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Court Rules Ellison Must Donate $100M to Charity 191

PokeyPenguin writes "As part of a settlement for insider trading allegations, a California judge has ordered that Larry Ellison donate $100 million to charity. CNet reports, 'The charity payments are an unusual way to settle such a case. Typically, settlement payments would go directly to the company, in this case Oracle. "But with Mr. Ellison owning a quarter of Oracle's stock, much of such a direct payment, in effect, would have gone to him."'"
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Court Rules Ellison Must Donate $100M to Charity

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  • Re:Tax Break (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Tamsco ( 672082 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @04:40AM (#14164358)
    Maybe, at least the state won't have to pay for his trip to club fed.
  • by sketchkid ( 555690 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:00AM (#14164398) Homepage
    well the long-term investors - those who were damaged at the time of illicit trading and have sustained a drop in shareholder wealth - are compensated with the recapitalization of the company
  • $17 Billion Dollars? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by el_womble ( 779715 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:07AM (#14164419) Homepage
    So the settlement was for 0.6% of his personal worth? Or bearly equivalent to a speeding ticket to a guy on $30,000 and he gets 5 years to pay it and no criminal record?

    That's justice right there.
  • Great Solution (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:09AM (#14164423)
    Why not just exclude his stock from the distribution of the settlement. That way the people he screwed could still benefit from this settlement.
  • No wrongdoing? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sh0dan ( 762382 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:35AM (#14164480) Homepage
    From TFA:
    Ellison offered in September to settle the case with $100 million in charitable donations and without admitting wrongdoing.
    I'm really puzzled about this. Can someone explain to me, how you can pay yourself out of a wrongdoing?

    To - you have either done nothing wrong, and you are free, or you have done something wrong and have to pay for it. Maybe I'm just naiive, but how can it be "nothing wrong" and paying back money?
  • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:41AM (#14164497) Journal

    ... Larry Ellison should have to put the $100M into a non-profit foundation that pays developers to improve PostgreSQL. Properly managed, that kind of money would easily fund a team of 50 developers for decades.

  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @05:55AM (#14164524)
    Not the same thing at all, though it doesn't stop the likes of Bill Gates mixing up the two. Seriously though if Ellison has to stump up the cash, he should strategically give it to open source projects where it would be the most benefit to Oracle.
  • Re:No wrongdoing? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by vidarh ( 309115 ) <vidar@hokstad.com> on Friday December 02, 2005 @06:07AM (#14164547) Homepage Journal
    It it's not "nothing" wrong and paying back money. It's "you claim I've done something wrong, and I claim I haven't, but I think it's worth it (for whatever reasons) to accept X as punishment right now if it will make the case go away without wasting either of our times with a protracted court case"

    Of course you'd stand a better chance getting a settlement accepted if you admit wrongdoing, but often what the other party is after is mainly the punishment, and they couldn't care less if you admit doing anything wrong if you're willing to pay.

    One reason for being prepared to take the punishment without accepting wrongdoing may be if you worry that being convicted may leave you open to lawsuits from other parties related to what you'd admit to.

  • See the Nixon pardon (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mangu ( 126918 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @06:31AM (#14164593)
    how can it be "nothing wrong" and paying back money?


    He admits nothing, but other people believe he did something wrong. As Gerald Ford said when he granted Nixon's pardon: "I am compelled to conclude that many months and perhaps more years will have to pass before Richard Nixon could obtain a fair trial by jury", and "To procrastinate, to agonize, and to wait for a more favorable turn of events that may never come or more compelling external pressures that may as well be wrong as right, is itself a decision of sorts"

    .
    For someone like Ellison, paying $100 million is nothing compared to waiting years for a trial, even if he were considered "not guilty" in the end.

  • Larry Versus Martha (Score:3, Interesting)

    by adsl ( 595429 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @11:03AM (#14165682)
    Martha is investiated for "insider trading" and it's judged she did ZNOT do it. But because she lied to a Federal Officer she is now convicted felon and served 6 months in jail. The court here finds Larry is guilty of "insider teading" and he apparently settles w/o a Felony conviction and with no jail time. Doesn't make any sense to me.
  • In fact, she was convicted of claiming to be innocent of insider trading.

    She was innocent of insider trading - at least the charges were dropped - but that didn't give her the right to claim it. You see, by denying it, she was revealing information that affected the price of her company's stock, and she didn't go through the right channels to do it, which is a crime.

  • by nortcele ( 186941 ) on Friday December 02, 2005 @12:30PM (#14166364) Homepage
    This is why reform is needed for class-action lawyer fees. The lawyers need to get a percentage of the actual money the class-action lawsuit participants get. If the lawyers negotiate some crap deal where the class-action results in coupons to the participants, the lawyers should only get fees based on the percentage of coupons used or redeemed. Also, class action should be reserved for egregious acts by corporations with disregard for the safety or health of the public. If a class action suit can be shown to be lawyer greed, it should be tossed. Sorry, got my hackles up a bit... I feel better now.

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