Firefox Usage Near 25% In Europe 391
A user writes "French researcher Xiti claims that Mozilla Firefox keeps winning terrain in Europe. 24.1% of Internet users in Europe use Firefox. Slovenia (44.5%), Finland (41.3%), Croatia (36.5%), and Germany (36.2%) lead the way, followed by a group of mostly Eastern European countries. Remarkably, The Netherlands is only at 13.3%, right before Andorra. Oceania maintains a slight lead over Europe, at 24.8%; the rest of the world trails at 11.9% to 15.1%."
A small victory (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Nice indeed, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
On a related note, I'd like to see a study as to how accurate translations are, too, when comparing FireFox (and others) to IE.
Re:Nice indeed, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
Their computers come with Internet Explorer, and it's good enough. They're not going to embrace Firefox just for the sake of it, because they're entirely apathetic about almost everything to begin with.
We Americans haven't had to fight for anything or even really compete. Students don't have to learn, and people readily embrace each other when a Wikipedia link makes them think they're experts on legal and business processes (*cough*implied warranties*cough*). Complacency explains a lot, including the relatively slower uptake of Firefox.
One by one... (Score:5, Interesting)
Then Open Office (or less bloated equivalents like Abiword) will come and kick out Word and al from grandma computers. Then average Joe will not be able to watch his movies on Vista and noone will have a copy of XP handy. So his 12-year old will install Ubuntu.
And wmv and other non-open formats will die, too. People are getting burned by DRM tricks and lock-ins.
Well... I like to dream.
Australia (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The numbers for the Britain are not either (Score:3, Interesting)
If you look at the map in TFA, it is almost more-or-less a map of how much countries spend on equipping their schools properly and providing decent technical skills to their population. These countries will run ahead within the IT industry of Europe. Sadly my nation (UK) will probably not be one of them.
Re:Nice indeed, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
Look at the guys map, South America, and surprisingly - Asia, seem to have the slowest uptake.
The map doesn't have US specifically, but go ahead and assume that North America means USA only. We don't pay much attention to mexico or canada either.
Hmm.. correlates to Software Freedom Day (Score:2, Interesting)
For example, compare the USA [softwarefreedomday.org] (24 teams) with Australia [softwarefreedomday.org] (19 teams). When you consider that the US population is over ten times bigger than Australia's population (298,444,215 vs 20,264,082), is it any wonder that Software Freedom Day is more effective in "Oceania" than it is in the US?
Not to mention the cultural differences in accepting software from random people on the street in the US, Europe and Australia.
Useful for what? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:A small victory (Score:3, Interesting)
Germany 36.2% - yet Seibel web apps are msie only (Score:3, Interesting)
Where I work, we use a web-based Seible product called crmondemand. It will only work correctly with MSIE. The Firefox MSIE plug-in doesn't help.
Re:sounds way of low for home users (Score:3, Interesting)
University amateur theater (spex) site: 73.4% Firefox, 22.0% IE, 1.4% Opera, 0.2% Safari
Family discussion board and photo album: 85.9% Firefox, 7.8% IE, 1.8% Safari
Professional photographer's site: 49.4% IE, 32.9% Firefox, 13.1% Safari
Linux laptop installation instructions (English): 49.1% Firefox, 38.2% IE, 2.8% Safari, 2.8% Opera
Personal page about my boat: 59.6% IE, 35.8% Firefox, 2.2% Safari, 0.4% Opera
Yeah 25% and growing. (Score:4, Interesting)
So this increasing market share of Firefox is good news. The threat of a single client achieving complete dominance is past now, I believe - a bullet dodged.
As an aside. I have a customer that was concerned about this several years ago and she wanted to do her part so she requested a special mod to her shopping cart that recognizes the browser and gives a "Mozilla Users Discount" for the kindred users.
Interesting to see that it still works Sam McGees Hot Sauce [sammcgees.com]"
Re:One by one... (Score:3, Interesting)
Clumsier, perhaps. Buggier? You should spend some time working on large (100+ pages), complex documents in Word. I've lost more work to that crash-prone piece of crap. On occasion it even manages to take out the auto-save files when it goes down, and to corrupt the main document beyond salvation. OpenOffice.org has the occasional quirky behavior, but it's much, much more stable.
Re:The numbers for the Netherlands are not surpris (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Two important questions... (Score:3, Interesting)
See the difference now?
Re:sounds way of low for home users (Score:5, Interesting)
Firefox - 4295627 hits - 65.3 %
MS Internet Explorer - 1651317 hits - 25.1 %
Opera - 319524 hits - 4.8 %
Mozilla - 127876 hits - 1.9 %
Safari - 64764 hits - 0.9 %
And that with IE dropping and Firefox gaining share has been a steady trend for the past 3-4 years. Maybe my site gets more early adopters, and I am actively pushing Firefox (the only banner/ad I've ever had on my site), but the trend is still there.
Firefox 100% is not the target (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Yeah but... (Score:5, Interesting)
The UK and German arms of commodore were still profitable, and there was even talk of commodore uk buying out the american parent company.
Re:Linux came from Europe... (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2, Interesting)
On the other hand, those snooby Europeans moved past viewing themselves as superior (at least most of them).
Data indicates a clear majority amongst home users (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2, Interesting)