TB-303 Give-Aways from Propellerheads and d-lusion 150
slashflood writes "Good news for those of you who are into music synthesizers: Propellerheads has opened its Rebirth Museum and gives away the 'revolutionary' software simulation of the classic Roland TB-303. Interestingly, that happened just a day after the small German company d-lusion released another 'legendary' TB-303 simulator called Rubberduck as a free give-away."
Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:3, Interesting)
the mod aspect of rebirth is probably the best (and only) good use of skinning that I've encountered over the years (or have a recollection of now) - unlike most other skinnable software that are only eyecandy and add nothing to the software - the "skins" rebirth
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:4, Funny)
There just ain't nothing like the sound of a MOS Technologies SID.
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:2)
I made SID tunes back in the olden tymes and for people to really appreciate them they had to have the same C64 I did to match the chips.
BTW as a point of trivia, Ensoniq engineered those chips. Probably one of the greatest synth chips ever.
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:2)
And for those who are a little more Atari leaning, there's also YMVST [preromanbritain.com], which recreates those lovely ST sounds.. and it's free! Looks just like MusicMon2, too
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:1)
I wish they would release a USB HardSID, I would buy it in a second.
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:1)
Last I heard, it's back in a pre-order phase, after doing a round of orders (check the forums for some really cool mods to the design). Apparently they're having problems tracking down some of the parts, but they post instructions and parts-needed for everything (including USB interface, IIRC), if you wanted to build your own. (the orders were either for kits, or pre-builts, I don't recall which.)
I just went to the link, and
Re:Shitty Techno HOOOOOOOO (Score:1)
Come to think of it,
track down the parts yourself, $150
fashion your own hardwood case using modifed podium from lecture hall,
having a chest height 303 on wheels... priceless
when you can't finish reading the article after skipping out to supper, you can also make an attempt at a witty retort to your own contribution to the discussion (and wonder... in a discussion about software 303s, why would a DIY 303 *REALLY* not respond...) be gentle
The pheads server melt, now they use torrents... (Score:5, Informative)
PC iso torrent:
http://81.92.66.41/torrents/rebirth_iso_installat
mac iso torrent:
http://81.92.66.41/torrents/ReBirth%20RB-338%202.
gentelmen: start your squelchings
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:2)
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:2)
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:2)
PS: I am connectable and all. Downloading other torrents works just fine.
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:2)
Download in 61 hours...
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:1)
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:1)
Re:The pheads server melt, now they use torrents.. (Score:2)
Greatest user feedback comments ever! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Greatest user feedback comments ever! (Score:5, Interesting)
Rubberduck was freaky underground software, i used it from versions on that looked like Windows3.1. It was the software to produce the cheapest and best sounding bass; as a bedroom producer you could finally laugh about the people that rent studios or spend huge money on gear and think that is half of the music already done. It started just then.
Today even GNU stuff looks polished. I think this is boring. I want announcements like "KDE new release with bomb shit doorbending menus comin atcha like cleopatra" or "new version of gnumeric -- coded on bad LSD" or whatever
Re:Greatest user feedback comments ever! (Score:2)
Yeah, spreadsheet software isn't exactly up there on the list of things you'd want to work on while "on bad LSD". No shit....
Spreadsheets and desktop software aren't "the bomb shit". They're dull-assed financial and desktop software that corporate types in suits would use.
Re:Greatest user feedback comments ever! (Score:2, Funny)
WOOOOOOHOOO! Music stuff on /.! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:WOOOOOOHOOO! Music stuff on /.! (Score:5, Informative)
http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
It's pretty good.
Anyways, I'll be sure to pick this one up.
Re:WOOOOOOHOOO! Music stuff on /.! (Score:2, Interesting)
/. Dedicated Music Section (Score:1)
Its just a shame they have a Music section http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=141 [slashdot.org] - its just filled with DRM, RIAA and various iPod crap. I guess its 'music'....
I'd like to see more stuff like the Coward said above! Yeah, and not just Mac apps like damn GarageBand! (tho what i've used of it does seem good)
Great idea
DugUK
TB-303/MC-202 (Score:2, Offtopic)
Propellerhead did not remove copy protection (Score:5, Informative)
Discount upgrade to Reason 3.0 for ReBirth owners (Score:4, Informative)
If you only want Reason, it's probably cheaper to search out an end-of-line ReBirth in your local music shop and then upgrade.
Re:Discount upgrade to Reason 3.0 for ReBirth owne (Score:2)
Steinberg subjected me to an utter customer service nightmare for over a year before I gave up. Their gre
Correction (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Correction (Score:2)
It was free, it ran on Linux and its interface was WAY more usable that ReBirth's one.
But Propellerhead threatened to SUE the guy because the interface looked like theirs - both of the interfaces being a IMAGE OF THE 303 !
Fsck Propellerhead and their sh*tty software.
Re:Correction (Score:2)
Re:Correction (Score:2)
If you're looking for open-source audio, MIDI and sound software, you should take a look at this site [sourceforge.net] (jack applications) and also this one [linux-sound.org].
ReBirth is awesome... Enjoy! (Score:5, Informative)
It also has a simple, yet effective, sequencer for all the synthesizers, a few effects (distortion, delay, compression), and a nice Pattern Controlled Filter. In short, everything you need for swooping, hypnotic, techno tracks, or classic Freestyle Electro!
The first time I used it I was overwhelmed by the memories of DJ'ing back in the 80s.
Propellerheads, thanx for the memory trip, and the very cool software!!
-dZ.
Re:ReBirth is awesome... Enjoy! (Score:2)
Re:ReBirth is awesome... Enjoy! (Score:1)
-dZ.
Re:ReBirth is awesome... Enjoy! (Score:2)
Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2, Insightful)
-dZ.
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:1)
TB-303 == Ubiquitous Sound of All Time (Score:2)
Isn't there a word for emulating yourself?
Re:TB-303 == Ubiquitous Sound of All Time (Score:1)
Re:TB-303 == Ubiquitous Sound of All Time (Score:1)
Good Analogy!!! (Score:2)
Even the 303 has the possibility. But let's face it, the 303's strength is that resonating filter. It's the filter!
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:4, Insightful)
Where as the 303 sound has totally stagnated. The 303 was remarkable because it was this cheap little synth that cats could buy for next to nothing and create sounds that the makers of the 303 never intended. It was part of the whole philosophy of black urban youth taking this discarded technology and turning into something remarkable, a kind of metaphor for discarded Urban areas like Detroit and Chicago that spawned Techno and House music respectivly.
But now the 303 isn't a cheap synth for underground producers... it is an expensive synth for collectors that creates a sound that stopped being innovative ten years ago. It is not the instrument that the Juan Atkins or Derek May of the 21st century is going to use, it is for pretensious wankers... it is like collecting a Stratovarius.
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yes, but there is musical innovation happening with guitars. People are constantly doing new things with guitars.
Where as the 303 sound has totally stagnated.
The 303 is totally capable of making sounds other than the cliched "303 sound"; indeed I suspect that the 303 designers never expected users to turn the resonance up quite so high, to use the upper pitch range so much, to make those frequency sweeps, etc.
Remember the "TB" stands for "The Bass": they expected it to be used as a stand-in for a bass playe
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:5, Insightful)
I've been fooled from time to time, and I've had exactly that sort of 'you can tell it's real' comment from people who know I own the real thing, about tracks I've used purely ReBirth on.
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:1)
Well, if as a 303 owner you were fooled by Rebirth, be prepared to drop your jaw as you hear Audiorealism Bassline [audiorealism.se]
It's taken a long time, but this is finally one that steals Rebirth's crown and gets you the real 303 guts (no I'm not related to the author)
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2)
For example I once did a track with a couple of mates where we were using a TR909, a MIDId TR808, two TB303s (one of which was also driving an SH101 via its CV outputs) plus some pad sounds from a couple of Korg Wavestations and a Juno 106.
The track actually consisted of several repeating patterns (of different lengths) all overlaid with each other
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2)
Re:Only The REAL Thing Counts... (Score:2)
Please... no software simulation touches the real Roland TB-303.
Yeah, the virtual buttons on software just don't stick like the real thing. It used to take me a long time to program a patch on my old TB-303 because it would think I'd pressed a note twice when I hadn't. That and I needed to use an adapter to connect it to my MIDI set-up. The TB-303 is old and overrated, and can do with updating, in my opinion.
Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut down (Score:4, Insightful)
Not that it isn't a good thing propellerheads is doing by giving it away for free, but shutting down open source projects (this was even mentioned on slash) is a bad thing for everyone in the long run. How about releasing your source propellerheads? Re-birth is about as old as Quake3, if Id can do it, so can you.
Anyways, end rant.
Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d (Score:2, Informative)
Given that they were copying the TB-303 808 and 909 interfaces I dont see how they could own the concept of putting them on a computer screen but there you go, like they say in TFA:
"The spirit of sharing was a vital part of the ReBirth Community. People who shared ideas, who offered their expertise, and wh
Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d (Score:2)
Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wasn't there an open source 808 emulator shut d (Score:3, Informative)
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and the link: (Score:2)
Great MInds.. (Score:1)
So, great minds do think alike.
RubberDuck still have bundled spyware? (Score:1)
Does it still come with this?
Re:RubberDuck still have bundled spyware? (Score:5, Informative)
There has never been spyware in Rubberduck and the "ad technology" has been removed in the free download version.
time to get out your magnifying glasses (Score:2, Insightful)
Still the program was quite revolutionary back in the day...
x0xb0x kit synthesizer (Score:5, Informative)
Rebirth - Good for it's time...No longer (Score:1)
Re:Rebirth - Good for it's time...No longer (Score:2)
Reborn for Linux (Score:1, Interesting)
The developers had to stop distributing it after the Propellerheads sued them.
It was free for download, but the source was never released.
I wonder if the Propellerheads would let them distribute it now?
Random Data Bandwidth Waste (Score:5, Interesting)
"The app installer itself is only 16 MB, ReBirth uses a copy protection scheme which involves a 128 MB data file on the CD. It's actually a nonsense file that contains just random data, but ReBirth won't boot without it. The rest of the CD isn't really necessary, but includes a Mac partition (which has roughly the same files including another instance of the 128 MB data file), and lastly there are 3 audio tracks that showcase ReBirth if you put it in a CD player."
Did they release any CDs? (Score:2)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:1)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:2)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:1)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:2)
Re:Did they release any CDs? (Score:2)
Everybody Needs a 303... (Score:1)
Demo Songs (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Demo Songs (Score:1)
And to you sir I say... (Score:2, Funny)
Real one for sale (Score:1, Offtopic)
in case someone want a real, physical one. I am selling mine on e-bay right now:
7348497421
Sorry if this looks like a shameless attempt to push my auction, in fact it is.
But maybe someone is interested...
cheers,
Marcus
Other 303 Emulations (Score:2)
It's not free, but I wanted to toss out AudioRealism Bassline [audiorealism.se] as another great 303 emulation, which I generally prefer to Rebirth -- it has a larger interface, and more importantly it's a standard VST so it integrates easily with whatever production/DAW software you happen to be using (it sounds great too).
I'm still pretty interested in Rebirth for the 808/909 emulations, though; I haven't seen any other program that does as good a job reproducing the tweakability of those drum boxes.
Also am way excited
Re:Simulation? (Score:2, Interesting)
Rebirth itself has been released for free. Just register at the museum site and then go to downloads. There's a torrent, ffs, use that.
WRONG! mod perant down. (Score:4, Informative)
the meaning of the announcemnt is that propellerheads have discontinued rebirth developemnt sales and support, and now are giving it for free.
the refill for reason is another differant thing entirly.. and it's not really free at all.. it's free if you paid 400$ for reason and registered..
Re:WRONG! mod perant down. (Score:1)
Re:Any one try downloading the torrent yet? (Score:1)
Re:Any one try downloading the torrent yet? (Score:1)
Not really saving themselves any bandwidth are they
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:5, Interesting)
Thats a good point.
(and the mac version is MacOS9)
"but is slashdot going to put every piece of Windows-only closed source freeware on the front page?"
rebirth in the electronic music scene is somewhat akeen to Doom in the gaming scene - this perticular software had an enormous effect both from a user interface and technological aspect on the shape of the computer virtual instrument sceene that developped.
"In theory, this kind of software could enable a hundred Vince Clarkes - in practice I don't see any. Any suggestions?"
develop ReClark. that might work.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:2)
Like FL Studio?
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:1)
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:4, Funny)
Go to hell you elitist twat.
Should we ban paintbrushes because someone other than Picasso or Michelangelo might pick one up and paint something that offends your exquisitely developed taste. How about pens? Should we get rid of those too, just in case someone draws something you don't like? While we're getting rid of the instruments, you probably should go to guitar center and burn the cheap guitars and keyboards....why, any idiot with fingers might be tempted to pick one up and learn to hammer out something that isn't...80's pop???
Hey, about we lock up the computers too so brainless numbskulls can't engage in self-congratulatory forum masturbation.
Hand over the keyboard, douche.
Thanks.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:2)
It doesn't seem very logical to call an 80s music fan an "elitist" with "exquisitely developed taste". It might be more accurate to say a nostalgist with an ossified musical taste.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:2)
oh wait. I just called us geeks. Shoot me now.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:1)
Yes, it's not very logical. That's because I was making fun of you.
Kissy kissy.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:1)
Hey, how about you blow me?
Thanks.
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:3, Insightful)
Vince Clarke is who he is because he's Vince Clarke, not because he has the equipment. My friend Jabwai [myspace.com] makes music using Reason. He is signed by a few techno-oriented labels and performs regularly here in Dallas. Maybe you should give his stuff a listen and decide if he's "Vince Clarke-enabled."
Re:Is it too much to ask - (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Reason = death of the Akai sampler (Score:2)
For the price of an MPC3000, I can get the same software, Apogee conversion, build a new PC, and buy any set of control surfaces I feel like.
Granted, I do like the immediacy of physical samplers, but at the same time..it's really hard for me to justify the extra cost; especially for one of the larger units
Re:Reason = death of the Akai sampler (Score:2)
But if you're touring, there's the unfortunate two-part trade-off of having 1) less-roadworthy components, and 2) many more seperate pieces to keep track of. Everything is a compromise in one way or another.
You mentioned latency in the Akai MPC1000. Are you talking about the pads? I've never heard anyone complain about delays with those... or any other aspect, for that m
Re:Reason = death of the Akai sampler (Score:2)
Your first point is well taken, really nothing to say there, everything really is a compromise.
The original poster mentioned Akai samplers v Reason, and mentioned the a/d and d/a, as well as latency, being so much better; I was really just calling bullshit on that. The great thing about computer software obviously is that you can almost always upgrade your hardware pretty easily (on supported platforms). I've never heard of lat