Now Is Not the Time for Vista

narramissic writes "With nearly a month of Vista availability behind us, businesses don't seem to be in any rush to take the leap. An article on ITworld cites two significant reasons for the foot-dragging. First, Microsoft's case-by-case approach to Vista patches, which is leaving some problems unpatched until after the consumer release in January. Second, application (in)compatibility. From the article: 'Some of the applications that still aren't compatible with Vista include IBM Corp.'s Lotus Notes e-mail and collaboration suite; Cisco Systems Inc.'s and Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.'s VPN clients; Intuit Corp.'s accounting software QuickBooks 2006 and earlier versions; and anti-virus (AV) software from Trend Micro Inc.'"

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Right

[Timesprout]

Because we all know that corporations love to throw out their existing infrastructure and redeploy with newly released software.

Notes doesnt work? That is a feature, baby!

[LibertineR]

An OS that wont run Notes should be at the top of every IT manager's list, as far as I'm concerned.

Re:might be lack of exposure to the right people,

[Zeek40]

Yeah, If MS would just bundle some ego stroking audio chat bot with Vista that told those CEOs how great they were all day, it'd be an immediate hit ;)

That's why Vista is ready for launch

[Travoltus]

When nothing except certain M$ software will work with Vista, it's ready to go.

[sarcasm off]

Re:we upgraded

[meringuoid]

Actually our Accounting department is loving the new excel, and our president is pretty excited about the toys in powerpoint.

I pity whoever goes into the next meeting. PHB Powerpoint mindset: "I've got these toys and by God I'm going to use them ALL!"

Weather, not time, is the determining factor...

[Anonymous Coward]

for Vista.

Has Hell frozen over yet? Then no Vista for me, thanks.

Complementary...

[Anonymous Coward]

I have a small client (75 users) and we are on a five year plan for new hardware... it was up in October. We bought new Dell's and Vista Business in November, and rolled them out last week.

In the Ad industry we have to use lots (7) of custom apps for Media, Accounting, and Shipping. We had 2 problems. 1 wasn't the program but the installer didn't detect the correct OS. It was a small app so we just copied it over with its .dlls. The other problem was solved perfectly by running the shortcut in compatibility mode.

As for the users: very happy with Vista and Office 2007. I mean, really happy. I'm sure it helps that they now have big flat screen monitors and faster computers, but we are getting lots of good feedback at the agency.

The OS: We wrote a few custom gadgets to automate a few tacks in about 10 minutes a piece, and people love them. We don't do the indexed search for network shares so people really aren't talking about that, but believe it or not, they love the animations and the "pretty" stuff. We never had a problem with XP crashing or anything so the fact that Vista is stable doesn't really change much for us.

For anyone thinking about Office 2007: It went over huge here, between the ribbon and all the visual additions (especially smart objects). Actually our Accounting department is loving the new excel, and our president is pretty excited about the toys in powerpoint. Word seems to be liked but that is the one we hear least about.

From my perspective: The Vista imaging software and new group policy is awesome. We did the rollout over the weekend, and it went off without a hitch. I'm not really giving MS credit for that, we worked on the image for a few weeks, but we are very happy so far.

Dude... Umm... Sorry to interrupt but there's an express courier from Microsoft at the front desk. He claims he's got a complementary laptop for you.

Re:might be lack of exposure to the right people,

[Corporate Troll]

I remember XP didn't take off for a while, but then was adopted by businesses more and more as execs started having it at home and liking the pretty colors and the bells and whistles.

Yeah, and the funny thing is: once the IT department started deploying XP, they virtually removed all the fancy funny things with group policies.

Re:Notes compatibility

[HazMathew]

Ah, Notes... The first pile of steaming dung I smell in the morning. Sure gets my day going.

Re:Now Is Not the Time for Linux

[harrypelles]

I swear I've seen the parent text here copied-and-pasted into another article. What, do you have the Slashdot Mod-Point Play Book; running it play-by-play?

Re:AV incompatible? So?

[z0idberg]

Not only that, Vista isnt even going to need ANY AV products! Microsoft said so themselves:

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/10/011 4210 [slashdot.org]

I'll be upgrading

[Borland]

Why? Well first of all I'm a masochist: TMI I know. But they suckered me in with the free year long trial of Vista RC1. It's shiny, pretty, and unfinished but it's more than usable.

Plus, I like to experiment with the new features and see what's under the hood. Switch to Gentoo you say? I could, but then I'd have to get my hands gooey at levels that I'd rather remain a mystery (the kernel should remain distant, angry, and invisible like a God).

I'm Microsoft's ideal early adopter: Easily impressed and willing to try new things along pre-arranged paths. Yeah, Apple did most of it before them and others before Apple...but I'm not a communist and don't believe in that hippy crap. Like Sony and consoles, the next generation doesn't arrive until the biggest behemoth in the industry says so. Finally clarity is brought to my world.®

Re:Notes doesnt work? That is a feature, baby!

[LoudMusic]

An OS that wont run Notes should be at the top of every IT manager's list, as far as I'm concerned.

Hallelujah! A reason to upgrade! `Course, AmigaOS would be acceptable for the same reason.

An oldie, but still...

[Vip]

Windows ain't done, 'til Lotus won't run!

Vip

Re:might be lack of exposure to the right people,

[zxnos]

Seems to me that it may also be that CEOs and others who make decisions haven't had the chance to experience it on a new home computer yet. I remember MAC OS hasn't take off yet, but it will be adopted by businesses more and more as execs started having it at home and liking the pretty colors and the bells and whistles. I suspect these decisions aren't based as much on stability as we'd all like to think -- I think a lot of adoption of MAC OSX will happen when powerful people (not necessarily technical people) start wanting some of MAC OSX's fun or pretty stuff at the office. And they just haven't had a chance to find out about it yet.

Re:AV incompatible? So?

[Das Modell]

I've never had a single virus or spyware infection in my life. They're a completely overrated threat.

Re:AV incompatible? So?

[rbochan]

I'd feel about as comfortable as Michael J. Fox playing Operation as I would running Microsoft Windows without anti-virus software.

Re:Right

[FirstTimeCaller]

My son will be getting Vista next year...

Watch it! I'm this close to calling Child Protective Services on you!

Re:Maybe not for *you*.

[skinfitz]

...or 'Crack for VISTA ULTIMATE', ironically.