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Top 10 Firefox Extensions to Avoid 538

jcatcw writes "First there were the 20 must-have Firefox Extension and ensuing Slashdot discussion. Now Computerworld has the top 10 to avoid. For example, NoScript, which does make Firefox safer, but isn't worth the hassle, Or, VideoDownloader for slow downloads, when it works at all. Then there's Greasemonkey — on both lists."
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Top 10 Firefox Extensions to Avoid

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  • by A beautiful mind ( 821714 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:05PM (#18676879)

    For example, NoScript, which does make Firefox safer, but isn't worth the hassle Says who?
  • Sure (Score:5, Insightful)

    by utlemming ( 654269 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:06PM (#18676893) Homepage
    Wow, that was the most biased article that I have read in a long time. The summary, for those that didn't RTFA, they pretty much say avoid all the things that make a web master's life difficult; it was from a website perspective and not from the user. Anyhow, it is not worth the read and definitely is not news.
  • here's the tell... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Naurgrim ( 516378 ) <naurgrim@karn.org> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:06PM (#18676899) Homepage

    They're just pissed that NoScript and AdBlock knock down their revenue stream.

    "...while continuing to support the sites we love by allowing most ads to appear."

    Bzzt - sorry. I chose to not see ads.

  • by WarwickRyan ( 780794 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:06PM (#18676901)
    Adblock is bad because it makes their site readable?

    NoScript bad because it stops nasty/naughty javascript?

    PDF download bad because it stops embedded PDFs breaking your system (but also stops hacked tracking links from working)?

    TrackMeNot because it stops you being tracked and wastes bandwidth?

    I'd suggest the only waste of bandwidth their is their site!
  • by Gr8Apes ( 679165 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:10PM (#18676969)
    No kidding. This article should be renamed:

    What users need to do to maximize our cashflow.

  • by frdmfghtr ( 603968 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:12PM (#18677001)
    FTA:

    Does NoScript make Firefox safer? Sure. Is it worth the hassle? No. For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks, but for the most part, it is totally unwarranted unless you're sending and receiving sensitive data. Most typical Web surfers who install this extension remove it after the novelty wears off.

    Paranoia is not "cool among Web geeks,", it's an unfortunate necessity when wandering the jungle that is the World Wide Web. How many times do we hear about exploits using JavaScript? Too often, in my mind's eye. If a particular site that you trust needs JavaScript to run, then whitelist it, even if just temporarily, with two mouse clicks.

    I don't call it "paranoid," I call it "due caution" and it is, in fact, worth the minor hassle.
  • by Excelcia ( 906188 ) <slashdot@excelcia.ca> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:14PM (#18677033) Homepage Journal

    But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?
    If everyone who didn't want to see ads blocked them, then the ads that were seen would have more value because they would be seen by people who wanted to see them. Pushing an ad on someone who doesn't want to see it is, what, going to suddenly make that person buy something?

    I freely admit I block every ad I can. If I'm going to buy something, I'll actively go looking for it. I resent people telling me that I'm damaging them by not displaying their ads on my PC. Your ads are valueless when displayed on my PC anyway, so why should I expose myself to them? The ad industry has not endeared itself to the internet community. They have only themselves to blame for people wanting to block them.
  • by emor8t ( 1033068 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:16PM (#18677069)
    ....from TFA

    Adblock and Adblock Plus

    Obviously, we have some bias when it comes to ad-blocking extensions, as Computerworld is an ad-supported site. We also understand that these are very popular extensions. But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?

    We'll be the first to admit that there are some horribly annoying ads out there. (Buzzing bee, anyone?) But we prefer using Nuke Anything Enhanced to zap the annoying ads while continuing to support the sites we love by allowing most ads to appear.


    What a crock of crap! Pure nonsense, to suggest that a extension is worthless to users because it takes away from your revenue is just showcasing blatant bias. Come of your high horse (if you ever had one)


    ....from AFA.. "Why Firefox has lost it's mojo"

    Worse yet, in the intervening time, Internet Explorer caught up. Its tabbed browsing is now superior to Firefox's, for example, and it added plenty of new features, such as anti-phishing capabilities (which Firefox also has). Firefox is no longer the better browser; its extensions and add-ons are superior, but that's about it.

    IE's tabbing is superior? Says who? Based on What? The author dismisses extensions like yesterdays news, when they wrote a story about the top 20 and 10 worst? Besides that, extensions are a key and valuable component to FF.

    Compuworld is on the MS bank roll?
  • by voice_of_all_reason ( 926702 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:18PM (#18677115)
    It derides fasterfox for wasting bandwidth (a genuine concern), videodownloader on spurious speed/usage claims, and adblock specifically by saying "where would the web be if everyone blocked ads."

    This news source is not objective and is, therefore, made of Fail.
  • Fasterfox (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SevenHands ( 984677 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:19PM (#18677131)
    How about a plugin that fetches all subsequent pages of articles and condenses into a single webpage so a user doesn't have to follow five page links to read the whole article.
  • by fraudrogic ( 562826 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:19PM (#18677135)
    Adblock and Adblock Plus
    Obviously, we have some bias when it comes to ad-blocking extensions.......But if everyone blocked ads, how would sites such as ours continue to offer content free of charge?


    You know, I can give them the same answer I would for a dvr skipping commercials: Because I can and I will, that's why I use Adblock Plus. Its fantastic and does it's job. I despise commercials and ads. I'm sorry it creates revenue for you but that's not my problem. Are they really asking us to deliberately look at ads just for their financial benefit? You either need to be witty/interesting/funny or trick me into seeing your ad, you don't get my eyeballs that easily. I would like to seek products that I want and that's the point in which I would like relevant products to come and seek me. Not randomly. If ads work and create revenue, great. But don't tell us to allow personal annoyances for your financieal gain.
    As for their content being "free" because of ads. Well, if they made me register and pay for their content, what are the chances I would (hint: 0%). So what we end up with is this technical cat and mouse game. Hopefully consumers win and we don't end up in the universe of Minority Report.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:19PM (#18677145)
    >>Bzzt - sorry. I chose to not see ads.

    Then don't view sites that have ads!

    If you block the ads then use the site anyway, you're just freeloading.
  • by Aladrin ( 926209 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:20PM (#18677149)
    I avoided installing NoScript for a LONG time because it -is- truly a hassle. (Actually, I had it, and removed it within a few days.) I finally installed it the other day to stay because of the Ajax vulnerability found where sites could cross-site-script and view information from other sites that I'd logged into. The fact that this is not only possible, but possible on multiple browsers... That's scary. So NoScript stays now.

    It's a heck of a lot easier than turning off JS altogether, which is the only acceptable alternative. In addition, it helps protect against future hacks that are found as well.
  • by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:22PM (#18677199) Journal
    Exactly, you only have to whitelist a site once. And it takes all of 2 seconds. Annoying scripts however, will fuck with you every time you visit a site. It's not long until the benefits manifest. And since we tend to spend most of our time on sites we've been before, it's really pretty rare that I have to whitelist anything.

    In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to deal with client side scripting at all. It's inconvenient, dangerous, and downright impolite. If you want me to see your page, do your processing on YOUR computer. Until then, noscript will have to do.
  • by WarwickRyan ( 780794 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:26PM (#18677255)
    You always need to code to the lowest common denominator, which'll be a browser without Javascript. At the very least popup a message about it.

    As for a site broken by Adblock: how about not using horribly intrusive ads? They don't work except maybe with the moron element.
  • by StormReaver ( 59959 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:26PM (#18677261)
    "And don't forget -- gotta navigate all 4 pages for maximum impressions!"

    You hit on one of my pet peeves -- web sites that break a single article into multiple pages. I rarely go beyond the first page, and I only read the first page of this self-serving article. If I knew ahead of time that this was one of those articles, I would have skipped it entirely. Maybe a [WARNING: multiple pages] heads-up is warranted on future Slashdot postings.
  • by jfengel ( 409917 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:30PM (#18677323) Homepage Journal
    There are good uses of JavaScript. Google uses it pretty well; I use Google Maps and GMail continually. The latter really doesn't NEED JavaScript, but it does add some nice features (like the inline autocomplete for addresses.)

    But it's a lot of rope for a web site to hang itself with, and more often than not it's evil.
  • by Mr2cents ( 323101 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:32PM (#18677371)
    FTA:

    For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks [...]
    Can you be paying attention to security and not be paranoid at the same time?
  • Fasterfox (Score:5, Insightful)

    by glwtta ( 532858 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:35PM (#18677409) Homepage
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fasterfox doesn't prefetch links unless you specifically enable that option (or they are marked for prefetching, and who does that?). It doesn't matter which level you select, the indiscriminate prefetching is a separate option.

    Its main benefits are multiple connections and pipelining (oh and the timer - I love the timer). To say that you should throw the whole thing out because they don't like prefetching (which is indeed a poor idea) is just plain silly.

    Also, what's with the extremely patronizing tone of the whole article? Who made them the hall monitors of the internet?
  • by Kreigaffe ( 765218 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:36PM (#18677425)
    I seem to remember days when one could design a wonderfully functional and snazzy-looking page from naught but caffeine and HTML..

    oh for those days, when pages merely DISPLAYED things that I wished to VIEW.
  • by rootofevil ( 188401 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:41PM (#18677523) Homepage Journal

    You always need to code to the lowest common denominator, which'll be a browser without Javascript. At the very least popup a message about it.
    agreed. ajax is a feature not a requirement. my smartphone doesnt do ajax, and more and more people are getting them, so building even reduced functionality should be a priority.

    As for a site broken by Adblock: how about not using horribly intrusive ads? They don't work except maybe with the moron element.
    it would be useful to note that if your target demographic is the moron element, you arent losing anything by breaking functionality to people who have adblock installed. additionally, if you do have adblock installed then why are you going to a website targeted at the moron element?
  • by catmandi ( 995992 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:47PM (#18677655) Homepage
    So, you're not willing to pay for content - or to view ads to support free content. Hope I'm not pointing out the obvious - but how are providers supposed to pay for all the hardware (I'll be generous and assume everyone can use FOSS) that runs the websites?
    Finally, what's the "winning" scenario here - consumers (if they can be called that) - getting everything for free? And how is this related to Tom Cruise?
  • by deanoaz ( 843940 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:58PM (#18677839)
    If the web content disappears because I don't see the ads, then I'll happily live without the content. If my favorite TV shows go off the air because I skip most of the ads when I watch, I'll watch something else instead. If every TV show goes off the air, I'll read more books.

    What I won't do is expose myself to more advertising than I have to.

    "Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people." - George Bernard Shaw

  • by Jbcarpen ( 883850 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:00PM (#18677869)

    FTA:

    For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks [...]
    Can you be paying attention to security and not be paranoid at the same time?
    Is noscript really paranoia? Or is it more like bringing bug repellent on a hike through a jungle?
  • by flynt ( 248848 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:00PM (#18677877)
    I hate dancing baloney on a web page, and doubly so when it's for useless, distracting, intrusive advertising.

    Is there any other kind of dancing baloney?
  • by walt-sjc ( 145127 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:01PM (#18677883)
    Worse, there are some sites that are just HORRIBLY designed, and use javascript for no real reason at all, and in many / most cases CSS would work BETTER.

    Then there is all the statistics / tracking javascript which noscript does a wonderful job getting rid of.
  • by Andy Dodd ( 701 ) <atd7NO@SPAMcornell.edu> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:06PM (#18677961) Homepage
    I think that's why Google has been so successful with their ad system.

    The targeting is one thing, but far more important is that Google's ads tend to be far less intrusive (and thus far less likely to get added to a user's blocklist).
  • by jotok ( 728554 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:08PM (#18677985)
    Personally, I'm willing to pay for content, but generally speaking most of the ads I see are not anything I'm interested in, which annoys me. I hate going to a tech news website and seeing ads for mortgages. I hate going to cooks.com and seeing ads for a site on looking and feeling "younger" (realage.com).

    For sites like this, it rapidly becomes apparent that the purpose of the site is to generate ad revenue, for which the content is a draw, rather than a site that presents good content and is supported by ads. When I perceive this then the site is not one to which I will return in any case, ads or no.

    Remember how the web used to be in the early 90s? You had some "THIS IS MY PAGE BLINKING TEXT DANCING HAMSTERS LOL!one" pages and then you had some black text/grey background sites with 500k of text on how to beat some game or cook a souffle. The latter is what I want to see (and incidentally I think that sites like myspace are wonderful for putting all the crap in one place). A site like Jarod Wilson's guide to MythTV [wilsonet.com] has pertinent ads and a VERY high content/ad ratio. TFA has links to HP forensics solutions in an article about Firefox. No thanks!
  • by misleb ( 129952 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:19PM (#18678195)
    I think he's saying that most sites simply wouldn't get any revenue because at least he (and probably myself) would neither pay for the content (in most cases) nor suffer ads. I think he's just being honest. Fact is that a lot of sites just wouldn't exist without ad support. But then, so what? That isn't his (or my) problem beyond there being a smaller number of sites available to browse. There was an internet before advertising was ubiquitous, ya know. Even today, plenty of sites manage to get by without advertising OR charging for content.

    Finally, what's the "winning" scenario here - consumers (if they can be called that) - getting everything for free?


    Winning is businesses finding better ways to make money than by annoying the general user. And yes, I find any and all ads annoying. I don't care if they are relevent or targetted or whatever. If I want to see/here about a company, I will seek them out. If there is any "legitimate"
    form of advertising, it is in the form of yellowpages-like directories or catalogs. Beyond that, I don't want to see it or here it. And quite frankly, I don't give a crap how it affects business.

    -matthew
  • by fraudrogic ( 562826 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:47PM (#18678749)
    1) No free content available, anywhere

    Oh yeah, that'll happen. Because EVERYBODY will be willing to pay for content. Guess what, when competition is giving it out for free, guess where everyone will go? Not the pay site. Sure they take a hit, but then they get popularity which is infinitely more valuable than a few hundred subscribers.

    2) Everyone makes you register for access


    That's what bugmenot.com is for. If I run into registration for content, I most likely don't bother. It can't be that important to waste my time to go through a registration process where I will input all fake credentials and a use an email address from mailinator or the like.

    3) Everyone makes you pay a fee to read anything

    I am free to avoid that right?

    Talk about flamebait. You all subsidize MY internet experience? What's up melodrama? You get revenue from advertisement don't you? You're way too emotional about this. Sorry, that was a bit of flamebait in itself. Mod me as you will.
  • by bmk67 ( 971394 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:58PM (#18678917)

    No, it's bad becaues it stops all javascript. Today more and more sites are using ajax because it actually enhances the browsing experience.
    Funny, I don't recall asking anyone to "enhance my browsing experience". It's a fact that not all web-enabled devices can support Javascript, and those that can offer an option to disable it. If your site won't work without scripting disabled, I submit that it is your site, and not my browser, that is broken. If your site depends on a particular browser configuration in order for your site to work at all, you are far too dependent on scripting. Scripting is an enhancement, not a requirement.

    Run a website of your own
    I do.

    see how many people call or email with problems that are caused by noscript and adblock
    Thanks, my site's fully functional with adblock and noscript enabled.

    It's one thing to run those extensions because you know what they do and you know the consequences. It's quite another to recommend that other, not so tech savvy, people install those extensions.
    And it's quite another thing to make gratuitous assumptions about the capabilities of your audience's browser or it's configuration.
  • by ShieldW0lf ( 601553 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:59PM (#18678939) Journal
    That's funny as hell.

    #1 Fasterfox: Don't use it, it hammers webservers! There are a lot of links on the page that you are NEVER going to click on, mostly ads. This prefetches all those ads from the adservers webserver, but you're not looking at them! Not cool!

    #2 NoScript: Don't use it, it's annoying. Plus, it screws up important scripts. For example, the article has these scripts:

    function popup( ...
    function popup_noscroll( ...
    function switchPage( ... // this ord is used for Double Click Integration
    ord=Math.random()*10000000000000000;

    Do you really want to have to deal with the trouble?

    #3 AdBlock: Do you think we do this to provide you with lame lists? We don't. We do this to make you watch ads. And you have to watch them! Didn't you get that under #2? You're breaking the social contract, you bastard!

    What a joke.
  • by ConceptJunkie ( 24823 ) * on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @02:39PM (#18679625) Homepage Journal
    "where would the web be if everyone blocked ads."

    The fact of the matter is that's not the user's problem now is it?

    Don't whine to me if your business model doesn't work because it annoys people. That's the free market, baby. Adapt or die.

  • by Danse ( 1026 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @02:41PM (#18679663)

    However, you must concede that entrepreneurial instinct (which often involves "pushing" information or products at people when they don't really need or want them) has done a lot to forward technological advances.

    While ads have helped the web become what it is today, I can't help but think that maybe if there weren't so many sites out there trying to get hits for ad purposes, the web might be a better place. Even if that means I have to pay for subscriptions to sites with content that I want, I think I might like that web better. We'd still have a lot of low-cost hosting solutions out there, and we'd still have people posting whatever they want. There just probably wouldn't be so much auto-generated garbage out there to sift through in order to see the interesting stuff. Then again, I've thought about this for all of about 3 minutes now, so I could be completely wrong.
  • by Danse ( 1026 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @02:56PM (#18679909)

    Gmail isn't any better than any number of local mail clients. If your site really really needs javascript, it's probably better off not being a site at all. Make it an application and network it.

    Being a website rather than a desktop application is half the benefit you get from Gmail. I can access it from anywhere I have an internet connection and a browser, and have all my mail in front of me. Not true with desktop apps.
  • by Eivind ( 15695 ) <eivindorama@gmail.com> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @03:43PM (#18680609) Homepage
    Their lack of a business-model ain't your problem, now is it ?

    You should look at ads because they'd like you to ?

    Migth as well argue they should drop ads because readers would like them to. Especially anoying ones.

  • by Captain Splendid ( 673276 ) <capsplendid@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @04:21PM (#18681229) Homepage Journal
    Agreed. Some of the criticisms are valid, but the whole article felt like it was written to make big media companies happy. "Nooo, you don't want to block our ads, it's too much hassle!"

    I'll admit that something like Noscript takes a little work before it runs just the way you want it, but until FF is 100% secure, I'll keep using it, especially at work.
  • by BalanceOfJudgement ( 962905 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @04:23PM (#18681275) Homepage

    Like I am actually overwhelmed. You just don't realize how in prevelent advertising is until you've shielded youself from it for a while. Mass ad blocking is like a drug.

    You just said something else, although you didn't realize it:

    That mass advertising itself is also like a drug. I'm constantly amazed when I hear people talk about their experiences when they don't watch TV or go on the internet for awhile.. it's like they see the world completely differently, and in fact, they do: without the constant drum of advertising against their skulls, they start to see a world NOT based entirely on crass consumerism, a world where there IS meaning and simply joy in things like going to a picnic or talking to your family or reading a book on a gentle afternoon.

    We've become so conditioned to be the perfect consumers that we're actually surprised when we step out of that mold. I never watch or listen to ads anymore, and advertisers be damned: I'll buy your product when and if I need it, and only then will I go looking for it. You do not need to spend every waking moment of my life telling me I am a worthless piece of shit because I don't have the latest gadget or waving things in my face that you KNOW I'm going to have to use credit to buy.

    Fuck you, all of you. I am a human being, not a machine you can control.
  • by Korin43 ( 881732 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @04:38PM (#18681477) Homepage
    You seem to imply that I'd actually click on those ads. When these websites start putting in ads that relate to their site, that are actually worth looking at, and don't take up half the space on the page I'll take off adblock. But really, I'm not interested in Adult Friend Finder and v14gr4. As for this site, I have to admit that the ads are pretty well built into the site, but there are 2 popup windows. Any site that uses popups for ads isn't going to convince me to stop using adblock.
  • Unfounded (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sacrilicious ( 316896 ) <qbgfynfu.opt@recursor.net> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @04:57PM (#18681807) Homepage
    Does NoScript make Firefox safer? Sure. Is it worth the hassle? No. For some reason, paranoia seems to be cool among Web geeks, but for the most part, it is totally unwarranted unless you're sending and receiving sensitive data.

    This is a pretty broad set of statements to make, and I doubt the article's author has anything but his own opinion to back it up with. Example: Google Analytics javascripts are everywhere, directly allowing google to track an individual user's journey to any pages that include them. The author apparently doesn't think that visits to such pages are "private information". Or maybe the author doesn't realize how such information is tracked and might be used.

  • by BillGatesLoveChild ( 1046184 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @05:17PM (#18682069) Journal
    This has to be the dumbest articles to ever come from ComputerWorld.

    Think every single poster we've seen here has agreed how his list of mostly good tools, and it does seem targeted against tools that target ads and privacy. There *are* many dumb Firefox extensions he could have covered (like the 'make us your portal' ones) that he didn't. But really, how stupid does he think we are? Anyone even remotely tech savvy will see through his 'list'. Who is this guy anyway? His bio doesn't exactly shine out from the crowd:

    > Peter Smith is a Web developer and freelance writer with
    > a special interest in personal technology and digital entertainment.

    Web developer = my 6 year old is also a web developer. freelance = mostly unemployed. special interest = means nothing. personal technology = he owns an iPod. digital entertainment = he watches movies, not at the cinema, but straight off a DVD. Hey Computerworld and your mass media cohorts: print crap articles like this and the Bloggers will eat you alive.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @07:43PM (#18683691)
    I hate those too. Those of you who can tag articles, why don't you tag them as "multiplepages" or "splitarticle" or "annoyingashell"? That would be an useful use of Slashdot's tags (as opposed to that useless "haha" tag).
  • by misleb ( 129952 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @08:00PM (#18683871)
    But why bother? Why go through the trouble of selecting which ads to keep and which to block? There's absolutely nothing wrong with just filtering out all ads. You didn't sign any contract. It is your internet connection. Your computer. You can view the web however you damn well please. So why not just get a good filter (Filterset.G for Adblock Plus is awesome) and save yourself the work? Are you afraid of missing something? Are you afraid that there aren't perfectly adequate resources for finding out about products if and when you feel the need to seek them out? Do you feel some ethical problem with ad blocking? What is it?

    Why do advertisers deserve a "chance?" I feel that I've already given those soulless worms a good 25 years of my life (I'm 32 now and have blocked ads for about 4 years). Enough is enough. They've had their chance. I want the parts of my brain that are wasted storing stupid jingles and subliminal messages back. I've got better things to store there.

    -matthew
  • by Gazzonyx ( 982402 ) <scott.lovenberg@gm a i l.com> on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @09:50PM (#18684613)
    I view ads in the same way I view my operating system. There are ground rules, and if they're followed, I will remain (mostly) happy. They should both:

    • Get out of my way. Let me do what I do and don't bother me.
    • Don't steal the focus, ever.
    • If I want (OS object/ad content), I know where to find it, it should blend itself to its environment.
    • Never lead me to question my privacy, ever
    • Understand that I'm in control of what I will and will not put up with
    • Avoid doing anything that gives me the impression that they(producer) think I'm stupid.

    I understand that companies have to make a bit of a profit, and that allows me to see their content; I don't mind these ads so long as they don't break any of the rules above. A hovering popup in the top right hand corner that dissapears in 10 seconds doesn't bother me, so long as it's not covering any content. I've found some ads useful from time to time when I'm doing research on hardware. For the most part google ads satisfy all my conditions.

    Just my $.02 - take it as you will.

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