Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD Not Over Yet

samkass writes "Here is a good summary of the latest technical wheeling-and-dealing between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Among things that were new to me: the addition of a "red" 9GB HD format to Blu-Ray that would make initial Blu-Ray content (that fits) even cheaper than HD-DVD. Also, more discussion about managed copy (AACS, BD Plus, and ROM Mark) and iHD (HD-DVD) vs BD-J/Java (Blu-Ray)."

not OVer?

[Anonymous Coward]

Can we at least not put such trivial errors in the SUbject line?

Or am I ASking too much?

Re:Can Blue Ray (Red) play on existing computers n

[MindStalker]

At 9GB the short answer is no. Most likly the laser spacings will be tighter, this adjustment can be done easily on the production lines, but much more difficult to do on the average player.

XBOX360 DOES NOT SUPPORT HD-DVD

[ergo98]

Oh really, and MS support via the 360 for HD-DVD won't have a cancelling effect on this?

This keeps getting stated on here, and it is entirely untrue. People are confused because Microsoft tepidly put their backing behind HD-DVD, yet the Xbox360 actually uses neither - it is standard old school 9GB DVD.

Re:The real question is:

[l33t-gu3lph1t3]

High-Definition video is not kind to the porn industry. Porn makers found that when they went from VHS to DVD, the increased on-screen detail forced them to use softer lights and better filters, and more makeup for the actresses. High-definition really brings out the detail in the flesh, which, unfortunately for porn, means that the viewer gets to see that the pornstarlet isn't all that good looking. To be honest the only porn genre that benefits from HDTV is amateur porn - where people only care about realism, and not softened, impossible beauty. While VHS offered portability and privacy, and DVDs offered random-access and lower production costs, HD-DVD and Bluray offer no tangible benefits to the porn industry.

Take the Blue laser or the Red laser?

[digitaldc]

You take the blue laser and the story ends. You wake in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red laser and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the data pits go.

The bottom line is which format holds more data, is cheaper and is consumer-friendly, IMHO.
From http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#1.5 [blu-ray.com] and http://www.hddvdprg.com/hddvd/hddvd_3.html [hddvdprg.com]

---How much data can you fit on a Blu-ray disc?
A single-layer disc can fit 23.3GB, 25GB or 27GB.
A dual-layer disc can fit 46.6GB, 50GB or 54GB.
HD-DVD can hold 15, 30, 32GB

---How much video can you record on a Blu-ray disc?
Over 2 hours of high-definition television (HDTV) on a 25GB disc. About 13 hours of standard-definition television (SDTV) on a 25GB disc.
HD-DVD can hold 4hrs HDTV on 15GB disc, 8hrs HDTV on 30GB disc

---How fast can you read/write data on a Blu-ray disc?
According to the Blu-ray Disc specification, 1x speed is defined as 36Mbps.
HD-DVD speed is 36.55Mbps

Re:Blu-Ray will be Infected with DRM

[jcupitt65]

HD-DVD is DRM-ed up to the eyeballs as well, there's no real difference. As is the original DVD, of course. HD-DVD may allow playing from hard disc, but it will still be very heavily DRM'd. Blu-ray might also allow this, it's not clear yet.

Re:How about something DRM-Free?

[sheddd]

HD-DVD mandates a copy be allowed, but the price of that copy is up to the content owner.

BLU-RAY leaves it to the content owner to decide whether or not copying will be allowed (and at what price).

Sounds the same to me ($1k per copy is about the same as no copying allowed)

Re:How about something DRM-Free?

[stephenslashdot]

Your right in that mistakes will happen with big companies, or small companies, or even with individuals. What seperates good from evil is how you rectify those mistakes. Since the discovery of the "mistake" Sony has: * Had a senior executive say that people should not be concerned because most of the sheep don't even know what a root kit is. * Denied that it was a real problem, but said they were bowing to public pressure by "unhiding" the files (which still left the always present driver that sucks resources and breaks legitimate software) * Refused to publicly release an uninstall tool and made customers have to ask for permission to uninstall it. * Did not take care with the uninstall utility, and thus, made it another point of attack on the customer's system. And that's just since the "mistake" (which involved using root kits to DRM as well as violating (in a minor way) other people's copyrights in the act of protecting their own). Yeah, I think a lot more negativity needs to be piled on. Sony needs to be HURT financially to teach them never to try this crap again, much like you have to swat the nose of a dog with a newspaper to keep them from pooping in the house.