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OpenMoko Schedule Announced 165

levell writes "The schedule for the OpenMoko, an open source, Linux-based Neo1973 smart phone was posted to the community mailing list by Sean Moss-Pultz this morning. On Feb 11, free phones will be sent to key community developers and the community websites/wiki/bug tracker will be available. Then on March 11 (the official developer launch) we'll be able to buy an OpenMoko for $350. After allowing some time for innovative, slick software to be created there will be a mass market launch at which point Sean hopes that 'your mom and dad will want one too.'"
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OpenMoko Schedule Announced

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  • FYI (Score:3, Informative)

    by TheSHAD0W ( 258774 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @01:37PM (#17695538) Homepage
    Just FYI, at the moment only Cingular and T-Mobile will be able to support the phone in the US at this time.
  • by GreatBunzinni ( 642500 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @01:38PM (#17695548)

    The website states the following:

    2006.11.7 OpenMoko Announces the World's First Integrated Open Source Mobile Communications Platform at Open Source in Mobile Conference in Amsterdam.

    First one? I beg to differ. Should I point out Trolltech's Qtopia Greenphone [trolltech.com]? I believe it precedes OpenMoko by a considerable notch.

  • Re:Marketing ploy? (Score:4, Informative)

    by levell ( 538346 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:06PM (#17695712) Homepage
    I think you're being overly cynical, the people who are involved in this include people like Harald Welde (of the campaign to stop [gnumonks.org]GPL violations [gpl-violations.org]. I think they genuinely believe in this, they're not just marketing weenies out to make a quick buck.
  • by speculatrix ( 678524 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:29PM (#17695862)
    trolltech have a dual licensing approach; some people are irritated by the idea, perhaps by the fact it is so polarised into basically
    * GPL forever: at the moment you download you choose the GPL path, you can't later decide to make your project non-GPL and pay the license fee to trolltech and go commercial; this would be a PITA to any bedroom startup; however, I wouldn't be surprised if a few stealth startuos *did* bend this rule
    * payware: cough up a license fee for the SDK and support

    if you don't like trolltech's licensing, go write your own gui toolkit! there are other gpl choices, such as opie2, gpe
  • Re:FYI (Score:3, Informative)

    by yelvington ( 8169 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:35PM (#17695894) Homepage
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but your assertion is not precisely correct.

    None of the carriers will "support" a phone you did not buy from them, recently. The general response to any configuration question translates to "go F* yourself." I have an unlocked GSM Windows phone (Voq) and have never been able to get MMS working because T-Mobile will not provide the necessary info.

    On the other hand, an unlocked GSM phone like this one at least gives you a choice of carriers.

    While Cingular/AT&T and T-Mobile effectively account for nearly all of the GSM network coverage in the United States, you can buy access from a number of "mobile virtual network operators" (even 7-11 and Wal-Mart) and get a SIM card that will work in this phone.

    For that matter, any SIM card from a non-US phone company also will work if that company offers U.S. roaming. It would be a dumb way to buy your phone service if you spend all your time in the United States, but it's possible. And if you travel internationally, you can buy a local prepaid SIM card in most countries that will pop right in for cheap local calls.

    You don't get that kind of flexibility from CDMA carriers like Sprint and Verizon, which are notorious for crippling phones in order to charge extra for functionality like moving your photos from your phone to your computer, or changing ring tones.

  • by Svartalf ( 2997 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:37PM (#17695914) Homepage
    The OpenMoko is a GSM phone. The only primary networks using GSM in the US right at the moment are Cingular and T-Mobile. Verizon and Sprint/Nextel are CDMA...
  • Re:FYI - Wrong? (Score:2, Informative)

    by gustaffo ( 598224 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:43PM (#17695954)
    I think that's wrong. From the specifications, it looks like it's a GSM phone (they don't specifically say it's GSM nor do they say which frequencies it's radio supports) from the fact they say it supports GPRS.

    As a result, it should work on *any* of the GSM carriers in the US that support the frequencies it uses. Let's assume for a moment it supports at a minimum 900/1800/1900 (hopefully 850 too) - like most tri-band devices do.

    Take a look here [gsmworld.com]. According to GSM world there are quite a few GSM carriers in the US. That list seems to exclude Unicel, which is actually a fairly large company in it's own right. Most of the carriers do support the 1900mhz band at a minimum though there are a few 850 only carriers.
  • No wifi :( (Score:2, Informative)

    by p80 ( 771195 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @02:56PM (#17696042) Homepage
    The only problem is that there is no wifi and probably won't be for a long time. The openmoko crew refuse to implement it cause there's no chip that comes with open driver as of today and there isn't any on the horizon.

    One of the greatest advantage of having an open phone is so that you can install a SIP phone on it and use it when there's a wifi connection available which is almost everywhere these days (at work, at home, lots of public places...). When there's an open phone that comes out with wifi integrated I'll be the first to get it though.
  • by Qwavel ( 733416 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @03:19PM (#17696194)
    Sounds great, shame about the WiFi.

    Your average consumer might not need WiFi on their phone, but I think it is very important for the slashdot/techie/FLOSS crowd. The main reason is that we want to be able to bypass the cell network whenever possible to avoid paying. WiFi is free and plentiful for me at home, at work, and in many other places, whereas cellular bandwidth is slower and much more expensive. For syncing, downloading music, uploading pictures, and VoIP, WiFi is a requirement for my next phone.
  • by Capt. Beyond ( 179592 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @03:33PM (#17696274)
    I think you missed the community version which is $695. This comes with an SDK and uses a mature and well tested gui environment.
  • by Capt. Beyond ( 179592 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @06:34PM (#17697340)
    The Greenphone is not a consumer mobile phone, it is a reference board made in very limited quantities. It is a device for developers. It comes with a well thought out SDK based on Qt and Qtopia (both very well tested and mature), which makes creating new applications almost trivial.

    $700 is not unheard of in the mobile phone world, anyway
  • Re:Are you sure? (Score:4, Informative)

    by jrumney ( 197329 ) on Saturday January 20, 2007 @07:16PM (#17697602)

    which I think Apple has the patent on.

    Apple does not have any patents on the iphone. They have applied for about 300, but none have been granted yet. Regarding the multitouch interface, if you search the internet, you'll find that research has been going on in this area since the 1980's. At best, Apple might be granted a patent on the specific technology they've used to support multitouch in their touchscreen, but there are several other ways [nyu.edu] to accomplish the same thing, some of which are already [merl.com] available.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21, 2007 @09:19AM (#17701446)
    The funny thing about your comment is that you give the Greenphone's Qtopia as an example of free software in the context of this phone thread.

    Well indeed Qtopia is free, but it's not free phone software, because the GPL edition of Greenphone specifically excludes the telephony components. So, your beloved Qtopia is emasculated by Trolltech licensing into being just a PDA framework, if you want to use free components alone. You have to abandon GPL purity and use their non-GPL telephony interface code to phone out on the device.

    A: Qtopia Open Source Edition [trolltech.com] contains everything that is in the commercial source version, except Safe eXecution Environment (SXE) - the security benefits of a "sandbox" on the device with the benefits of a native application approach - digital rights management (DRM) and telephony components.

    In contrast, OpenMoko on the FIC Neo1973 is 100% an open phone platform, with the telephony entirely under the control of your own or community code, not FIC's --- the phone is managed and programmed through AT/modem-type commands generated by any arbitrary programs you chose to run, or indeed write your own.

    And of course you can run Qtopia on this phone as well ... and then your GPL code can at last benefit from open telephony.

    Since you are the one stressing about GPL purity, OpenMoko should be a big deal for you, whereas Greenphone and Trolltech should be on your blacklist.

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