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Prescription Meds For Vista Sleep Disorder 144

Arnold O'Connor writes "NeoSmart Technologies has compiled a list of hotfixes and patches provided by Microsoft for Windows Vista that address a large number of issues related to waking/resuming a Vista PC (both x86 and x64) from sleep or hibernation. Sleep-related disorders have plagued Vista since its release, though they were not present in earlier betas. Most of these fixes are due to be included in Windows Vista SP1 — codenamed Fiji."
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Prescription Meds For Vista Sleep Disorder

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  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) * on Sunday March 11, 2007 @08:56AM (#18306996)
    When will they learn that Microsoft has a very bad Beta Testing Routine.

    First they have people pay them to be Beta Testers (for the privilege of being able to use the OS before the general public, and being those jerks who put 3 years of MS Vista experience on their resume). This doesn't attract people who want to thoroughly test the product, this only attracts people who think it is still the 1990s and wants to inflate their resume. So if they did report any bugs or problems it was probably for more minor things or the most major things. Sleep Problems are kinda in the middle annoying but not enough to put a bug report on.

    Second poor response from my when bug testers do report a bug. Either they state that it isn't important or the conditions to get it are to off. In contrast I remember putting a bug in for Mozilla years back for an obscure problem on sizing the app across multiple displays of different resolutions. They weren't able to fix it quickly but they kept track of it until it was fixed.

    Third Beta Testing is not used as much for Bug Testing but for product evaluation. It is used to see if the product is liked by the general population not as a method of fixing problems. This creates the problem 2 ways because Microsoft Beta Testers are of the following.
    1. Love MS so much that they like everything that it does no matter how crappy it is, or make excuses for it problems (Don't get me wrong there are these type of people for every OS)

    2. Wants to keep their Resume up to spec to keep in demand of stupid employers so they can have 3 years of Vista Experience. They don't want to report bugs or difficult to use problems because it gives them the advantage over people who just started using production Vista.

    3. College Students/Professors mostly because they have extra time during the day to research these things. This group is most likely to report problems and give feedback. But that is only one segment of of the user base. And most college students and professors don't use the sleep options as much because they are on Campus which pays their electricity bills.
  • Re:Problems? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by sirf ( 799191 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @09:00AM (#18307012)
    I've never been in a car accident and neither have any of my friends as far as I know, but I still don't doubt their existence. Requiring seat belts is pure FUD.
  • Vista And The Hype (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Sukhbir ( 961063 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @09:01AM (#18307018)
    Frankly speaking I still can't understand the hype behind Vista. I mean its OK. Nothing out of this world and definitely not WOW.
  • Re:Problems? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by dreamchaser ( 49529 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @09:24AM (#18307096) Homepage Journal
    Bad analogy. A better one would be a comparison to car recalls. There are two pending for mine but I haven't had the problem (they are minor ones, nothing saftey related)so I keep putting it off. That doesn't mean the design problem doesn't exist; just that it hasn't affected me.
  • by suv4x4 ( 956391 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @10:13AM (#18307334)
    I'm not even considering jumping ship to Vista until the first SP is out (XP works beautifully for me).

    Exactly the same. Especially since IE7 is more or less the same for me as a webdev, I can test all of my stuff on XP.

    And we gotta realize: early adotpers always get stuffed with higher prices and lower quality. It's just the way things are, even if the product is developed under most stringent quality requirements, a bunch of undetected defects will be known soon after a wide launch.

    The only thing that bothers me here is that on many consumer offers, companies FORCE you to get OEM Vista with a new PC. This early after launch, and with so many known flaws, how could you possibly require your customers to buy Vista PC when XP is much better right now?!

    Do you have such experiences yourself? How easy it is to get a "downgrade" and in which hardware vendors it's easiest to do so?
  • Implication? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by twitter ( 104583 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @10:48AM (#18307530) Homepage Journal

    The implication is that it's a far more widespread problem than it is.

    I don't know why anyone would think a problem would be common in a monoculture OS, do you?

    You're right about it not being widespread. Vista's not selling. How's that for FUD?

    There's a massive conspiracy to not purchase Vista! It's kind of like the one I launched against SCO, the infamous Distributed Lack of Purchasing (DLoP) attack. It's all the FUDster's fault. It has nothing to do with the thing taking six years to get here and sucking on arrival. You know, people having done just fine without it for the better part of a decade thinking they don't need a DRM downgrade. No, it's just the wingnuts keeping the man down.

  • by Yvanhoe ( 564877 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @10:57AM (#18307572) Journal
    2000 used to work beautifully for me, I never considered to jump the ship to XP. Then I had to buy a laptop (from Dell)... Your turn will come. I installed a debian on it but still, somewhere in the price, I have bought XP somewhere.
  • by tuxlove ( 316502 ) on Sunday March 11, 2007 @09:07PM (#18311578)
    The sleep problems that plague Macbooks take the cake. When you shut the lid, it's a crapshoot whether or not it will actually shut down at all. And you have to wait about a minute to find out, because it spends that long dumping RAM to disk for some twisted reason (I know the reason, so no flames. It's just that it's a lame reason.) I don't know how many times I've shut the lid and stuffed it in my pack, only to find that the damn thing has been running for an hour full tilt in a closed space. It's so hot it can't be touched without pain when this happens.

    This is just about the lamest thing about Macs. And it's been this way a long time. I finally had to disable the safe sleep functionality, which means you can't swap batteries w/o losing state. And they don't make it easy to do this. A small price to pay for not frying your computer, though. Does Vista do anything this lame? Probably not.

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