KDE 4 Promises Large Changes 401
HatofPig writes "As the dust settles from aKademy 2005, the annual KDE conference, it's a good time to take a look at what the KDE developers are working on. Though KDE 3.5 isn't even out yet, developers are already working on KDE 4. Plenty of work has already gone into porting existing code to Qt4, the GUI toolkit upon which KDE is based, and KDE developers are working on projects that could radically change how the world's most popular free desktop looks and works."
Re:I hope its not bloated (Score:4, Informative)
In a nutshell:
* Make a
* Start docker (The OpenBox system tray replacement), kicker, klipper, and whatever other kde components you want to launch.
Tadaa. Done. KDE-lite.
*Notice* (Score:1, Informative)
Re:I hope its not bloated (Score:4, Informative)
Surely you're looking for XFCE? I'm not convinced that making the software more "lightweight" is a good argument, that's clearly not what they're aiming for. Although if there's actual structural problems, or bugs, causing the OTT memory usage, yes, those should be dealt with.
Waste of all the progress! (Score:5, Informative)
The write-up also seemed rather sparse in details, so while I am writing this post I may as well chuck in a few links:
Interesting interview with Aaron Seigo [aseigo.bddf.ca]
Another good interview with Zack Rusin [ox.ac.uk]
Official site for KDE Plasma, the KDE4 desktop. [kde.org]
Re:Stability, ease of use and speed (Score:3, Informative)
there is a project called SimleKDE i am going to keep an eye on- http://www.simplekde.org/ [simplekde.org] i hope SimpleKDE makes a good fork (little brother) of KDE...
Re:Stability, ease of use and speed (Score:5, Informative)
Interesting. I've found the opposite to be true, especially with the Start/K menu. If you want to speed up Konqueror's file browsing features, turn off stuff like document previews.
Re:Bloatware (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Stability, ease of use and speed (Score:3, Informative)
As for web page rendering, if you look at the benchmarks konqueror is the fastest Free browser, beating all the gecko-based ones hands down. Where it does get slow is running javascript, that needs to be improved.
Re:Linux needs a good, easy desktop. (Score:2, Informative)
Two letters: (Score:1, Informative)
SimpleKDE (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Speed and memory consumption (Score:5, Informative)
Re:My suggestions (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Stability, ease of use and speed (Score:3, Informative)
Let's be honest here, you're really comparing apples to oranges when you compare completely different hardware like that. KDE and Win overall performance *as a desktop on the same hardware* is similar. KDE certainly isn't perfect, particularly it's task bar, but I'd be hard pressed to say Windows is so much better. On a side note, for a desktop, I think dual CPU boxes simply aren't worth the fractional performance gain they offer vs. their added cost. However, from a geek-cred standpoint, they do offer bragging rights that single unit systems don't.
Re:Ah, but will KBear work? (Score:3, Informative)
Why did you have to mix kbear (as any other independent app) with KDE itself? Just because its made for KDE?
Would this mean that if I, eventually, developed a nice calculator for windows that says 2+2=69 instantly Windows would be so buggy that 2+2=69?
Re:Include CVS/SVN stuff in Konqueror! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Stability, ease of use and speed (Score:3, Informative)
Apps which require more complex use from a multimedia engine will have to support gstreamer directly.
Re:Include CVS/SVN stuff in Konqueror! (Score:3, Informative)
It DOES exist. And it's used. Everything in Konqueror is a plugin, so it is used a lot. When you install Cervisia, for example, it automatically integrates with Konqueror. I don't know what the grandparent's problem is, because I'm always hassling with turning that *OFF* because I don't want it.
FreeNX -- blazingly fast over dialup! (Score:1, Informative)
Oh, dude!
I'll read it to you:
"She told me that she wanted to use a remote client to work on her work machine from home."
Does this sound like "LAN" to you??
And I'll read you some more:
"She told me that windows xp did it so significantly faster that she dumped linux because she could not stand the wait."
And I tell you one more thing, from experience: She is right. She's absolutely fscking right! Repeat after me, three times:
Remote X over a DSL dialup link is unusable for work. Remote X over a DSL dialup link is unusable for work. Remote X over a DSL dialup link is unusable for work.
And FreeNX over the same DSL link is blazingly fast [linuxjournal.com]. You can hardly tell the difference of FreeNX-over-DSL from a local session. And it is nearly as fast over a dialup modem or dialup ISDN link.
FreeNX beats Windows RDP out of its pants.