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Comparison of Working at the 3 Big Search Giants 179

castironwok writes "Finally, everything you've ever wanted to know about being an employee at Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo. Tastyresearch describes his (or her) past few years interning and working at the three companies. Things I didn't know from before: Bill Gates wears old shoes, Google's internal security watches you like a hawk, the office styles of each company, and how to fill your suitcase with Google T-shirts. He calls the few select companies the 'prestigious internship circle', noting 'once you have worked at one, it's a lot easier to get into another'."
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Comparison of Working at the 3 Big Search Giants

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  • Re:big three? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Nanidin ( 729400 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @02:52PM (#18053208)
    Anyone computer illiterate whose default homepage is MSN...
  • by Rycross ( 836649 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:08PM (#18053350)
    More than you would think. Most of the hiring managers I meet consider it very high prestige.
  • by robably ( 1044462 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:12PM (#18053362) Journal
    Or you could look at it from the point of view that "security" has become so pervasive and commonplace in your life that you no longer think it unusual to be stopped 20 times a year...
  • I'll bet! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by eck011219 ( 851729 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:19PM (#18053404)

    'once you have worked at one, it's a lot easier to get into another'

    This doesn't surprise me at all -- I'm sure you're seen as not only good enough to have worked at the other ones, but as a possible wealth of information about the workings of the others. And you're cheaper and lower-profile than hiring away the competition's bigger fish.
  • by Dutch Gun ( 899105 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:22PM (#18053436)

    Apparently the answer to "Can you tell me what was the most difficult bug you faced while programming and what you did to resolve it?" isn't "My programs don't have bugs."
    Too funny. I think I really started to mature as a programmer when I realized that I actually *don't* know all the answers, that *everyone* makes mistakes, and it's foolish to let pride get in the way of asking someone for help or admitting you had absolutely no clue about something (instead of trying to bluff your way through).

  • by robably ( 1044462 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:26PM (#18053460) Journal

    How many times do you think you'd be stopped walking around NSA without a badge?
    If they were any good, then just once.
  • Re:I'll bet! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Onan ( 25162 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @03:57PM (#18053666)
    I've only worked for two of the three (Yahoo to Google), but as far as I've seen _nobody_ wants you to disclose the inner workings of the others to them. This true on at least three levels that come to mind:

    - The competitive advantage of knowing about other companies' proprietary information is dwarfed by the liability of acquiring that information. Especially given that you'd be acquiring them through someone who had proven they could not be trusted to keep a secret.

    - At least Google has the (mostly deserved) hubris to assume that their own solutions to problems will tend to be as good as or better than other companies' solutions. So while other solutions may be academically interesting, they generally won't be useful.

    - Lastly and most significantly, it's unethical. And yes, every person with whom I've worked at either company would find this alone to be reason enough to refrain, even if it did grant a competitive advantage.

    Really, everyone would rather just hire competent, trustworthy people who will do their actual job well and with appropriate discretion. No one is looking for a stool pigeon.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 17, 2007 @04:21PM (#18053864)

    That's because you don't meet the ones who circular file your resume and never call you back.

  • Comment removed (Score:3, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @04:48PM (#18054066)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 17, 2007 @05:52PM (#18054614)
    I think that IDs give a false sense of security: here is why...

    I did a little experiment at my old job that required an ID be displayed...I just wore it backwards...all that was on the back was a company logo and RFID chip to open the main door and the data center: never once did security ask to see the picture and credentials that I was concealing...

    Our High school (2000-2004) made us wear IDs, the kids from the catholic school down the street would use IDs from the previous year or IDs that others had "lost" to sneak in and at lunch with their friends at our local public school...almost never getting busted. even by random ID checks that the lunch cashiers did.

    The place I work now doesn't have IDs, just a magnetic card that you swipe to get in the secure doors after hours...there is not a security problem because everyone knows enough other people that if you cant answer a few questions in a casual conversation, you will be busted in 10 minutes...questions like "new here? welcome aboard, what position are you filling?" and "oh, who manages that dept?"...that is the place where I have felt the SAFEST...
  • Sounds Terrible (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nate nice ( 672391 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @06:02PM (#18054696) Journal
    These places sound great in theory but the more you think about it, the more phony and limiting they become.

    Consider that they provide all of these resources to keep you on their campus as long as possible. Their entire goal is to squeeze as much work out of you they can while prolonging the time it will take you to burn out. They create their own small community you're expected to be a part of at almost all times.

    Maybe I'm in the minority but my work isn't my life. I enjoy what I do but I don't stay at the office any long than I have to. I have friends to see, places to go and personal endeavors to get to that don't involve my company. I don't want my recreational activities to be sponsored by or provided by my company. I'm not sure I want to work in a place that "optionally" provides these facilities as they become expectations of the employees and those that shun them become outcast by their coworkers.

    It's like if you don't participate in as many work related activities as possible, you'll alienate yourself and not be part of the brainwashed masses at your company of choice.

    Maybe I'm old fashioned but I get to the office, I do my job and after about 8 hours or so I go on my way and do whatever I want to do. I get lunch with some friends at places of our choice. I'll even participate in work related and non-work related recreational activities with people. But it's not a way of life.

    I don't know, something about working for a company that has created facilities and devices to keep you occupied under their roof for as long as possible seems a little fishy. I don't trust companies like this. They don't have your best interest's in mind, like most companies, but try and create diversions from this. Many young geeks end up wasting their youth in this corporate socialism.

  • by noidentity ( 188756 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @06:41PM (#18055036)
    More advantages of two smaller monitors (hypothetical, as I only use one CRT monitor):
    * If one fails, you still have the other in the meantime.
    * You can upgrade them separately
    * If you ever need another monitor for another machine, you have it
    * You can turn one off if you're doing light work
    * Smaller flat-panels are probably cheaper per square inch, because of a lower defect rate and higher demand (more volume of product)
  • Re:big three? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by westlake ( 615356 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @07:05PM (#18055244)
    It amazes me that within just a few years, an ad-sponsored website (yes, that's all google is) could reach half of Microsoft's size!

    what goes up like a rocket can come down like a rocket.

  • Re:So (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jrldh2 ( 927029 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @07:07PM (#18055256)
    You mean envy? No. But I realize that those freebies are there to keep you at work. I guess I am getting old but I am just not impressed by that stuff anymore. I was when I was in my 20ies and early 30ies. Time flies and I am super glad that I don't have a job that consumes me and my life. Reading this story, I just got the vibes of a super giddy 20 year old interning at prestigious workplaces who probably will end up giving way to much time of his/her life to a corporation while lifes passes by him/her. It is very telling that Google pays little and has obnoxious security. Where I work, security consists of the friendly receptionist and not of some uniformed drones that make it clear that you are not to be trusted. Do no evil. Just like fair and balanced. Cheap words.
  • by toddestan ( 632714 ) on Saturday February 17, 2007 @10:24PM (#18056580)
    *Also, you can throw one of them on a second computer by a KVM (or by using the multiple input capabilities of some monitors) and view the output of two computers at once.
    *You can have one be a CRT and other be an LCD and get the best of both worlds.

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