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Microsoft's Nightmare Scenario 362

unityxxx wrote to mention a News.com article about Microsoft's nightmare scenario - the Web as the next platform. From the article: "The nightmare is inching closer to reality and Microsoft execs are apparently paying attention to the decade-old alert. As part of a management shuffle, Microsoft said Tuesday it would make hosted services a more strategic part of the company and fold its MSN Web portal business into its platform product development group, where Windows is developed. Another memo, called 'Google--The Winner Takes All (And Not Just Search),' is also making the rounds. This internal memo, written in 2005, argues that Google threatens Microsoft and the company's crown jewel, Windows."
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Microsoft's Nightmare Scenario

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  • by Otter ( 3800 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:01PM (#13630163) Journal
    Easy life over there at news.com -- pull up old articles from 1996, replace "Netscape" with "Google", "Marc Andreesen" with "Larry Page" and "bring your dog to work" with "20% of employees time working on their own projects". The "nightmare scenario" line in the headline, both here and there, even comes out of a Microsoft memo from 1995.
  • by Skadet ( 528657 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:03PM (#13630178) Homepage
    The web is an infrastructure that lets our individual machines communicate with one another. I very much doubt the web will be a viable platform anytime soon, for bandwidth reasons if nothing else.

    I think about how I use programs like photoshop and flashmx when i'm developing web sites. There's no way those huge-ass programs are going to be hosted and downloaded/run on demand. On the other hand, I need connectivity to upload my work to the web and test/publish it. The internet facilitates a good deal of things we do, but there's no way it could be a platform anytime in my lifetime.

    It's like the relationship vehicles and highways have. Everyone owns their own vehicle, and they're responsible for the good running condition of that vehicle, and the highway facilitates the usefulness of that vehicle.
  • by Proc6 ( 518858 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:04PM (#13630196)
    Yeah that's what I want, all my applications to be server side web-based. That way I can't stop them when they "call home" and report back things like what I'm searching for on the net, the names of the files I'm opening. And I can't stop them from a hacker switching out a DLL on the server side suddenly corrupting or infecting my data. AV and firewalls become useless at that point, and the way modern apps try agressively to monitor what you do and call home, I'm not comfortable with losing the ability to control them.
  • by team99parody ( 880782 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:12PM (#13630286) Homepage
    The article seems to blame the problem on bad strategy rather than bad execution: Microsoft, however, didn't heed the warning. Instead, it embarked on a strategy--championed by Jim Allchin, who today heads up development of the next version of Windows--that was fanatically focused on the operating system.

    However it overlooks the point that Microsoft has extreme execution problems. Consider that even in the operating system "that was fanatically focused on" Microsoft lags Linux

    • Linux did Itanium first.
    • Linus did Paladium first.
    • Linux did NUMA first.
    • Linux did modern security policies(SELinux) before Vista Server.

    Microsoft's real problem is that with a stagnant company they can't motivate their employees; so all the good ones leave for places like Google. Back when MSFT stock was doubling every few months, it was quite reasonable and fun for a microsoftie to work 18 hours and see his 1 million dollar option package multiply to 2 million and on to 10 million. Now, however, Balmer yells at his developers only to have them check their underwater options from Jan 2000 and realize it's just not worth it.

    Could microsoft change? Yes, by sharing some of the billions of profits they make with their employees. But will they? Nope - they're busy saving that money for their shareholders.

    If you're a decent engineer, there's no reason to work for microsoft anymore. You're far better off quitting, competing with them, and letting them buy you back. That's the only way to get your fair share of the billions that microsoft's been hording over the past few years.

    And that is the problem with Microsoft today.

  • by slavemowgli ( 585321 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:17PM (#13630346) Homepage
    Why? As you say, much of the world doesn't have access to gas, water, electricity, telephone and all that, but doesn't that actually show that not all the world has to have access to something in order for it to be the next "big thing", so to speak?

    Of course, it would be good if all the world did have access to these things, but even though it's not the case, we not only do but in fact have become so dependent on these things that we can hardly imagine a life without them. It doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that broadband Internet access, and applications built on top of it (not applications as in "computer programs", but applications in a more general sense), will soon become... well, not quite ubiquitious, of course, as certain groups will probably not have an interest in these things (my grandmother, for example, while being quite fascinated by computers and the Internet has categorically said that she won't ever get one), but widespread enough that they will reach the same level of fundamentality (I hope that's a word *s*) that electricity, water etc. do.

    But to stay on-topic a bit, I think that M$ is, above all, showing one thing here: namely, that they still don't understand that not everything is "all-or-nothing" and that it's perfectly possible to coexist and compete without every player but one going bankrupt or being bought after a couple of years. It's understandable that they don't understand, of course, given their history (they were effectively granted a monopoly by IBM, and have since tried to maintain that monopoly at all costs and to also expand it into other markets), but it ain't true: it *is* possible to coexist.

    I wonder if they'll ever understand that.
  • by Darth_Burrito ( 227272 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:17PM (#13630349)
    good news for Microsoft is that it doesn't have to...it just has to acquire a company that can

    If you assume this innovation will disrupt MS's core business, then it is a little more complicated. It not only has to acquire a company that can, but it has to let that company cannibalize MS's existing business. Historically, most market leaders have a hard time doing this.
  • Nothing new here. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by JVert ( 578547 ) <corganbilly@hotmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:20PM (#13630386) Journal
    As soon as they gained victory over netscape their next plan of attack was to minimise the potential damage by web services. Their only solution was to break the standards so developers would have to choose sides or do mad trying to please both. Since they controlled the browser market anyone who chose standards over MS would obviously lose. If they created a web service for MS then there was no problem. MS is ready for thin clients, embeded devices, they would be on top of the next revolution. You can check your mail and file your taxes on your fridge, powerd by Microsoft.

    So it breaks down into a browser war again. He who controls the viewer controls the world.
  • nightmare for us too (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:23PM (#13630424)
    Microsoft's nightmare scenario - the Web as the next platform.

    Sounds pretty damn scary to me, too.

    • Software that depends on a working internet connection
    • Service outages completely out of your control
    • Platform issues all over again (Mac vs Linux vs Windows 2k vs Windows XP, Firefox vs Explorer vs Opera, JVM issues, etc.)
    • No customer-controlled version control (want to stay on Powerpoint 2007 Service Pack 1 because SP2 breaks your slides? Too bad! Not upgrading your app because in the next 24 hours you have a million dollar client proposal? Sorry, your app service provider wants to silently roll out a "bugfix" that causes problems for you)
    • Having to license software yearly, or go through byzantine activation procedures (Quark XPress 6.0 activation, anyone?)

    ...to name a few problems individuals and corporations will have.

    Why does everyone try to make the web more than what it is- an interactive information platform? Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:24PM (#13630431)
    Microsoft is boring. When's the last time microsoft produced a cool product that captured your imagination? What is vista? why should I care? office 12 ? Menus are now "ribbons" .. woo hoo
    I can't wait to install that baby and stay up all night playing with it and then show it to all my friends and family.

    When I read "google" in a headline, I pay more attention...I am thinking "what cool thing has google com up with now?" google earth, cool , installed it, showed it to my elderly parents and they were impressed; Adwords,Adsense - cool how can I earn some extra bucks playing with this.
    google wifi? google tv? sounds interesting. Go Google.

     
  • by aftk2 ( 556992 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:25PM (#13630438) Homepage Journal
    And the funny thing is, back then, you had people claiming the same thing, that Microsoft was missing the boat - only this time, it's about hosted web applications, and then, it was about the internet (more specifically, the web). Back then, Microsoft was all a-twitter about digital, networked or Smart televisions.

    What does that mean? Well, skip ahead four years, and Microsoft has crushed Netscape, mostly due to actually creating a better browser. I'm not defending their monopolistic practices, but, having been a web developer since around 1998, I can remember distinctly loving Internet Explorer 5.0, especially when working on the Mac, and hating development for Netscape 4.x. Of course, now the inverse is true, with Gecko and KHTML browsers being (mostly) a pleasure, and Internet Explorer development a royal pain.

    My point? Microsoft has been late to the table before. But when they want to catch up, they can.
  • Well... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Momoru ( 837801 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:27PM (#13630465) Homepage Journal
    You realize that for the longest time MSN.com used Google as it's search, same with AOL.com, and Yahoo. As more and more companies offer the same search power as google (pagerank is no secret now) Google will need to make it's actual search better...which seems to be the ONLY thing they don't focus on these days. Just like Microsoft, they are happy to sit at the top of the heap and not innovate, meanwhile going down all sorts of other rabbit holes that have nothing to do with search... Microsoft still has an advantage in "telling" people where they should search by default. Google can be gone as quick as Netscape until they offer something truly unique.
  • by FishandChips ( 695645 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:28PM (#13630477) Journal
    Web services aren't going to fly if consumers (and business consumers) don't like the idea. Has anyone got around to asking them? For a start, web services presuppose a level of infrastructure and sophistication that only the very wealthy currently enjoy. That isn't likely to change for decades, so what are Microsoft going to do until then? I guess web services may just turn out to mean a subscription model for MS Windows. Sigh.

    Meanwhile ... out in the boonies, all over the world ... folks are doing very nicely without infrastructure or gadgets. Pop one Ubuntu CD (or several other Linux single-CD distributions) into an old PC, half an hour later you have a completely modern operating system and scores of programs, including Open Office, coding environments, whatever. At nil cost. You can't compete with that. And what you can't compete with strikes me as a lot scarier than folks you can compete with (like Google) because they follow the same business rules that you do. But what do you do when it's a case of "Charlie don't surf"?
  • by jsebrech ( 525647 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:32PM (#13630512)
    Software already follows a service model. Most software packages you pay a yearly use fee. The old version of a lot of apps becomes gradually useless over time. With apps like photoshop, not so much, but money management software gets outdated really fast.

    Software is just better suited to be a service, since maintenance is the largest part of the cost, and maintenance is the very part that follows AFTER you make a sale. With services, maintenance is part of the service rental fee, making the business model saner, and less front-loaded.

    I think most software is well suited for web conversion. Especially leveraging flash and java. You could write equivalents of microsoft word or adobe photoshop in flash or java, and except for printing get pretty much identical operation (and even printing wouldn't necessarily be that awful). Imagine a photoprint service online where you have a full blown photo editing app right in the webpage, so you can upload your pics, and remove red eyes, adjust contrast, retouch small areas, even draw little moustaches, and then have the pictures printed as professional-quality photographs and have them shipped to you.

    Or imagine an online document editing service, with functional implementations of word, excel and powerpoint in flash or java, allowing you to upload your files, edit them, and redownload the edited versions. Imagine if you got this as a freebie with some ISP's. Or for a low fee. Most people would not bother with MS Office anymore. Especially since if something went wrong with their PC, all their documents would still be on the server, ready for editing, printing, whatever.

    Imagine if your google account held all your office-type documents, including photographs, and provided editing apps for them from the webpage. Imagine it tied into gmail. Imagine these office style apps were no less capable than regular desktop apps. Do you think people would pay money for such a service? Do you think it would attract users?

    I think it would be a smash hit, if done right. And believe me, with current technology you can do it right.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:33PM (#13630524)
    The pieces are already in place. If Google were to use NX No Machine or FreeNX technologies M$ is in for a hellish XPerience. Ballmer vows to bury google? Well Steve, the grave you dig may be your own. Here's how it's done. 1. Offer people free WiMax 2. The device that connects them to this service? Thin clients for home use, or just use a client in Windows. That takes them out of Windows and into a remote Linux OS (or any OS of their choosing for that matter). It has OpenOffice and Firefox + all the other goodies. TV? Sure, why not. Music? I'm sure that can be arranged. Integrate MythTV and it's a no brainer. Add VoIP with it, no problem!! 3. The Fat Lady Sings! How many Joe Public's would love to be freed from the daily virus and adware removal and updates? And if mass produced these clients would be sub $100, maybe even $50. Damn near disposable. It's not only M$ that should be VERY worried, the telcoms and cable industries will be in for the fight of their lives. With WiMax one can envision IP cell phones ( oh there already here). No need for those rip off providers. All these industries are guilty of treating their customers like crap, so no tears will be shed. They'll get what they gave. For those unaware, No Machine open sourced some of it's code. Now M$ can't just make it go away by buying their way out of this one.
  • by InfiniteWisdom ( 530090 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:37PM (#13630562) Homepage
    No kidding about not sharing their billions with their employees... you're probably aware that Microsoft grades their employees' performance on a bell curve and pay raises depend on where you sit on the bell curve... one of my friends was ranked in the top 10% bracket and received a 1.5% pay increase in return. Given that the inflation rate last year was about 3.5%, that really amounts to a 2% pay cut in return for being a top 10% employee.
  • by steveness ( 872331 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:38PM (#13630579)
    Exactly. Software as a service sounds great for some users, but what about the security concerns? I don't exactly trust that every employee of some software service company is ready and willing to protect my docs. Assuming that the service works such that all my docs are created and stored locally on my machine, will be compatability between programs? We already know how compatible MS Office is. Why would that change in a software-as-service oriented system?

    I'm just not with the soothsayers who think completely distributed computing is coming back. Too many advantages for the providers, too little control for the users.

  • by Kurt Gray ( 935 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:39PM (#13630584) Homepage Journal
    When a company first goes public people are excited and the possibilites are limitless. But as time goes by Google will be increasingly pressured to cut costs, lose the fat, concentrate on the core revenue earner (ads) and kill off any development projects that are not generating revenue, and maximize the revenue of popular features like Google Maps (expect to see advertising attached to the maps sometime in the near future).

    What it comes down to is Google sells ads. That's its core business. Google is a media company. Reinventing a company is expensive and dangerous, few survive reinvention, that's why Google will always be a media company and Microsoft will always be a software company and Ford will always sell cars.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2005 @01:44PM (#13630646)
    In contrast, I have a friend who quit microsoft to start is own companies or co-found startups that got bought by microsoft 3 times; for 1 mil, 50 mil, and 20 million in each of those iterations.

    In the third case the price was low because he had started the company while sitll working there; and claims he was in negotiations to be bought back even before he quit.

    For some wierd reason MSFT thinks that paying someone 50 million is cheap if they can do a press release; but paying someone $170,000 to do the same work directly for them is too expensive.

  • by bill_kress ( 99356 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:03PM (#13630812)
    Front page of todays WSJ had a great article on MSFT. It's a tale of two or three individuals that are making a change in the way MSFT develops software. There is some great stuff in there.

    They are trying to consolidate the platform into a small core with more of an add-in technology--it looks like they are starting over with a different core based on an enterprise-only version of NT.

    They also had some great new procedures like continual builds and automated testing. (Can you imagine that those are NEW in Microsoft??? What kind of stupid kid-games have they been playing???)

    One concept I really liked was BUG-Jail. When too many bugs are found from a single developer, that developer is not allowed to write code for a while. They didn't say what they did with 'em, but I think an appropriate task would be to put them on the QA team for 6 months.

    I wonder if some of the changes mentioned in this article are more a result of this restructuring...
  • by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:03PM (#13630818) Homepage Journal
    It hasn't taken shape for the same reason that most TiVos have lifetime subscriptions. People are fed up with corporate overlords nickel-and-diming them to death every month. Realistically, software as a service makes no sense. Anyone who says differently hasn't learned the five lessons of free software:

    1. Any software you can write can be rewritten and made available for free by someone sufficiently charitable with enough free time.
    2. There is a seemingly infinite number of charitable people with too much free time. We call them college students.
    3. Many people will find that the free software does everything they need, making the commercial software unnecessary.
    4. Given a sufficiently oppressive corporate ownership of a software product to drive free software development, the free software will eventually become better than the commercial alternative and people will switch in droves.
    5. A customer lost to free software tends to not come back to commercial equivalents unless there is a -huge- benefit. Thus the equivalent free software tends to eventually become dominant in that space.

    We're only just now beginning to see #4 and #5 come into play. For example, FireFox has clearly hit #4 with respect to MSIE. Linux has done a good job at chipping away at Microsoft in the server market. MySQL has left Oracle bleeding red (even though they're only at #3). Apache has decimated the market for commercial web servers like IIS. OpenOffice has significantly chipped away at MS Office in some circles (but not in the general user case yet). Audacity has become a mainstream app on home recording bulletin boards (even among non-geeks). The list goes on

    I'm not saying I think commercial software is dead. Far from it. But companies that treat customers like a revenue source (e.g. web services to replace software) are not a direction that can reasonably compete with open source. The only way to compete with open source is by doing a better job. Where web services -can- compete is by providing useful services that can't practically be provided by most individuals in their own homes---email, web servers. e-commerce sites, maybe even data backups.

  • by shotfeel ( 235240 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:05PM (#13630832)
    But there are elements all through the CLR and >NET that are innovative. Windows Presentation Foundation (Avalon), Windows Communication Foundation (Indigo), are truely innovative.

    So what exactly is innovative about them? All I've ever seen (as you said) are vague summaries that don't really sound all that innovative.

    Care to enlighten?
  • by TomorrowPlusX ( 571956 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:13PM (#13630904)
    Let me know when I can reliably use the keyboard shortcuts my hands have memorized over the last ~15 years. As in, command-shift-s to save as a new file. If I do that in a web app, what happens? Well, perhaps my browser tries to save the html file I'm viewing, not save the file I'm remotely editing. Or command-f -- what happens? Oh, the browser looks for matching text in the page, not the app.

    And I know that you can make custom command shortcuts that the *app* not the browser responds to. But that's retarded. I have to now think of my shortcuts like nested namespaces? Is this the mnemonic for the hosted app or the host? No way.

    ZUL is the best bet here, I and I applaud that effort. But traditional HTML web apps simply don't cut the mustard. They aren't applications, in my mind, if they don't behave the way applications have behaved for 20 years. And frankly, it's not like I need to just get with the program and accept the new. The new sucks, it isn't as good as what we've got today. I refuse to adapt to an inferior process.

    Wake me up when they can make an app as rich as Flash MX, or Photoshop, or XCode run in a browser.
  • by Pastis ( 145655 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:14PM (#13630915)
    > Software that depends on a working internet connection

    Making things that depend on stable electricity supply was out of thought some decades ago. Today nobody will question to create a device that requires a power connection to function.

    Requiring a network connection to work won't be a problem in the (hopefully near) future. In fact already, I do most of my work on the Internet today: phone, mail, banking operations, etc...
  • Google smoogle. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by katorga ( 623930 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:16PM (#13630933)
    Google is currently a marketing firm. If Google moves into the "web desktop" world and continues to be a direct marketeer, they will not please consumers for long. Business users, due to looming privacy and information security laws, will be prohibited from storing PII or other confidential data on 3rd party, public systems.

    The one's to watch are firms developing toolsets like those of Salesforce.com and then selling local, turnkey solutions for businesses to host in their own data centers. MS has been talking about a subscription model for a decade now, and they could just as easily move this way.

    BUT...hubris is a mighty nemesis. MS's current leadership is focused on monopoly above all else, and this limits their freedom of movement and ability to develop cool stuff for the sake of developing cool stuff. Everything is developed within the prism of how does this reinforce the monopoly. Bring a new breed of internet-savvy,leadership into MS, who can ignore monopoly to develop unbundled, boutique products (high margin, high "it-factor")and you will have a monster on your hands.

    To be brutally honest, Google offers me nothing that I just "can't live without". They offer nothing that I have not seen before, although they do have elegent implementations. The best thing I can say about Google is that at least their directmarketing ads are not as annoying as Yahoo!, but at the end of the day they are a direct marketing firm whose sole purpose is to monitor my behavior and bombard me with ads. I despise that business model.
  • by Burstgoof ( 644178 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:23PM (#13631018)
    ...is like turning on your TV, we will know that MS competitors free-but-advertisement-laiden services have transformed the web into a platform. Remember, the Google business model centers around advertisement, and so do the business models of most major television networks. That's not to say that software as a service isn't the new paradigm... but service as a platform is quite a ways off, and if it sucks because it's just like television, we should have seen it coming.
  • by mikeb ( 6025 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:30PM (#13631090) Homepage
    It's not just about web-based delivery, though Google's eye may be on that ball. A server farm delivering Open Office through a compressive technology like NX [nomachine.com] would be within Google's capability and, if it caught on, would make them Masters of the Universe (TM).

    That would be VERY scary to Microsoft, not to mention a whole bunch of other players in the market. NX delivers a pretty good desktop experience (if you aren't a game player) in around 5KB/s of bandwidth. If that were guaranteed virus-free, with backed-up storage for a modest monthly subscription - like a Hotmail or Yahoo but doing your computing not just your email - I know a lot of people who would sigh with relief, happily accept a lightweight thin client and throw out that hideous, malware-ridden fat-client piece of junk in the corner that they never understood and rarely worked properly.
  • by sprocks ( 515322 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:33PM (#13631137)
    This is equally a problem for desktop Linux acceptance. As Linux pushes for the desktop, the desktop moves to the network ... no place for Linux to land if the desktop is gone. Of course, Linux might drive the lightweight access device but this is a far cry from Linux on the desktop.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:33PM (#13631147)
    How about a vector graphics networkable transformable stylable 3D integrated animatable hardware accelerated user-interface which requires no coding to design?

    Oh wait, that's right, Microsoft doesn't actually innovate. Google must've made that one.
  • by mfterman ( 2719 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:39PM (#13631228)
    Everything looks like a web service. I do not believe that Google is the end all and be all of computing, any more than I think that Microsoft is the end all and be all of computing either. My own feeling is that once we get the "the Network is the computer" sort of stuff out of our thinking and realize that actual usage is going to be some balance of locally hosted programs and data and Web-based applications and data, then we'll be able to make real progress.

    Google Maps work because people don't want to allocate terabytes of storage for maps of the world. Web-based mail and homepages work because most people don't want the work of maintaining their own mail servers and web servers.

    However that doesn't apply to an office suite, when you get down to it, or something using a local database on your machine. There aren't a huge number of advantages to hosting your office suite on a remote server and pulling the apps down the network when you want to run them, and there are a number of downsides.

    I'm not saying that Google isn't going to become a major player in the web services business, or that MSN in time won't become an equally big player. But what I am saying is that locally hosted applications aren't going to go away either, and ultimately, the security of the PC depends on the security of the operating system running on it.
  • by zbend ( 827907 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:41PM (#13631247)
    MS Office is by far the larger profit source for MS. Although it goes hand and hand with Windows and without the OS dominance, Office would fizzle. Which is what the argument is exactly I suppose. That if, or once, the Web becomes the platform for everything, MS Office would simply be another option. An option among many, and likely superior options. Still if Google "wins" or for that matter if anyone "wins", and topples MS as the dominant software giant. They will be the single most dominant provider but undoubtedly not as dominant as MS currently is. zbend
  • I don't buy it (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mstone ( 8523 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @02:45PM (#13631307)
    Sure, web apps may present some threat to Microsoft, but I don't see them as a nightmare scenario.

    What I consider the first part of MS nightmare scenario is working itself out in Massachusets right now: the state government has established a policy on open formats and protocols that wipes out Microsoft's ability to lock people into applications. The second part will start rolling in within the next five years, as Open software starts to establish itself on the corporate desktop.

    Microsoft's main profit center is the symbiotic lock-in between Office and Windows. Those two business units support all the other development Microsoft does. People buy Windows in order to run Office, and they buy Office because, among other things, they have to buy it to maintain the investment they've sunk in thousands of documents over the years.

    Micorosft got rich targeting the corporate desktop, because that's the low-hanging fruit of the software industry. It offers large numbers of machines all doing basically the same thing. The required feature set is well-defined, and it tends to remain stable over the years. They managed to hold that market by locking users into Office with proprietary formats, and by making Windows a more or less necessary requirement for running Office.

    Thing is, OSS is heading for the very same market, because once again, it's the low-hanging fruit of the industry. It's so easy to build a positive feedback cycle around an office suite that you'd almost have to work *not* to do it.

    OSS applications are on the leading edge of being mature enough for regular desktop use, and as more people adopt them, you get more pressure to make them even more mature. Sooner or later (and getting sooner all the time), OSS products will be be seen by the regular public as suitable competition for Office and Windows.

    When that happens, Microsoft's main revenue stream will be under attack by a set of products that can't be killed by normal business methods. And to be perfectly honest, Microsoft has a lousy track record of trying to diversify into other markets. Its core markets will start drying up, and it won't have any new markets to move into.. certainly not at a level that will replace what it's losing from its core markets, at any rate.

    When the money goes, so does the support for peripheral development, experimental products, and just plain 800-pound-gorilla domination tactics. Microsoft won't have the resources to fight an indefinite war against Google, try to edge its way into the online music market, subsidize its Xbox foothold in the console market, and so on. It will have to tighten its belt and fight to hold its ground, and sit around watching opportunitiues pass by because it just can't afford to take a strong, committed risk outisde its core market.

    *That's* Microsoft's biggest nightmare the way I see it.
  • by l0b0 ( 803611 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @03:34PM (#13632131) Homepage

    Here goes my karma, but think about these points before modding:

    Service outages? When was the last time Google was down? Gmail? Slashdot? Your online bank? I'd bet the average home user has a much better image of the stability of the web than that of her own computer...

    Platform issues? How about the millions of webpages which look, feel, and work the same in basically any web browser, even textual ones? Sure, you don't get "pixel perfection" all the time, but when did you last worry about that "thin" border being 2px in your less-than-favorite browser?

    Version control? Ever heard about XML? ODS? I generally expect more of web services than programs, if only for the simple reason that there is actual competition out there.

    Licenses? Well, how about the thousands of services which are free to use, but still make money? This isn't 1996, friend.

  • by rtrifts ( 61627 ) on Friday September 23, 2005 @05:18PM (#13633345) Homepage
    Google as a real threat to MS' core business? This is alarmist nonsense.

    The true threat to Windows continued prosperity is the Xbox 360 and the PS3.

    PC sales have been dominated by growth since 1998 in two sectors:

    1 - Home PCs
    2 - Notebook sales (which has just this past year also shifted to personal use notebooks and away from business use notebooks as the main growth factor in main growth)

    Business desktop sales no longer lead market growth and there is no reason to believe that is going to change anytime soon. There is simply no killer app which requires it. There are none on the horizon either.

    The new sales of personal use PCs critically depends upon continued hardware evolution and "killer apps" to fuel demand for those platform upgrades. It is those upgrades which is the source of all Microsoft's future growth.

    Home sales rely upon PC games as their primary killer app with evolving hardware requirements. It's that simple. Reduce demand for that natural hardware churn and you have a REAL problem with your bottom line in Redmond.

    And that business is seriously imperiled.

    Make no mistake: PC Game developement of Triple A titles is essentially dead in the water. And I don't mean maybe. I mean STONE COLD FUCKING DEAD. It's a mere FRACTION of what it was even five years ago. Piracy is the perceived problem and the publishers have bailed en masse from funding development for the PC platform in favour of the PS3 and Xbox.

    We are NOT in a market lull in PC games. We are in a wholesale abandonment of the market by hundreds of game developers and virtually every software publisher. It's been happening for three years and the effects are really starting to show up now. From here on in for the next 36 months - it only gets worse and worse.

    Introduce Windows Vista? To that market? Dream on guys. Dream on.

    Without new PC Games fueling demand for new PCs - there is a vastly reduced need for new operating systems. Microsoft's sales of Windows Vista OS are already sharply imperiled.

    If Redmond wants to worry - worry about that. Google is a hiccup in history. The disappearance of the renewable killer app which has fueled continuous platform upgrades, on the other hand, is a grave and serious problem for the entire PC industry.

    They's better hope business takes to Skype in a hurry - or the whole industry is in for a wave of depening red ink and contracting sales.

     

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