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Digital Watchdogs Widen Anti-Piracy War 119

An anonymous reader writes "The New York Times is covering a new focus by companies like Warner Bros. on consumer attitudes towards media consumption. The last few years have seen media companies concentrating on pirated materials sold in marketplaces and downloaded online. Increasingly, the expectation of content for free is what is worrying these same companies. 'Missteps made today could have grave consequences for the future, particularly when it comes to consumers' willingness to pay for movies and television shows online ... Warner and other entertainment companies are moving cautiously ahead, but their interests are divided. All want to share their content online with consumers but are, at the same time, imposing constraints that risk alienating a younger, Web-oriented audience.'"
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Digital Watchdogs Widen Anti-Piracy War

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  • by jkrise ( 535370 ) on Monday April 02, 2007 @06:56AM (#18571617) Journal
    They're essentially claiming that most of their audience don't know that it costs money to produce movies, or music, or software -- that people will come to "expect" such content for free.

    So how come these knowledgeable content providers are providing Free Rootkits that cost lots of money to produce? Customers aren't stupid - they don't mind paying fair price for their CDs - they just hate all these Encumbrances, and being made to jump through hoops, and being spied upon like criminals.
  • by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Monday April 02, 2007 @06:56AM (#18571619) Homepage Journal

    TFA:

    Warner and other entertainment companies are moving cautiously ahead, but their interests are divided. All want to share their content online with consumers but are, at the same time, imposing constraints that risk alienating a younger, Web-oriented audience.

    Mention of the younger, Web-oriented audience tries to dismiss the shift to online content as a fad for young people. In my house we don't bother with TV any more. My wife and I are both over 40. Our son is 5. We have three laptops, broadband and wifi. A lot of our entertainment (news + movies and music) comes down the line, and some movies we rent from the video shop.

    Warner could put the video shop out of business if they let me get movies on bittorrent. If they make it cheap enough to download when I want to watch, as opposed to keeping a copy and watching it later, then it won't get pirated much because I would have to keep the stuff around, cluttering up my system.

  • Re:Gem comment (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Whiney Mac Fanboy ( 963289 ) * <whineymacfanboy@gmail.com> on Monday April 02, 2007 @07:08AM (#18571657) Homepage Journal
    And what about this?

    "We were criticized for not being aggressive enough," she said. "At the same time, we can't be faulted for being radical in our approach."
    Uuuuuh? Not agressive enough?
  • Re:Not new (Score:4, Interesting)

    by cliffski ( 65094 ) on Monday April 02, 2007 @08:02AM (#18571895) Homepage
    No, it costs millions to make movies because the rendering farms used by pixar arent cheap. having 500 extras in period costumes in a built-from scratch set isn't cheap. Hiring the best experts in cinematography, lighting, editing, costume and set design is not cheap. This stuf is tehcnically hard. Copare LOTR to a you-tube vid. that is the difference.

    Movies arent knocked up in 10 minutes, have you never watched a behind the scenes program on how modern movies are made?
    If you think you can do it better, cheaper, go do it! Blair witch did exactly that. There is no law preventing you creating your own IP tommorow. In fact, the harry potter novels showed how Billion dollar IP can be created by a single person with just a laptop. Go do it, write the next lord of the rings, or the next harry potter, there is NO law to stop you doing so.

    We have a whole generation of people who think that copying a movie is the same as making one. How on earth do you expect that to be good for the creation of new entertainment?

    The funny thing is, the pirates who are always posting download links to movies get VERY upset if people don't 'thank them for their work' (by which they mean the uploading to a warez site. Ironic, given their flagrant dismissal of the efforts of the hundreds of scriptwriters, editors, actors, set designers, carpenters, painters and model builders who make the actual movie. There is never any thanks (by way of actually buying the movie) handed their way.
  • movies will still be made. they just won't have a budget of $100 million. and they will be just as good, and just as entertaining: when was the last time you saw a movie that cost $100 million and put you to sleep? how about a movie that cost $10,000 and rivvetted your attention?

    amount spent != quality

    no one loses in the readjusting financial dynamics of the media world except anyone expecting to spend and/ or make a lot of money making movies. and that's what this entire ip fight is all about: the "right" of some assholes in hollywood to rake in and lay out big bucks. it's not about morality, it's not about right or wrong, it's not about criminality, the only thing going on with drm is "hey, where's my cash?"

    guess what hollywood studio asshole: you don't deserve to make cash anymore. the internet came, it destroyed your business model. that's the beginning, and end, of this entire story. deal with it. the golden age is over. go ask the aztec and incan royalty if it was fair some spanish guys showed up in some fancy boats with some fancy boomsticks and some fancy turtle shell hard shiny clothing and destroyed their empires. history happened. because the incan and aztec nobility didn't like what was happening didn't change the fact they lost their empires nonetheless

    same with you hollywood assholes: technological progress is being made. you lose. nothing is going to change that. adjust to your lower importance and less income. because us, the consumer, we're certianly not going to suffer for your lowered sense of entitlement, no matter how much you want us to and tyr to make us

    movies will still be made. all that will happen in that hollywood as it is, a giant orgy of cash, will die

    good fucking riddance. we don't need you. you need us

    never forget that hollywood

  • by 4D6963 ( 933028 ) on Monday April 02, 2007 @09:49AM (#18572855)

    "I think it is ok for authors (please let's not call them "creators", they are not gods) to ask for money for copies of their works (please let's not devalue these works by calling them "content" ..."

    Well, not our fucking problem, that's something between them and whatever media will broadcast their works. And that still doesn't mean we (the viewers) have to pull a dime out of our pockets.

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