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WIPO Creating New IP Rights Over Web Content 118

An anonymous reader writes "The WIPO is currently engaged in negotiating a new treaty on digital IP rights, but they're having trouble agreeing on the particulars. Though the world of YouTube and podcasts seems like a place that 'requires' laws, the WIPO seems confused about what to do about it. From the article: 'The proliferation of low cost video cameras and editing software, higher bandwidth cable, satellite and Internet connections, are creating a highly diverse and dynamic environment for creating, distributing, redistributing and remixing information. To this exciting world the UN's specialized agency for intellectual property wants to impose a new legal regime. The problem is, no one here has a clue what the legal regime should look like.' The U.S. is also pushing for reviving a 1962 treaty (never ratified) that would give the large cable distributors (like Discovery, Sci-fi, Spike, etc) ownership of even public domain content if they carry it. This would be in addition to any rights normally afforded the distributors. "
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WIPO Creating New IP Rights Over Web Content

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  • Public Domain (Score:3, Interesting)

    by TubeSteak ( 669689 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:05PM (#17667832) Journal
    The U.S. is also pushing for reviving a 1962 treaty (never ratified) that would give the large cable distributors (like Discovery, Sci-fi, Spike, etc) ownership of even public domain content if they carry it.
    How does that work?

    Does this mean the material is no longer public domain?

    I can't imagine that would work... since anyone could go back to the original source material and use that.

    Or is this just an attempt to put public proceedings (Senate/Congress sessions for example) into private hands?
  • Was Carl Marx right? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by presidenteloco ( 659168 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:08PM (#17667886)
    Is Intellectual Property a Crime?
  • by TheWoozle ( 984500 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:12PM (#17667986)
    If YouTube, et al have done anything, it's show that a different business model can work: the value is not in production of the material, it's in delivering it.

    Previously, if I had wanted lame videos of punk skateboarders doing tricks, angsty teenagers venting their mixed-up feelings, middle-age housewives boody-popping, etc. I would have had to spend countless hours trolling the murky depths and dark recesses of the Internet to find them. Thanks to YouTube, I have a single, convenient place to satisfy my disgusting and perverse needs.

    Seriously though, can we please stop trying to create artificial scarcity? We don't really need it; TV shows, movies, and music worth paying for are already scarce enough.
  • by zappepcs ( 820751 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:13PM (#17667996) Journal
    while almost everyone thinks its just fine for me to loan a friend a rented DVD before I return it, there are those that think if I share a video on the Internet it should be regulated, taxed, or scrutinized against IP and copyright laws.

    The Internet has changed the world in many significant ways, but it has not changed basic human morals, and won't. I see nothing wrong with sharing things with others, and any regulatory body that wants to change that will find me looking for, and finding, other ways to do so.

    Copyright and IP law as they currently are implemented .. well, they are fscked. No, I don't have a ready example of how to fix them all. I do know that simply wanting to fix things will not do so. Any regulations placed on Internet based services will not work if they fail to pass the 'basic human morals' test.

    Lets say someone in highschool in Chicago makes some wacky video on their pc, and shares it with friends via CD. There is no way to police this sort of content production.

    Now, lets say that they share it with several million of their friends via news groups? Still, not much hope of policing this. Okay, so our content creator now shares it with several million of their friends via YouTube. Suddenly, because of the visibility of the WWW, people think that it should be regulated, scrutinized, and by god, lets punish those evil copyright infringers.

    Human behavior has not changed. The thing that changed is that now more people can more quickly see what others are doing. This doesn't mean that there is more infringement necessarily, only that more people can see what they think is infringement.

    Regulating the viewing mechanism for that content will not stop its production. Result: This is a broken way to try to fix what was not a problem in the first place.

    Additionally, by putting the burden on YouTube, MySpace and others, they are creating a sort of conscripted volunteer police force, which in the end will also fail.

    The only way to fix these infringements is to make them legally not infringements. For many of the same reasons that we should not be fighting a war on drugs http://www.leap.org/ [leap.org], we shouldn't be fighting a war on copyright infringement. Those who fight copyright infringements (**AAs) are simply building sandcastles on the beach at low tide.

    The UN, or any other body does not have enforcement authority, nor will they, UNLESS they decide to change / repeal the overreaching copyright laws that have to date been enacted.
  • by ConfusedSelfHating ( 1000521 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:20PM (#17668132)

    Why is the United States wasting what little good will it has around the world with intellectual property rights issues? Why is the destruction of public domain a top priority? I would think that a potentially nuclear Iran, the Iraq war and global terrorism would take up the time of the diplomats. Are government officials being bought off with cash or sexual favors from aspiring actresses? If the air conditioning/ home heating industry lobbied for international regulations that every building in the world would have to be maintained at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius, it would be crazy. I guess public domain now means "Ready to be taken into the possession of a large corporation".

    My guess is that government regulators don't understand what's going on. They receive their money/blowjobs from the content industry and do as they are told.

  • by Mrs. Grundy ( 680212 ) on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:21PM (#17668180) Homepage
    It is difficult to get behind writing like this:

    UN's specialized agency for intellectual property wants to impose a new legal regime

    I, for one, like living in a society ruled by laws rather than the whims of men. If by 'legal regime' the author means a legal structure in which to resolve disputes, I am all for it. After all, disputes will happen and the law should provide a means to deal with them in a civilized and fair manner. By referring to an attempt to codify our values as a regime we indicate that we are no longer willing to participate in this discourse and abdicate any power we might have to influence the outcome in a way beneficial to us. We shouldn't focus on the fact that there will be laws that may limit what we can do when interacting with other people, but should remember that laws have their uses and abuses and we should try to participate in the process. If we don't I guarantee to you that someone will and that their interests will be considered with a weight proportional to the energy and money they invested in the process. As individuals and groups without great political and economic resources we shouldn't turn out backs on the very idea of law, it's all we have.

  • by argoff ( 142580 ) * on Thursday January 18, 2007 @03:51PM (#17668814)

    Arrogance like this just gets me so angry ...

    Your assertion that you have some "right" .... is just that - an assertion

    Hypocrite, IP "rights" are the only bogus assertion around here.

    ... if a company spends e.g. $1 billion dollars ...

    ... on importing slaves, and then if someone "stole" those slaves by freeing them, then I would say tough shit, that's the punishment you get for imposing false property rights.

    ...IP and copyright protection make sense and have a rational and moral component ...

    Why don't you just way, "well it's OK for the King to choose what people are allowed to say as long as it makes sense and has a rational and moral component". And the appropiate response would be. FU, pull your head out and use the God given brain you were given to take things to their "rational" conclusion.

Suggest you just sit there and wait till life gets easier.

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