Gnome 2.18 Released

xdancergirlx writes "Gnome 2.18 was released today (on time as usual). Detailed release notes are available. Nothing revolutionary in this release but definitely some nice new features, bug fixes, and improvements."

Re:Priorities

[kurtmckee]

> Good thing we've got our priorities straight.

It's a problem of manpower. My understanding is that there was a sudden and unexpected number of Gnome documentation people who were unable to contribute as they have in the past, which is what prompted this post by Quim Gil [desdeamericaconamor.org] calling for help.

Re:Did they include...

[muszek]

AFAIR they haven't, because they were submitted after the feature freeze (or some other kind of a freeze). Don't quote me on that, my memory is a tricy thing.

Re:I can't feel any responsiveness improvements.

[Anonymous Coward]

Bug reports welcome. :-)

Re:Scroll Wheel

[muszek]

System -> Preferences -> Mouse
I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 with Gnome 2.16

Re:That's Nice

[Anonymous Coward]

A, mostly because different programs use different data models. It's not impossible, at least not in a limited way, but it would hinge more upon app developers than the desktop environment.

B, because machine image recognition is an area of tricky tricky research and requires serious computational power. Note that spammers have yet to defeat the wonky text + squiggly lines test for posting on slashdot. And thats just OCR. (While people with very limited intellectual capacity seems to make it through in hoards ;)

C, same as above. Pandora used human experts to classify the music.

Re:It has nearly caught up to KDE.........

[SirTalon42]

"KWallet appears to be closer to the gnome password manager than the newer gpg management feature. Since I removed KDE from my system a year and a half ago, I cannot verify this."

Sounds like you're looking for KGpg then.

Re:That's Nice

[dduardo]

1983: Apple Lisa [wikipedia.org]

Re:On time as usual...

[davydmadeley]

It's a pretty good reason to be late. You wouldn't want to discover that someone had compromised the source tree and left something nasty behind, better to be safe than sorry. It's the only time it has ever been late, and for what it's worth, it was ready to ship on time.

Re:Did they include...

[Daemonik]

2) That Linus uses GNOME and gripes about it instead of just using what he likes. Isn't the entire point of the open source ecosystem to give the user choices? Linus can hardly bitch if he doesn't bother to use an alternative. 2a) Or (even worse) he uses KDE but chooses to go out of his way to bitch at some other open source project.

Actually, Linus uses and prefers KDE but was raked over the coals for publicly stating that was his preference because of what he saw as flaws in GNOME. It was the GNOME groups complaints about his position and their general "You don't even contribute to GNOME" attitude that pushed him to start submitting patches.

Re:I can't feel any responsiveness improvements.

[mr_sas]

There's one mono program in the default install (tomboy) and it's not running by default.

Re:I can't feel any responsiveness improvements.

[disasm]

regular GTK doesn't count; you can run that on KDE without installing gnome

You're missing the point of the relationship between GTK and Gnome. Yes, a while back a lot of the important parts of the toolkit were gnome only (printers/druids/etc...), and at that time, gnucash was dependent on Gnome, but now a lot of that essential stuff is being moved into GTK2. This is a good thing (tm). Applications should be built around a toolkit, and not a window manager/desktop. The point of the window manager/desktop is to do just that, manage windows, and if you're weird and like having icons on your desktop, manage those to. The Toolkits are development interfaces. No sane person would learn all the ins and outs of their desktop's API to write a program. That's the problem we non-KDE users have with KDE. Every useful app built around KDE requires KDE (rather than just using a qt toolkit). You can't blame gnome for the 100's of programmers that write good software by not using desktops API's. The greatest advantage about GTK apps is if someone doesn't like the gnome desktop, they can ditch it for fluxbox or xfce which are also gtk based and run the same apps without any of the overhead of the desktop.

But for the rest, KDE owns. KDE has amarok, k3b, and konqueror, all three of which are outstanding in their respective fields. And they're always talking about how KOffice 2 is going to replace OO.O and gimp.

I personally only like k3b out of that list. Amarok and Konqueror drive me nuts every time I have to use them. K3B is a great solid app from a functional point of view. It's just a shame they didn't write it using GTK.