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Old School Linux Remembered, Parts 0.02 & 0.03 163

eldavojohn writes "Following our last history lesson of Linux 0.01, the Kernel Trap is talking about the following announcements that would lead to one of the greatest operating systems today. A great Linus quote on release 0.02 (just 19 days after 0.01): 'I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got minix. This is a program for hackers by a hacker. I've enjoyed [sic] doing it, and somebody might enjoy looking at it and even modifying it for their own needs. It is still small enough to understand, use and modify, and I'm looking forward to any comments you might have.'"
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Old School Linux Remembered, Parts 0.02 & 0.03

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  • by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Thursday August 02, 2007 @11:27PM (#20096961) Homepage Journal
    More ironic: the Linux kernel is slowly becoming a hybrid monolithic/micro-kernel.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, 2007 @01:17AM (#20097627)
    That's funny because there are people using the 2.6 kernel with 1MB of RAM today!
  • by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Friday August 03, 2007 @01:37AM (#20097737) Homepage Journal
    Performance isn't really the most important thing.

    Stability and security are the big wins. With the Linux kernel both these things are less of a problem than with other systems because it is expected that everything you run is open for inspection and improvement (and if you run stuff that isn't, well, you're on your own). But now we have this other option. If you don't trust a driver, you should be able to run it in user space. If it crashes, well, restart it, no harm done (hopefully).. and you don't have to trust it with kernel access.

    That said, you're still giving this unknown code a lot of control over your system.. so don't get a false sense of security.

  • by gallwapa ( 909389 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @01:38AM (#20097741) Homepage
    Yeah...because where I'm from I constantly nurse our Linux servers. I mean, heck, I even decided to do a kernel update once and it actually made me reboot the machine. How dare it make me nurse it along like that!?!11! If only patches came out on the second Tuesday of every month for every server and workstation at the same time and have them auto apply and hope nothing breaks instead of nursing it along by pressing the 'accept' button.

    (And now for the real story: We don't have a ton of Linux servers, but for the 5 we do... we turned them on, set them up, and they've run ever since...)
  • by Comatose51 ( 687974 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @02:32AM (#20097965) Homepage
    I've been reading "The Myth of Innovations" and "Black Swan". They're two books on different subjects but with a similar underlying theme: there's a great deal more randomness and unpredictability in this world than we like to admit. Things don't progress in a linear fashion but usually in parallel and in the form of a tree. Only in hindsight does it look linear because all the other branches have died out and been eliminated. This quote by Linus really illustrates this point. At that time, no one really knew what was going to happen to Linux. It could have gone in a million directions (forking in computer science terms).

    I think of the great advantages the OSS model has over closed source is that when these branches die out their work and whatever grain of usefulness/truth don't die with them. It's precisely the ability to fork and create another branch that allows OSS to really evolve and try out all the million possibilities. With closed source and an overly strict copyright scheme the overhead of trying those possibilities are too expensive. (regurgitating Yochai Benkler's "Wealth of the Network" here)

  • by moosesocks ( 264553 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @04:36AM (#20098511) Homepage
    Sounds more like a problem with Freenet, which most people seem to have a problem with getting to work properly.

    Likewise, I wouldn't use Java performance as a good indicator of anything, because I mean.... let's be honest here... it's java. There are one or two good java applications out there, but for the most part, it just plain sucks.
  • by Tama00 ( 967104 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @05:33AM (#20098741)
    As i read all these articles on the net and from slashdot that compare Linux to Windows in such a way that Linux's aim is to steal market share from Windows. I also read in forums all the time, "Linux needs the marketshare so that software publishes will release Games/Photoshop etc on Linux then it will destroy microsoft" and i always say, "The aim of Linux WAS NEVER destroy Microsoft Windows market share." I used to always quote GNU from their site that said something like, "to create a completely open source operation system" Note the words open source which is not commerical programs

    But now heres proof, right and it should be really noted. Linux was created by the developer for the developer. Its not developed to take out microsoft windows. Linux does not want commerical programs and Linux does not care for market share. There are no shareholders for Linux, no one is crushed if you dont use Linux or if you dont like it. So stop writing reviews that say "Linux will defeat microsoft if it had X and Y" because as a developer or Linux i dont care what you think, as long as it stays good enough to be my desktop OS.
  • by Ant P. ( 974313 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:32AM (#20099601)
    Had it not been for Minix, nobody would be offended enough to create something better.
  • by byolinux ( 535260 ) * on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:14AM (#20099995) Journal
    It runs X. I was using GNU yesterday, browsing the web, wrote some email, sent some email, IRC, SSH...

    What more do you need?
  • by amccaf1 ( 813772 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:25AM (#20100887)

    I've enjoyed [sic] doing it,


    Can anyone tell me why there is a "[sic]" in that above quote? There don't seem to be any spelling/grammatical mistakes in the sentence.

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