BitTorrent Legit Service Launches 158
The launch of the BitTorrent Entertainment Network came out today; there's the AP write-up, which is decent enough but the interview with Bram about it is more interesting. Tangentially, the the education of lawmakers on video DRM is an interesting countweight to all this.
Limited selection? (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't see any: Stargate (SG-1 or Atlantis), House M.D., the only Star Trek is movie 7,no American Idol episodes..
So when can I buy the crap I actually want?
I predict dissapointment (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:WMP only??? (Score:3, Insightful)
One should always obey the law, no matter how idiotic, obscene, corrupt and morally bankrupt, I presume?
Or not.
Quality? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:WMP only??? (Score:2, Insightful)
If you live in a democratic country, then yes. The whole point of democracy is to give the lawmakers legitimacy. Of course, you are free to believe that the democratic process in your country is not fit for purpose (I do of my country)...
Re:Teach a person how to fish... (Score:3, Insightful)
And, from this one [slashdot.org]:
Is there a box I can un-check somewhere in the preferences so I don't have to look at messages that contain the phrase "oh noes?"
Selling content in the modern world. (Score:4, Insightful)
This comes up every time there's a thread about the new "legit" BitTorrent service. I don't think it's possible. If this service attracts enough attention, the DRM is going to be bypassed. I doubt it's even going to be that hard, because the nature of P2P services makes end-to-end DRM impossible. So not only do you have the inherent flaws in the DRM system you choose, but you also have an inherent incompatibility between the DRM (which makes every user's file different) and P2P distribution, which depends on many users wanting files that are bit-for-bit identical with each other.
There's no good way to do both. They can layer on the encryption but it's nothing but turd polish; the data that's coming down the wire from the other clients has to be encrypted on a non-per-user basis (perhaps a per-file basis), and then the application of the per-user DRM needs to be done in the client. Which means the layer of encryption that presumably protected it in transit needs to be removed. So if you can play spot-the-key, and grab the per-file key as the client program decrypts it in preparation for applying the per-user DRM encryption, you can get a key that lets everyone decrypt the file.
In short, you cannot sell content via a service like this. Not going to happen in the long run, I think. What you probably could do, is sell access to the network, where the value is in the subscription to the content and not in the content itself per se. (Of course the movie studios would hate that, since they want to think of each movie "copy" sold as a revenue source.)
Looking forward, the future of services is to market the services and the access, rather than the content. Digitization and the resulting ease of copying makes it nearly impossible to sell pieces of information as distinct products, like aspirin tablets, in the same way that the content producers have grown used to. The game is up, it's just not going to work any more; they're fighting against inherent problems with DRM, inherent problems with P2P distribution, and inherent problems with the nonconservative nature of information.
However, what you can sell, is the access to a large repository or service which lets you access a lot of information in an organized and reliable manner. That represents a value to the customer, above and beyond just getting ahold of the movies/books/articles/whatever themselves. If a customer just wants to watch a single movie, say Pirates of the Caribbean, they can just go download a pirated copy. They are always going to be able to go and download a pirated copy. As long as the studios and "legit" alternatives mess around with DRM, it is always going to be easier for them to go download a pirated copy. However, what the studios could sell, would be instantaneous access to all the films ever made by Hollywood in the past century. Doing that -- putting together the database, organizing everything, providing a method of distribution, etc. -- is a value that's separate from the movies themselves, and the organization and logistics aren't readily copied. That wouldn't even require DRM; it wouldn't be practical for an end-user to copy more than a tiny fraction of the available material, so there's no risk. It's like a cable company and your VCR: the amount of content you can tape is never going to compete with the amount of content that's being pushed down to you all the time (I'd need to have 600+ VCRs running continuously in order to capture what Comcast pushes to me). Without DRM, you can use P2P to distribute without layers of useless encryption. To monetize it, you sell access to the network (the network is managed by a central server that tells clients where seeds and other clients are -- you don't pay, it doesn't tell you).
People don't want to buy content, they want to buy access to streams of content; they don't want to buy data, they want access to repositories of data that contain more stuff than t
Re:I predict dissapointment (Score:4, Insightful)
Without having tried the service, I'm guessing that for the same amount of money ($4) and less time, I could drive (or bike) to the video store, rent a DVD and get home and be watching it in less time than it would take to download - if this was a new release I would have 48 hours to watch - if it was not a new release I would have a week to watch it.
Oh yeah - I could watch it on any TV to which I could hook up a $30 DVD player.
If I watched 5 movies per month, a blockbuster online subscription would be much cheaper and allow me to watch many more movies for the same effort (pointing and clicking) and would not require my to have a broadband internet access at my house (which I do have, but many don't).
I highly doubt that the quality of the downloadable movies is higher than that of a DVD, and I would expect that it is actually inferior to the quality of a DVD.
I am supposed to be happy with paying the same amount of money for a lower quality less convenient option than I already have?
I think a nickel a pop would be a bit too cheap for what they are offering, but I think that $1/download would probably still be too costly for what you get.
What I want in digital downloads (Score:4, Insightful)
For rented items, I'm willing to accept time- and device-restrictions. If I rent a DVD from NetFlix, I don't expect to play it on anything but a DVD player. I expect to pay no more than I would at a video store or DVD-rental-by-mail service for a similar product for a similar rental period.
The advantages of a well-done digital rental service are that when ordering, I can
It's the service not the content. (Score:3, Insightful)
The value provided in a hypothetical P2P service offered by the movie theaters is greater than just the content that it provides. It's about having all that content right there, waiting for you, with a predictable quality, all nicely sorted and reviewed, perhaps recommended to you by a nice Amazon or NetFlix-like smart system.
The value is in the service, in the aggregation, organization, and presentation of the data, not in the data itself.
Think of it like a newsfeed or wire service. You can get most of the same information elsewhere, but what you pay for is the constant feed of new information, that's tailored to your needs, in a consistent format and with some guarantee (hopefully) of minimum quality.
The movie studios are sitting on top of a gold mine in their back catalogs. Even though the value of each movie in the catalog might be low, and might not get many downloads, they would be able to advertise to customers that they'd have access to a vast repository of movies (anyone remember that commercial for one of the big telcos -- I think it was Lucent -- where a guy is standing in a seedy hotel talking to the clerk, and asks what they have on cable, and the clerk says 'every movie ever made'?) without screwing around with shady overseas sites or downloading a film only to find out afterwards that it's a shitty screener, or has foreign subtitles, etc. That service would have value, which people would pay to subscribe to, particularly if the movies themselves didn't have DRM and there wasn't an obvious lock-in. People would pay, and keep paying, for the same reason they pay for NetFlix and the Internet in general -- once you've drunk from a really fat pipe and seen what it's like to have instant access to vast amounts of info, it's tough to ever go back.