running Google's brand strategy for Page and Brin are pretty sharp, too.
  • Well, I got a screenshot/mockup [accettura.com] for anyone curious I think there's a fair chance this is accurate.
  • by tyagiUK (625047) on Sunday August 14, 2005 @01:36AM (#13314812) Homepage
    Me: "That tune that goes 'tum te tum badda badda tum tum"
    Google (I'm feeling lucky): "Buy 'Pink Floyd: The Wall' from iTunes Music Store Now!"
  • by Quixote (154172) * on Sunday August 14, 2005 @01:58AM (#13314884) Homepage Journal
    ARTHUR: There! Look!
    LAUNCELOT: What does it say?
    GALAHAD: What language is that?
    ARTHUR: Brother Maynard! You are a scholar.
    MAYNARD: It's Aramaic!
    GALAHAD: Of course! Joseph of Arimathea!
    LAUNCELOT: 'Course!
    ARTHUR: What does it say?
    MAYNARD: It reads, 'Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Arimathea. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of aaarrrrggh'.
    ARTHUR: What?
    MAYNARD: '...The Castle of aaarrrrggh'.
    BEDEVERE: What is that?
    MAYNARD: He must have died while carving it.
    LAUNCELOT: Oh, come on!
    MAYNARD: Well, that's what it says.
    ARTHUR: Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve 'aarrggh'. He'd just say it!
    MAYNARD: Well, that's what's carved in the rock!
    GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating.
    • by jfengel (409917)
      Interesting. Without dates on the pages I can't tell how long the iTunes/Google Ad-words deal has been in effect. Could that be the news? Or has it been around for a while?

      This implication of TheStreet.com is that there may be something even tighter, perhaps along the lines of "Look up a song, receive a link to iTunes at the top of the page (rather than in the adwords ads)". Sort of like Google's other special features (offering business info, almanac, calculator, etc. for certain queries.)

      If so that wo
  • Yahoo Audio Search [yahoo.com] already links to iTunes and various other services (which also gives Yahoo a convenient opportunity to show that Yahoo! Music Unlimited only charges $0.79 per track).
  • The following are my favorite ways a Google/Apple partnership could be implemented:
    - Lyric search with links to iTMS for purchase
    - AdWords [google.com] like contextual ads so when you are searching for Michael Jackson accquital news, you get links to buy "Thriller".
    - Integrated Gmail recommendation system to suggest music to friends
    - maps.iTunes.Google.com where you could find concerts in your area or by band and buy them only, complete with driving directions
    - satellite version of the above
    - hybrid maps/satellite versi
  • Is now at the highest ever, that's right it's higher than 1999 and 2000, it is higher than the peaks of the tech mania. Anyone think it might be overvalued hmmm? Naaah, go buy some. lol

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