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Video iPod Oct 12? 471

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the rumors-flow-like-honey dept.
Petey_Alchemist writes "Apple Insider is reporting that Apple will release a video iPod on October 12th, possibly in conjunction with the announcement of Apple's fourth quarter results. From the article 'Although details are scarce, sources who claim to have seen the new iPod describe it as being similar to Apple's 60GB iPod photo player, but several millimeters thinner. The device reportedly sports a smaller click-wheel akin to that of the iPod nano's, making way for a larger, higher-resolution color display that extends further down the face of the device.' "
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  • by jabella (91754) * on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:08PM (#13722811) Journal
    and think secret [thinksecret.com] is saying the exact opposite: no vIpod, it's powermac and powerbook updates.

    in a week we'll all know!
    • on October 12th, possibly in conjunction with the announcement of Apple's fourth quarter results
      Bit early to be accouncing fourth quarter results, unless they also plan on announcing their new Astrologer service.
    • by Oculus Habent (562837) * <[oculus.habent] [at] [gmail.com]> on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:21PM (#13722928) Journal
      The invitation picture piques my interest, though. I don't think it'll be a video iPod, but I think movies are involved bdsed on the red curtain.

      The "AirPort Express" device is probably not for the iPod, but rather like the Express, a video-out system for Macs, allowing you to play your movies to your TV without having them near each other... Hasn't this constantly been the intention of Apple - the "digital hub" without all the wires?

      I wonder if/hope it will support a remote control, so you can control your on-computer content in the other room from the TV.
      • by jabella (91754) * on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:28PM (#13723000) Journal

        personally, i think it's going to be the rebranding of the itms from 'itunes music store' to the new media store.

        they'll sell movies, etc. no new device for watching on tv yet. no new video ipod yet. you need a base of people who use the service that really WANT a remote way to move their media around first. how many people (outside the slashdot community) would even HAVE movies to put on an vipod now?

      • I was listening to my ipod at a coffee shop, and so were three other people, and I was thinking to myself, why can't my ipod show songs available from the coffeeshop. I hope they figure out how to stream to the ipod, with the songs showing up on the screen and everything.
      • by Xugumad (39311)
        I like the idea of an video streaming device; have quite fancied getting one, but really haven't been confident enough about any implementation so far. I can't see Apple not including a remote control, it's such an obvious add-on and they're hardly one to cut corners...
    • Widescreen iBooks (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's been on the table for a while, and according to the company supplying the screens, are set to unroll sometime in early 2006.
    • That's strange, on the 5th of September Thinksecret claimed that we wouldn't see new powerbooks this year. http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0509g5.html [thinksecret.com]

      Quote:
      No PowerBook revision?

      Sources are also reporting that the pending Power Mac revision will be the last Mac upgrade of the calendar year. Contrary to other reports, Apple's PowerBook line, last revised in February with only incremental upgrades, will likely not see an upgrade before Macworld Expo San Francisco in January 2006, at the earliest.

    • Apple lawsuit over the leaked information in 5... 4... 3...
    • by bigman2003 (671309) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:44PM (#13723157) Homepage
      But why would an MP3 Player company release new computers?
    • by The Lynxpro (657990) <lynxpro@gmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:48PM (#13723687)
      "and think secret is saying the exact opposite: no vIpod, it's powermac and powerbook updates."

      And ThinkSecret seems to think there's a large margin on the iPod Nano, which there is not.

      ThinkSecret seems to think that an iPod Video model would rob sales of the iPod Nano despite the fact that the Video model would be at the high price range ($500+) of all iPods, whereas the Nano is not.

      This event is a media special event. It makes no sense to invite the media if it is merely an annoucement and last hurrah of the PowerBooks and PowerMacs before the Intel switch.

      Most likely, the event will start with a speed bump/dual core announcement for the PowerBooks and PowerMacs. The "one last thing" - and the main event of the presentation - would be the iPod Video, along with the iMovie/iVideo/iWhatever Video store debut. You gotta think about it like the last presentation; the rather mundane Motorola ROKR shown off (well, actually, iTunes 5.0 first), and then the major announcement of the iPod Nano saved for last.

      We must all remember that we are in the final stretches before the holiday season. Apple needs to remind consumers that Apple is still hot this holiday season, and thus an iPod Video would serve this well.

      Then again, same goes for a G5 powered and HD capable Mac Mini, while they are at it. But I doubt that is meant to be for now.

    • by slapout (93640) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @02:12PM (#13723839)
      Well, let's just see which one Apple sues and then we'll know who's right!
  • The screen! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by glamslam (535995) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:08PM (#13722812)
    Let's just hope this screen resists scratches much better than the nano. At least you do not have to look at the nano to enjoy listening to it...
    • by Basehart (633304) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:24PM (#13722959)
      I've had my Nano for a week now and there are no mystery scratches appearing on its surface, but then again I keep mine wrapped in a lens cleaning cloth.

      As soon as my Invisible Shield [theinvisibleshield.com] shows up though, I'll be able to keep it in the same pocket as my grit, rough diamonds and emery boards.
    • Re:The screen! (Score:2, Informative)

      by dcstimm (556797)
      Use Brasso to take the scratches off... Brasso [dailey.info]
    • Re:The screen! (Score:3, Interesting)

      Let's just hope this screen resists scratches much better than the nano. At least you do not have to look at the nano to enjoy listening to it...

      Considering they are made of the same material, I'd imagine that it is just as scratch prone. The difference according to apple is people didn't complain about it with the larger iPod. I would guess, that in addition to only coming in white, the nano gets put into tighter quarters (jeans pockets and whatnot).

      Maybe someday TDK [slashdot.org] will save us that trouble. Unless ther

  • by dada21 (163177) * <adam.dada@gmail.com> on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:09PM (#13722817) Homepage Journal
    Video is not portable in any successful manner. Cell phone providers can't get people interested; portable mini-LCD DVD players spend more time on family room shelves than in-use.

    Music videos? Does MTV even play them anymore? Who watches videos?

    My impression is that Apple is trying to make the market viable, yet the iPod's popularity rode on years of MP3 success from Napster-on. Who trades videos over P2P or buys video DVDs from Borders, Wal-Mart or Amazon?

    Is it a workaround from the RIAA? Doubtful. Is it attempting to fill up the hole in a dwindling music video market? Unlikely. Is it a feature that will get a huge initial "ooh toy" interest that will never get used after the first few weeks?

    I can't see why this is needed unless Apple foresees video Podcasts from independent video "bloggers" or DIY TV show sites, but even that is a stretch.

    The iPod coasted on the coattails of a huge market without a user friendly portable player. Video iPod is trying to invent a market boom.
    • by mysqlrocks (783488) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:12PM (#13722841) Homepage Journal
      Video is not portable in any successful manner. Cell phone providers can't get people interested; portable mini-LCD DVD players spend more time on family room shelves than in-use.

      I have a feeling this isn't about selling iPods. This is about proving that people will be interested in downloading video content through services like iTunes. What if it can hook up to your TV and act like a DVD player? What if iTunes starts having lots of good video content? This is just small part of a much bigger picture.
    • Music videos? Does MTV even play them anymore?

      Yeah, what's up with that? How is it Music Television when there are just shows on there?
    • by Morgalyn (605015)
      I think the market is in homebrew video. A large number of people use the photo iPods as their virtual expanding wallet of family photos. Just imagine being able to show Grandma a short video of that cute thing Junior did, without going to another room, setting up the tv and the VCR or the DVD player and then remembering the stuff and... well, you see?

      The latest version of iTunes to come out added support for video podcasting, and with storage and bandwidth becoming less of a factor, I think we are goin
    • by Golias (176380) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:16PM (#13722881)
      portable mini-LCD DVD players spend more time on family room shelves than in-use.

      That might be true in the circles you are in, but business travellers and various other frequent-flyer types LOVE portable DVD players. Not only for passing time between flight connections, but for late evenings on the road when you don't feel like going out or trying to find something on the hotel TV.

      Not to mention damn near every last grunt in Iraq. There's a lot of "down-time" involved in occupation efforts, and folks like us mailing DVD's out to them is one of their main sources of entertainment out there.

      These groups of people would probably go bananas over a video iPod, if it was done right.
      • Maybe the circle of aquaintances you have are different, but all the business travellers I know have their laptops with them to play a DVD on. Bigger screen, and they have to take it with them on trips anyway. The really wired ones take not only a couple of DVDs but also a few shows from Tivo2Go with them. I don't know of one person who takes a portable DVD/PVR with them on business trips.

        I don't know anything about soldiers, but I don't think basing a market on a few thousand (hopefully) temporary deployme
        • by ediron2 (246908) *
          A quick googling shows:304 thousand [army.mil] troops overseas in over 120 countries worldwide as of 2004. That's enough by itself, but there are other niche's that this fits: travellers, people with jobs that have a lot of waiting (night clerk, security guard, etc), etc.

          As for using my laptop to play an in-flight movie: My desktop-replacement doesn't fit comfortably in the space I get in coach (and god help me if the seat in front of me reclines!), the laptop eats batteries too quickly to last thru a 2 or 3 flight
      • by jargoone (166102) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:35PM (#13723071)
        These groups of people would probably go bananas over a video iPod, if it was done right.

        It was, [archos.com], but it doesn't say Apple on it. Hence, no bananas.
        • by damiam (409504)
          Maybe it would be more popular if it weren't twice the size of the iPod (12.1 vs. 6.2 cubic inches for the 20GB models) and significantly heavier (9.9 vs. 5.9 ounces).
        • by Anonymous Coward
          I took the compusa 10 day rental on an Archos system and promptly returned it the next day. My intention was to rip my favorite shows from my TiVo to my computer. (Which I had already done for that season of Smallville and Farscape.) and play them on the Archos.

          The problems are:

          A) You have to down size all your movies to fit the resolution of the screen.

          B) Archos does not provide the software to do this and the freeware stuff they had me download used a very lossy codec.

          Until I can watch my shows without ha
        • by Tibor the Hun (143056) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:43PM (#13723646)
          No offense, but it's not the fact that it doesn't say Apple on it.
          It's but uggly, and doesn't support h.264

          Sony PSP doesn't say Apple, yet is a fine portable video player.
          I think you're flaming a bit.

    • Video is not portable in any successful manner.
      Then why are people buying PSPs? I don't think it's for the games.
    • There are a couple of companies in this market already. Apple is not trying to create the market as you say. They are competing in it. The PSP is a portable video player. It seems to me that Apple is trying to use widespead acceptance of iTunes as a way of getting a leg-up in this market. The PSP has those stupid (I forget the format) disks that you have to buy in a store (or at least order on-line). With a video iPod it will all be downloaded content.
    • by CameraChimera (835399) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:21PM (#13722930)
      Not portable? I'm inclined to agree, but then why are PSP movie sales through [mp3newswire.net] the [geek.com] roof [usatoday.com]? It seems that a market already exists.

      If Apple can match the PSP's screen quality and beat its ease of use (by making movies downloadable, perhaps) they might have something.
      • ... because they count the *free* distirbution of Spiderman 2 with nearly every PSP at launch as a "sale" (technically, it is a sale, but come on, it is not the same thing).

        Add to that the number of people who will buy only one UMD ever for the "try it out" factor, and you will see that the numbers are not as good as it looks.

        Portable video players have a bright future I think, but not based on a closed priorietary format that costs more than a DVD (who wants to buy a movie twice?).

      • by ifwm (687373)
        "I'm inclined to agree, but then why are PSP movie sales through the roof?"

        They're not. You swallowed a marketing pitch disguised as news.

        Go stand in the corner until you get your "silly corporate hype" detector working.
      • by mbbac (568880)
        Isn't the Nintendo DS selling far better than the PSP?
      • 1. PSPs are expensive, therefore bought primarily by people with money to burn. The same people are willing to spend money on buying multiple copies of movies. It's fair to say the PSP has probably close to saturated that particular market.

        2. PSPs have very little game content available, therefore buyers are going to be inclined to look at movies, for nothing else but to salvage the device and ensure it isn't completely useless.

        3. As others have said, Sony has been disengenuous in how it counts sales, i

    • Video is not portable in any successful manner. Cell phone providers can't get people interested;

      Oh, so... since cell phone providers can't get people interested in their crappy, poorly designed, expensive portable video, no one else should attempt such a thing, even if it becomes technologically trivial?

      Why not allow video playback on the iPod? They already have a color screen, and enough hard drive space to store several movies. It's not like it'd take much to allow video playback.

      Of course, if they

    • Well cell phone providers can't get people interested because the cell phone screens are not high res, there is not mass storage on a cell phone, and Verizon charges $15 a month for V-Cast which is a bit nuts.

      Those portable DVD players you talk about, are HUGE in areas with commuter trains. I see them every day on my ride into DC and I am sure trains from Conn to NY and into Chicago also see them. Trust me commuters and freq. travelers love this things.

      Are you saying that there isn't a market for vide
    • Amen. Video will be portable when VR becomes popular, or Star Wars-style floating screens become popular. Possibly a tiny personal projector would work for a portable movie player, but you'd still need a flat white surface (not a lot of those on transportation vehicles) and they tend to be really, really hot.

      If there were some sort of standard wireless interface for TVs, this could work - you'd just hook in. But plugging into RCA jacks is probably too much of a PITA for most users. Still, that would be
    • To me, the market is the same market that drove the growth in VCRs - porn. I'm not being facetious when I say A LOT of hairy-palmed guys are gonna snatch this device up load it with A) 10MB of family pictures B) 59.99 GB of downloads from alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica. Forget the problem with scratched screens - let's just hope the damn thing is waterproof.
  • Well... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Avyakata (825132) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:10PM (#13722825) Homepage Journal
    There's kind of a way to do that now...if you put a bunch of frames in and scroll...but, well...this would be a lot more convenient.
  • But... (Score:2, Funny)

    by snowwrestler (896305)
    will it still be stuck with iTunes [slashdot.org]??
  • Yes, I'd have to eat "10% of the purchase price in restocking fees", but I just got a 60 GB iPod two weeks ago.

    The video side on the iPod side doesn't interest me near as much as the outport system - I'd love to be able to hook it to my TV, archive all of my DVD's to the computer (something I was planning on doing anyway, as I have young children who, though they mean well, tend to dirty the DVD's a bit, and already ruined one copy of Toy Story). Then I can just transfer movie to iPod, put iPod in other room, and have every movie at my fingertips, and my DVD's stay perfectly pristine.

    Granted, this is still a rumor, and I'll take it with a grain of salt until I see product in the store - but if they do make the announcement, I'll still have another 11 days on the return policy (maybe I'll just have to "borrow" my wife's iPod Mini for a week or two - I think some groveling will be in order).
  • Must be a new fiscal quarter.

    Really, I wish they WOULD release one, just so we don't have to go through the same reasons for/against one again.
  • by jmcmunn (307798) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:14PM (#13722856)

    "Slashdot, Speculation For Nerds." I am going to get a copyright on that.
  • by mblase (200735) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:15PM (#13722877)
    Would a larger screen on an iPod-sized device really make it any easier to watch video on it? No matter how you design things, it's a tiny tiny display.

    Say you make it taller than it is wide and rotate it ninety degrees to view video. Then you're 2" tall, but still only about 2.7" wide, giving you a whopping 3.3" diagonal, up from 2.5" on the current iPod.

    Video out support is good, but you're pushing that tiny hard drive pretty hard whether you're driving the iPod's screen or not. Apple would have to do some very impressive tricks with the battery life to make a video iPod practical.

    From everything I've been reading, video support on the current iPod is just a firmware upgrade away. But I'm not convinced it's something users are going to be able to use well, even if it is just restricted to music videos.

    Hopefully AppleInsider's barking up the wrong tree.
    • Would a larger screen on an iPod-sized device really make it any easier to watch video on it? No matter how you design things, it's a tiny tiny display.

      Have any family photos in your wallet? How big are they?

      A TV screen that small is probably not as unwatchable as you think, given current LCD technology. If people can enjoy playing games on a small hand-held device, they can probably also enjoy watching archives of "CSI" (or whatever) using headphones and a 2" x 3" screen.
    • > Say you make it taller than it is wide and rotate it ninety degrees to view video. Then you're 2"
      > tall, but still only about 2.7" wide, giving you a whopping 3.3" diagonal, up from 2.5" on the
      > current iPod.

      You're too critical!

      Look, if I were 2" tall, I'd love to watch TV on a 3.3" screen! I'd even put up with the 2.5" screen. Imagine a screen bigger than you are-- it would be like your own personal cinema!

      Of course, if I were 2" tall and 2.7" wide as you suggest, I'd have plenty of free time to
    • I seriously doubt current iPods have the muscle to do truly high quality video playback. That takes Pentium III class hardware or some very dedicated custom chips.

      Maybe 320x200 MPEG4 "simple profile" but nothing you download off the net.

      I am not using a portable video device until it is a) cheap and b) has at least a PSP-res or VGA screen, and c) is able to play back pirated DIVX/XVID movies as-is from the net.

      Nothing really passes all three criteria right now.
  • I've been waiting a long time for a PowerBook at G5 speeds. Maybe this will be an Intel PowerBook.

    (Unlikely, since they said it would be Janruary before Intel Macs come out, but it would be nice.)
  • All I can say is if this is true, it better play more video container and codec combinations then Quicktime Player does otherwise it will be terribly limited. Unlike a Mac running OS X, users would not be able to trivially add codecs or install programs like VLC or MPlayer on an iPod as they are forced to do on a Mac in order to watch most "modern" commonly used codecs and container formats.
  • Hey baby! (Score:4, Funny)

    by vertinox (846076) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:16PM (#13722893)
    I can see it now: "Is that porn in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
  • Bound to happen. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by blackmonday (607916) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:17PM (#13722898) Homepage
    I watched 2 movies on my iPaq on a flight from LA to Paris. It was actually very nice. I have only 1 GB of storage, but that fits 2 divx movies perfectly.

    I doubt that Apple will support divx, using H.264 instead. My question, who has compared these formats in a 500 MB size limit? Will Apple give you a utility to convert your DVDs? (probably not). Also, the question of battery life is important. An SD card doesn't spin inside. That hard drive on the iPod is going to burn a lot of battery power, and get hot to the touch.

    The video iPod is inevitable. My questions are mainly to how we will fill them without an Apple Movie Store. I would expect the release of this iPod to coincide with the release of a movie store.

    • Re:Bound to happen. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by thermopile (571680) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:54PM (#13723253) Homepage
      I agree with your statement that the video iPod is inevitable.

      It's also very interesting to note the following:

      Go to www.apple.com/movies. "You don't have permission to access /movies on this server"

      Go to www.apple.com/umptysquat. "Trying to find something at Apple?"

      As Bill said from _Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure_, "Ted ... something strange is afoot at the Circle K."

      However, and this is only my two cents, I don't think the technology / battery life / screen size / processor speed is quite there yet to show H.264 on a portable system in a marketable, affordable package. Give it two more years.

    • by Apotsy (84148) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:53PM (#13723718)
      As others in this thread have said, DivX is a hacked up implementation of MPEG-4 part 2. So is Xvid, for that matter.

      H.264 is totally different. It's MPEG-4 part 10. It's about as big a leap over MPEG-4 part 2 as MPEG-4 was over MPEG-2.

      Considering mplayer and other open source apps support H.264, there is *no* reason for anyone to be using DivX or Xvid any more. You will get *better* quality *and* smaller file sizes by using H.264.

    • Re:Bound to happen. (Score:3, Interesting)

      by hattig (47930)
      I agree it will happen, maybe next week, maybe next year.

      I'm speculating here:

      iPod AV Screen Resolution :: 320x208 (same as A1000, P910, etc) :: or 480x304 (under half DVD resolution, 16:9)

      H.264 can encode DVD quality media in 1mbit/s. I saw somewhere it could do it in 800kbps even. However the screen is half that. You could have video content encoded at 500kbps or under (i'm ignoring showing it on a TV here, and given the speculation about Airport Express including video out in its next incarnation you mig
  • by Anonymous Coward
    ... okay, it's just speculation on what will be announced, but hey, Cringe agrees with it!

    http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008158.php [vodkapundit.com]

    Quote: "Most observers are predicting a "video iPod" that will play back video on a hand-sized device. Not me. I'm predicting not a video iPod, but rather an "iFlicks" service (they may or may not use that name) enabled by a new Airport-Express-on-steroids wireless widget with a video out, as well as a snazzy Apple remote control (perhaps looking something like this) for iTune
    • Close, but no banana. Why limit it to G5 owners? An H.264 decoder chip costs under $10. They could quite easily build the decoder logic into the Airport Express Base Station, and allow even G3-class machine to stream the video with almost no CPU load. Combine this with a remote control and an iTunes-like interface so you don't have to go to your computer to press pause, and you might well have a winner.
  • Who knows (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:18PM (#13722906)
    The rumours about a video-out enabled Airport base-station and video download capability in iTunes are more interesting - the ability to use the iTunes as a download centre for Video On Demand streamed to your TV strikes me as a potentially bigger market than for video on the go.

    However, given that many of the movie studios are linked to the same record companies 'fighting' with Apple at the moment makes you wonder where the content would come from.

    Think Secret are usually correct though.

    Maybe they're finally launching 'Asteroid'

  • if this doesn't have video out, I don't see the point. I don't want to watch any show or clip of a show on my ipod. I am sure there are a lot of other people who are the same.

    but,

    if it did have vdeo out of some sort, it would be really attractive. I would buy a show through apple (h264 would be awsome), load it onto an ipod and play it on a tv at my convience, hd output of some sort would be a plus.
  • ..... "1000 Porn movies in your pocket"
  • by BJZQ8 (644168)
    How are people going to look cool without blazing white earbuds?
  • Far be it for me to engage in Apple speculation, but... :-)

    If you look at AppleInsider's next article, with the actual invitation card, the background looks like a theater curtain. I think they're going to beat TiVo, etc. to the punch and introduce an online movie store. Burn to DVD, or stream using a new AirPort Express Base Station with video out. (Rumors about vPods have been rampant for months, perhaps years, but this AirPort Express Base Station w/video out rumor just popped out of nowhere a week befor
  • Not sure, but... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by doughrama (172715) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:36PM (#13723083)
    Obviously I'm not sure what Apple's going to announce but I don't think it's going to be a video iPod. Here's a thought. I think Apple (as I've said before in a previous post/story)is going to introduce a Tivo like devices that hooks into the network and allows you to rent/download movies. (something that you might envision if/when tivo and netflix get rolling together)

    My suspicions are even stronger now that this "invite" has gone out. I think it's fairly obvious that a movie download service is a natural fit/extension for Apple given the success of ITMS. Yesterday or the day before I read a couple of articles where some big movie execs (or mpaa or somebody) were saying that they were going to enter the movie download market before the end of the year.

    The invitation itself does leave a couple of clues (I think.) The first hint is "one more thing..." Steve's opening line before announcing his big plan. To me that means that Apple's going to announce something big. Not: We've said that video for the iPod is stupid, but "Oh yeah, one more thing... It's a video iPod! TAH DAH!!!! it's the greatest thing ever!" Of coarse, Steve Job's could invoke his RSF and make my claim a reality rather than a silly musing.

    The next clue is the curtains in the invitation. To me those look like the old movie theater curtains they used to use (and maybe still use.) Dunno, but I can't imagine that they would be using theater curtains because somebody in the art department thought it would make a nifty background for "one more thing." But maybe.

    Lastly, I don't believe that refreshed computers (desktops or laptops) would be enough of a reason to setup an invitation only press event. Well it could be G5 powerbooks, but I doubt that.

    So my offical guess is a Apple branded DVR that hooks into a Apple movie service similar to ITMS.

  • But (Score:3, Funny)

    by microcars (708223) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:36PM (#13723089) Homepage
    will I be able to watch my hand-made paper Flipbooks on it?

    Call me a Luddite, but if Flipbook support is not there, I'm not opening my wallet.

    except to watch my credit cards flip back and forth...flipflipflipflipflipflipflipflipflip.....

  • by TummyX (84871) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:44PM (#13723164)
    Apple will release a viPod shuffle which will support automagic shuffling of your videos and, to make smaller it easier to use, no screen.

    No words yet on the release date of emacsPod.
  • by hunterx11 (778171) <hunterx11&gmail,com> on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @12:46PM (#13723186) Homepage Journal
    What does As Seen On TV [slashdot.org] think about this? :)
  • by chia_monkey (593501) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:00PM (#13723296) Journal
    I think the studios would be more inclined to go with a tried and true distribution system, ala iTunes, than just dabbling with however many companies are trying to get into this. Apple got the record labels to sign on beforehand and thus had a load of available titles when iTunes was released. I can see him doing the same thing with the studios. Plus, having Pixar as a company and rubbing elbows with the industry can't hurt either. It just seems that the studios would feel much safer knowing Apple has a way to distribute and has such a large following already. Why risk having a myriad of formats, pricing, distribution sources, etc?
  • I'll fuel the rumor (Score:5, Interesting)

    by chia_monkey (593501) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:22PM (#13723477) Journal
    And has anyone noticed how .Mac account holders were pleasantly awarded with more storage space now? Hmmmm...I wonder why? Possibly to hold video files? Hmmm...
  • pocket video (Score:3, Insightful)

    by frankmu (68782) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @01:38PM (#13723609) Homepage
    the posters who complain about the usefulness of such devices don't have children. i recently traveled with children to SF. i had ripped some kids videos (They Might Be Giant's "Here come the giants") to my treo 650. now you can argue about how illegal that is, but it kept my kids occupied. now, would you like a screaming 2 year old sitting behind your plane seat, or one watching video? there is definitely a place for this device.
  • by Wonderkid (541329) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @03:29PM (#13724359) Homepage
    Understated styling, minimal reliance on soon to be obsolete removable solid state media, compact physical size, stable future proof OS, slowly evolving price / performance ratio equals the perfect home media hub, and we all know that people simply do not and cannot watch movies on a portable device, except for news and sports clips - something that can be done on the latest 3G phones. Chances are, Apple are prepping or will soon release an iApp that not only provides a media centre interface for all ones own and broadcast content, but integrated with an iTunes type service for home movie downloading and viewing. The movie making apps like Final Cut and iMovie will of course allow movies to be created on the power hardware (such as Powerbooks and G5 Powermac systems) and in a fantastic piece of irony for Apple, viewed on their Mac Mini based media hub - or iBooks and Powerbooks too, which are FAR MORE PRACTICAL for viewing movies! Any future iPod is far more likely to morph into an 'only Apple can do it this way' smart phone / remote control device for ones life and the Mac Mini. Remember you read it here first!
  • by tgibbs (83782) on Wednesday October 05, 2005 @04:05PM (#13724609)
    A video iPod would be cool, but I don't know that I'd buy one. On the other hand, if Apple comes out with a photo iPod with a Keynote presentation player (not just a slide show, but effects and all) and VGA output for a projector, I'll definitely buy one, and so will every other academic, and probably a lot of business types as well.
    • I'll definitely buy one, and so will every other academic, and probably a lot of business types as well.

      I don't really understand the "academic" bit of your comment. Isn't showing a Powerpoint or Keynote presentation enough to permanently revoke your intellectual credentials? What "academic" would be caught dead with such a hucksterish and infantile way of presenting their ideas? They would look like a retard from business school.

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