Microsoft Should Abandon Vista?

mr_mischief writes "An editorial written by Don Reisinger over at CNet's News.com takes Microsoft to task for the outright failure of Vista. He suggests that Vista may be the downfall of the company as, despite years in development, Vista was delivered to market too early. His suggestion? Support those who are running it, but otherwise ditch Vista and move on. 'Never before have I seen such an abysmal start to an operating system release. For almost a year, people have been adopting Vista and becoming incensed by how poorly it operates. Not only does it cost too much, it requires more to run than XP, there is still poor driver support ... With Mac OS X hot on its tail, Vista is simply not capable of competing at an OS level with some of the best software around. If Microsoft continues down this path, it will be Vista that will bring the software giant to its knees--not Bill Gates' departure.'"

leave it alone!!

[Anonymous Coward]

How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Vista after all it has been through?

Its sales are flagging. Leopard made Steve Ballmer mad. He threw two fucking chairs.

Mr. Mischief turned out to be a blogger, and now he's posting stories to slashdot. All you people care about is quality and usability.

It's a version of Windows! What you don't realize is that Vista is just being Windows and all you do is write a bunch of crap about it.

Microsoft hasn't made a good OS in years. It prefixes everything with "Win" because all you people care about is WINNING! WINNING! WINNING!

LEAVE IT ALONE! You are lucky it even boots you bastards! LEAVE VISTA ALONE!

Please!

Don Reisinger talked about professionalism and said if Steve Ballmer was a professional he would've shouted "developers" a few more times.

Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash an operating system who is going through a hard time?

Leave Vista alone, please.

LEAVE VISTA ALONE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN IT.

Anyone that has a problem with it you deal with me, because it is not well right now.

LEAVE IT ALONE!

Mars rovers

[SpaceLifeForm]

So, they may *outlast* Vista.

And, for a fraction of the cost.

It's not *that* bad

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm a linux sysadmin. For work reasons (stupid software only runs under windows) I need to run Windows on my office desktop. I'm running XP here, Vista on my laptop, and Vista on one of my machines at home. Personally, I don't see what the problem with it is. Yeah, some stuff works a bit differently and things aren't in the places I'm used to seeing them, but on the whole it's not *that* bad. I'd take it over WinME any day.

Hmm.. how to fix Vista..

[downix]

What microsoft needs is some fixing. Let's go through their pile of technology and see... nope... nah... nada... a here we go!

Microsoft Vista: Bob Edition!

Vista's Roots

[techpawn]

It's just cobbled together CE, ME, and NT versions with a new GUI. Though, they could of stuck with the first name... Windows CEMENT... Would of been far more accurate.

Re:Freaking flamebait articles.

[xs650]

"On the one hand, I'm not touching Vista with a 10 foot pole until service pack one at the earliest. On the other hand, any self-professed Ubuntu/Mac guy is not who I look to for advice about Windows."

MS has learned from Vista. The Vista follow on (7?) will be released simultaneously with it's SP1 so people don't have to wait.

Is Ballmer single?

[RobertB-DC]

You know, the last time Microsoft rolled out an operating system that was a complete market flop [toastytech.com], the developer had to marry Bill Gates [wikipedia.org].

There are worse fates for a failed project's lead, I guess.

So the question now is: is Steve Ballmer single, or will he just take on a mistress?

Re:leave it alone!!

[Anonymous Coward]

the video

That's easily the most fucked up thing I've seen in the entire month of September ... and I've had a pretty fucked up month.

It's a OS that don't like Microsoft

[denisbergeron]

I have Vista on one computer at home, because the computer went with and it used by my children to play game. Must of old Microsoft games (last year game made for XP) doesn't work on Vista. But the funiest part, is that my two Microsoft mouse are the only mouse where I can't find driver to work on Vista, and they don't work at all!

So, Vista is a OS that don't like Microsoft.

Re:Vista's Roots

[compro01]

so it would be cheap, versatile, solid, and non-flashy?

Re:Whatever

[rucs_hack]

if they drop it, how will I play Halo 2 and 3?

Thus far these are the only two reasons to buy vista, and even then, probably not for another year, and then as a secondary boot to linux...

Re:Freaking flamebait articles.

[tholomyes]

Funny, just before I read your comment I was thinking almost the same thing: After how many comments I've seen about people who have sworn to wait to adopt Vista until an SP1, MS should just push out *something* -- unicode support in the calculator!-- and call it SP1.

What I really mean to say is...

[Aslan72]

Don't make me install Vista Bro!

Re:leave it alone!!

[QRDeNameland]

That is indeed a powerful argument for living under a rock.

Re:Huh? worst start?

[zackeller]

I think they threw it together in about 6 months. Even so, it took a *lot* of drugs.

Re:Huh? worst start?

[leroybrown]

A friend of mine is a computer repair technician who spent a number of years in jail for armed robbery and didn't get out til 2002. He's really cleaned up his act since then and was lamenting the other night that he missed out when computers really started to make inroads into homes. He said, "I really missed out on the beginning years, with Windows 95, 98, ME, and 2000". I told him, "Well, I don't know about 95, 98, and 2000, but for Windows ME you were probably better off in jail."

Re:Whatever

[HAKdragon]

...by buying an XBox 360?

excellent use of the question mark

[Sloppy]

Good job. [buzzhumor.com]

rps

[someone1234]

Well, Vista video drivers are measured by rps (reboot per seconds) not fps.

Re:Whatever

[xhrit]

you could just wait for an xbox360 emulator to come out, and then run it on linux. Should be sometime in Q1 2025.

Re:Whatever

[Pig Hogger]

How about they release their own distribution of Linux/BSD/whatever, and then make all of their other apps work great on that (as well as backwards compatible). They can make it look like XP

It's like making Mohammed put on a Jesus-Christ mask (and stigmatas on his wrists) and ask catholics to worship him...

Re:Whatever

[geekoid]

for some people it's 30 pieces of silver, for others it a video game. It must be nice to know your cheap.

Re:Vista AWESOME compared with CRAPPY Linux

[Pensacola Tiger]

I've been running Windows XP for about four years now, and it has been an "OK" experience. Most things in the box worked right out of the box, with the notable exception of networking with other operating systems, but that got better as time went on. Games were the high point of the Windows experience. The less said about Microsoft Office the better.

There were few applications included with the operating system, really almost none. Many things not included were expensive to buy, and some didn't work well at all. I noticed that there were no applications worth talking about when it came to doing anything involving video editing that didn't crash the machine. And even playing a DVD required me to spend an extra $60 on WinDVD.

And then I noticed how completely broken the security is on Windows XP.

So I switched to Linux, the best OS the planet has ever seen.

Does Linux have any flaws? Probably. But Microsoft is in a panic over it. Maybe they're afraid that Windows will disappear in the shadow of Linux. So they've been conducting a FUD campaign for some time now, using a stalking horse named SCO. But that horse broke a leg recently, and will soon be humanely put to sleep.

Windows is about having to spend endless hours of your time applying security patches, scanning for malware and sometimes restoring the entire operating system when it glitches. Linux is about enjoying your computer.

For most people and organizations, I recommend Linux. I don't recommend Windows.

(Aw, heck, I couldn't help myself...)

--

Microsoft alleges that Linux violates 235 Microsoft patents. I say put up, or shut up.

LEAVE AC ALONE!

[PixelScuba]

How fucking dare anyone out there make fun of Anonymous Coward after all they have been through?

Anonymous Coward hasn't made a good post in years. They begin everything with "fp" because all you people care about is FIRST POST! FIRST POST! FIRST POST!

LEAVE THEM ALONE! You are lucky they even chose to post here you bastards! LEAVE ANONYMOUS COWARD ALONE!

Please!

Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash a human being who is going through a hard time?

Leave Anonymous Coward alone, please.

LEAVE ANONYMOUS COWARD ALONE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN IT.

Anyone that has a problem with them, you deal with me, because it is not well right now.

LEAVE THEM ALONE!

Wasted MOD Point?

[Anonymous Coward]

You wasted a MOD point for that?!?

Re:Whatever

[Tarlus]

Should be sometime in Q1 2025.

Ah, just in time for the PC port of Halo 3.

Re:Huh? worst start?

[trolltalk.com]

Next you'll be claiming that emacs isn't an OS ... philistine!

Re:Whatever

[budgenator]

That must be one of those Linux command-line abominations, because no matter how hard I try I cant get the mouse pointer to the Print Screen key!

Decalf?

[amake]

Because the alternative is that it comes with a baby cow?

Re:Mars rovers

[Jesus_666]

And, for a fraction of the cost.

Yeah, the price for Ultimate is a bit steep. I heard that Germany will soon be able to afford one copy; I'm pretty excited about that.

Re:Whatever

[Anonymous Coward]

They are bloated because they offer features to different people with different requirements. It is not like everything in Netbeans is useless. You might not find the feature useful but there are people who use it.

By that definition, somebody could say emacs is useless. That would leave us up shit creek because VI really is useless.

Re:Freaking flamebait articles.

[ceoyoyo]

They'd have to make it a half gig download to make it look good. That kind of bloat is pretty hard to achieve... oh, right. Never mind.

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hasta la vista ...

[Anonymous Coward]

baby.

You vont be bääk.

Re:Whatever

[Anonymous Coward]

Is this place full of 12 year olds or something?

No, around here that's code for "I'm a low-level Microsoft marketing drone who's being paid to spam forums with positive comments about Microsoft products".

Re:It's all just a misunderstanding.

[billgates]

Ha, give me a break. You moronic Microsoft fanboys are barking clueless for the most part. Blinded by your ridiculous lust and loyalty for a product that more often than not takes more time and gives you more heartache than Linux ever would. Some of us don't want to be slaves to corporations like you. Get over yourselves and realise that Linux has a place in the OS world. People who want ease of use, no fiddling with registry files, virus checkers, malware removers, DRM, and want to develop art/applications/websites with some of the best tools in the world.... will not use a Microsoft based OS. Believe me, Linux has its issues, some of them can be annoying but the enormity of the thing and the fact that it pretty much works straight out of the box is an impressive feat. So mod me down, and continue modding up the tool bags who merely say idiotic statements purely because they are anti Linux. A lot of slashdot's articles can be insightful but the comments seem to come from American teenage boys and as soon as something MS or Windows related pops up most of you people lose all reason and salivate at the mouth. I guess I can take solace in the fact that I could probably beat the enire lot of you with the help of our community. :)

Re:Whatever

[MadnessASAP]

Bah! REAL programmers dont need keyboards, mice or monitors. I wave a magnet rapidly over my hardrive to program it. Jeez you kids these days have it to easy.

Re:Whatever

[Anonymous Coward]

And I drank the vinegar to make the piss, you pussy.

Re:MOD UP!

[Sipos]

What? A Repetitive joke? On slashdot? Never!

Re:Whatever

[VariableGHz]

Should be sometime in Q1 2025.

Ah, just in time for the PC port of Halo 3.

Ah, just in time for Duke Nukem Forever ;)

Re:Whatever

[Anonymous Coward]

They all worship the same deity.

The Sun?

Re:Whatever

[Tarlus]

Ah, just in time for Duke Nukem Forever ;)

Duke Nukem Forever? But that's impossible... Don't you know there's a certain reason for why "Forever" was put in its title?

Re:Halo 2 runs in XP anyway

[bamsebomsen]

Thanks to you, learned some new trivia today: "Halo 2 for Windows Vista[57] was originally scheduled for release on May 8, 2007, but the release was pushed back to May 29th. This delay was apparently due to the insertion of nudity into the game via a "content error".[58] Microsoft will be offering patches to remove the nude content and is revising the boxes to reflect this. Many retailers were not given the notification in time and have sold copies to consumers since as early as May 20th in a few United States Circuit City stores. The nudity was a photograph of a male mooning (presumably of a Microsoft or Bungie employee) which appeared as a ".ass" error when using the map editor in Halo 2 for Windows Vista."

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Re:MOD UP!

[History's Coming To]

In Soviet Russia, joke repeats you.

Sorry. Force of habit.