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Wikileaks — Anonymous Whistle-Blowing 162

too_old_to_be_irate writes to tell us about a site that word got out on before they were ready. Wikileaks aims to be an anonymous and uncensorable repository of leaked documents, posted for commentary by interested parties. It's expected to go live in a month or two. From the site: "Wikileaks is developing an uncensorable version of Wikipedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis. Our primary interests are oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East, but we also expect to be of assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own governments and corporations. We aim for maximum political impact; this means our interface is identical to Wikipedia and usable by non-technical people. We have received over 1.1 million documents so far from dissident communities and anonymous sources."
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Wikileaks — Anonymous Whistle-Blowing

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  • by Noryungi ( 70322 ) on Thursday January 11, 2007 @04:17PM (#17562170) Homepage Journal

    Wikipedia already has a credibility problem, but this?

    Anonymous leaking of materials that may be totally unverified? I can already the giant wooshing sound of lawyers descending on this poor thing for defamation.

    Besides, what's the point of such a site if countries like China and Iran can censor it by building a "Great Firewall" around their little corner of the Internet?

    Oh, and by the way, thanks for posting all of your plans on the Internet before the site even goes live. Dumb script kiddies everywhere are going to blast your poor site as soon as it shows up.
  • by Psionicist ( 561330 ) on Thursday January 11, 2007 @04:37PM (#17562638)
    The Pirate Bay apperantly is: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3589817/ZyprexaKills.t ar.gz [thepiratebay.org]
  • by kharchenko ( 303729 ) on Thursday January 11, 2007 @05:07PM (#17563270)
    I've read through parts of it briefly (skipping a lot). It's quite entertaining. There was an anonymous mailing list about this project. They've talked John Young into being the frontman for the site (domain name registration, basic contact, etc.). After that there's endless self-congratulating discussion about how cool things are going to be. Since there is no real technical discussion shown it appears that they were not in the process of actually developing anything. Although they claim to have a huge number of leaked documents in store already, no evidence of that was given. Instead, this degenerated into overly ambitious and suspect fundrasing effort.
      At that point John Young pointed out that instead of trying to raise millions on empty promises, they should do the actual implementation and work hard for a year or two on a shoe-string budget to prove that they are real. As a sarcastic ploy he suggested that if their goal is to fleece CIA (which is most likely to cough up $5M they're trying to raise), than they should ask for more. Astonishingly enough they took the joke seriously, and said they'll try :)
      And John posted their mailing list discussion to the public (without the real names/addresses, which he said will come next), accusing them of simply being a scam to raise money.
  • abuse of moderation (Score:2, Informative)

    by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday January 11, 2007 @05:47PM (#17564036) Homepage Journal
    1. I believe everything I wrote above.
    2. Trolling is when you say something you don't believe in order to elicit a desired response. Here I am saying something I do believe and don't expect any particular response - although I guess I should have expected the powers-that-be or one of their sheep to mod me down for speaking my mind.

    Perhaps you don't remember this [harpers.org]:

    "People need to be careful what they say," said Donald Rumsfeld.

    Rumsfeld stood up in front of the press in the white house and said that people need to be careful what they say. If you follow the link you can see that this is about allegations of desecration of the Koran by U.S. soldiers. If that wasn't a warning, I don't know WHAT it was. You can find more on that story in the Washington Post [washingtonpost.com]. This was a case where abuse of prisoners (if we adopt their methods, we become them - of course, we already Are them, we just have money so we don't have to use humans as munitions delivery systems) had been reported and Newsweek was threatened into dropping the story.

    If you truly don't believe that this kind of abuse goes on in the USA, then you are part of the problem. Waking up to reality and the fact that a government that will treat other peoples as subhuman doesn't think too much of you either is the first step towards a solution.

  • by Columcille ( 88542 ) * on Thursday January 11, 2007 @05:53PM (#17564154)
    You can and will be hauled off to gitmo for what you write or publish if the powers-that-be deem that it should be so.

    Care to cite examples? In the last couple of years I only recall a couple of cases where journalists were jailed, and it wasn't for what they wrote but for not revealing their sources.

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