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FTC To Take a Second Look at P2P 132

BlueMerle writes to mention that the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has asked the FTC to take another look into the world of peer-to-peer file sharing. This time around however the inquiry has nothing to do with copyright. "But a USPTO report earlier this year stirred up the issue again by claiming that P2P installs could adversely affect national security when they made confidential government information available. This has already happened several times, as the Oversight Committee learned in July when it held hearings on the USPTO report and its findings. At that hearing, representatives were also shown real-time P2P search data. While most of the searches were for porn, movies, and music, the committee noted a surprisingly number of searches for private financial information."
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FTC To Take a Second Look at P2P

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  • by adolf ( 21054 ) <flodadolf@gmail.com> on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @01:38AM (#21081669) Journal
    A better answer would be to stop giving everyone personal computers if they're not supposed to be, well, personalizing them.

    Not to be too fucking obvious, here.

  • by iminplaya ( 723125 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @01:53AM (#21081765) Journal
    It's about changing the internet from its present P2P nature where anybody can run a server into centrally controlled repository of "authorized" servers where uploading, like present day broadcasting, will require a license. Chances are the public will fall for it and go along. And the ISPs are already doing their part by restricting upload speeds and volume.
  • Re:Just wonderful. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Technician ( 215283 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @02:00AM (#21081785)
    Now, instead of RIAA, I have to worry about the Secret Service and the NSA when I'm browsing pirate bay looking for some mus

    Your search for muscle building is probably not going to raise any eyebrows. The fact you are sharing your entire My Documents folder with your Turbo Tax records is of a bigger concern. Go to any P-P site and do a search for common applications extensions. .doc, .xls, .ppt, are just the tip of the iceberg. Try searching for .pwl.. enjoy.

    Many people just don't get the fact they shouldn't use their home directory as a place to download their goodies. It is what they share without even knowing is what is dangerous.

    Here is a WSJ article detailing the problem..
    http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118134946950829716-QWDmBwH_qAgisaepbCCMoT_4cPA_20070710.html?mod=fpa_editors_picks [wsj.com]
    Compuerworld article;
    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9012961 [computerworld.com]
    and an article regarding an ID theft and arrest
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/security/man-used-filesharing-program-to-steal-data-money/2007/09/07/1188783469524.html [smh.com.au]

    They are not interested in your searches for marginal photos. They are interested in the security leaks.

    So just where are you pointing your downloads? Just what are you making available?
  • by br00tus ( 528477 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @02:14AM (#21081847)
    I've done various work with p2p for a while, including writing my own Gnutella application. Peer to peer technology is much too democratic and egalitarian to be allowed free reign. For example, currently if I wanted to publish a 30 minute video online, I would have to pay a lot of money to host it. Nowadays, I could send it to sites like Youtube if I was willing to accept it being surrounded by advertising (or possibly banned if running afoul of their rules). With peer-to-peer, anyone can publish, and if it's popular enough, the "cost" is really paid for by the consumer. For a society like the US, with most of the media in the hands of a few conglomerates, this is far too much freedom and equality, and I knew it was just a matter of time before they attempted to get their claws on peer-to-peer, at the behest of those conglomerates.

    Last year Javed Iqbal, a satellite installer, was thrown in jail. His crime? He allowed people in the US to watch Al-Manar, the television station of Hezbollah. Of course Hezbollah is legally considered to be a terrorist group - if you're a country that is or formerly was a British colony. Or, for some reason, Holland. Outside of Holland and current/former British Dominions, the rest of the world considers Hezbollah to be what it is, a representative of Palestinians pushed into southern Lebanon by the Israelis from 1948 on. But anyhow, the US and UK are at odds with the rest of the world on this as so often they are, Iqbal was thrown in the slammer, and nary a word is heard about it or the supposed First Amendment. Meanwhile, narcissistic attention-seekers like Salman Rushdie are feted and praised year after year. In fact, this is done by the same corporate media propaganda machine which is working to dismantle things like peer-to-peer, all the while of course never reporting on what they are in fact doing, or about many things that are going on in the country of interest but that we'll never know about.

  • Re:Just wonderful. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bombastinator ( 812664 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @04:34AM (#21082415)
    While Technician makes a very valid point, I suspect a major impetus for this is going to turn out to be RIAA lobbying. After all it's OK to be a bastard as long as it's a matter of national security.

    IMHO the P2P developer groups are going to have to get off their butts right fast and do some kind of patch to fix this hole, Such as an auto folder creation, or major pop warnings or something, or they are going to find themselves legislated out of existence.

    And I do mean really really fast. There is a major attitude about foreign military and industrial espionage. This is the kind of legislation that has legs. It's got both fear and money on it.
  • by bombastinator ( 812664 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @05:36AM (#21082629)
    P2P is always to blame because there is a group with money ready to blame it. The finger prints are all over this.

    How could a legislative committee discover, discuss and decide to take action on a problem like this before the leading edge of the community, which is to say here, has even heard about it? Remember these guys don't even type themselves, they have people to do that. That intertube guy genuinely thought he was being insightful at the time.

    There may be other evidence. Where an when did these guys hear about the problem? That one could say a whole lot

    Groups like the senate oversight commitee are cherry appointments. They go to senators that have been in office more or less forever. That means these guys are OLD.
    OLD legislators don't go online that often but the do generally make a point to read their district's local paper. Is there a suspicious cluster of spontaneous articles that have appeared there more than other equivalent publications that are not home town news for pertinent legislators?

    There may also be a few various motivating factors for making an argument over this.

    Is there unequal use of P2P for political purposes? I have not been following the Obama campaign but I understand he is leveraging the internet pretty heavily. If P2P is being heavily used by on party more than another, it behooves the other party to kill the medium.
    The solution for this one is for supporters of both P2P and the legislator in question need to start making use of it to prove the personal need.

    Espionage has recently become a hot issue. The beauty of this particular subject is it's at least superficially non-partisan, it appears, truthfully or not, to address a major news subject making them look like heroes, and of course there's the money from the RIAA to make it all tastier.
  • by Cheesey ( 70139 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @06:09AM (#21082747)
    ...and suggest that to even connect to the Internet as a client in the future, you'll need a licence and an approved software stack. The licence will be in the form of an officially endorsed key pair, and your OS will (1) sign all your outgoing packets with this key pair, and (2) respond to remote attestation requests about the software running on your machine. You'll be able to opt out of this, of course, but if you do, you can't connect to the Internet, because routers at your ISP will refuse to carry traffic lacking a valid signature from the central authority.

    One consequence of this is that you will lose anonymity, because everything you send will be traceable to your licence. It will also enable censorship and the destruction of information, because when licences are revoked, information sent using them will simply disappear. That's perfect for any organisation that wishes to control the movement of information, from Fascist governments to record companies.

    The expense of this will be justified in the usual ways ("think of the children"/"the poor starving musicians"/"the dying film industry"/"OMG TERRORISTS!1!!!!1!"), and the technology that will be used to implement it already exists. It's funny to think that possession of an unlicensed computer might be a crime in the future, since an unlicensed computer might enable someone to copy information without restriction, and obviously only a criminal would want to do that. Will possession of Linux land you in jail?

    Truly the present day is the best time to be alive, because we have all this advanced technology and it is not restricted yet.
  • Re:Just wonderful. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by bombastinator ( 812664 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @10:28AM (#21084773)
    True, but there's truth and then there is marketing. Remember there are well funded organizations who want to end file sharing. It doesn't have to actually be true it merely has to be a truthy excuse.

    Off hand I would ignorantly guess that it at least needs to be made clear that anyone who manages to get their stuff shared unintentionally is a giant idiot. Traditional liability requires a gate lock equivelant, which in this case would be a default setting that did not allow main directory sharing, with a warning labeled confirm window to change it.

    This will possibly damage a lot of the sharing depth of lime/frost wire and eDonkey, but I'm not sure there's any help for it. I'm not a lawyer, a programmer, or a political analyst however. Your milage may vary.
  • by rambag ( 961763 ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @10:40AM (#21085007)
    About two years ago a story came on the local news saying if you do a search in a program like Morpheus for w-4 that peoples taxes returns popped right up to download. Sure enough I tried it and it works. I felt so bad that I used the address on the form called the guy told him what I did and how I did it and that it was on the news for all to see. I then had to play tech support rep to step by step teach this guy how to change his settings so it no longer shared his My Documents folder. Just before I hung up I also told him to call one of the 3 credit agencies and flag his account for fraud. Somehow even after all that I still have bad karma on here.

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