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China's President Hu Talks IT Warfare 170

Posted by Zonk from the reading-dilbert-in-the-trenches dept.
narramissic writes "In his keynote speech at the Communist Party Congress in October China's president Hu Jintao was specific in his references to one area of IT: defense. 'We must build strong armed forces through science and technology. To attain the strategic objective of building computerized armed forces and winning IT-based warfare, we will accelerate composite development of mechanization and computerization, carry out military training under IT-based conditions, modernize every aspect of logistics, intensify our efforts to train a new type of high-caliber military personnel in large numbers and change the mode of generating combat capabilities.'"
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  • Bullshit Bingo Winner! (Score:5, Funny)

    by trolltalk.com ( 1108067 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:01PM (#21218237) Homepage Journal

    >"We must build strong armed forces through science and technology. To attain the strategic objective of building computerized armed forces and winning IT-based warfare, we will accelerate composite development of mechanization and computerization, carry out military training under IT-based conditions, modernize every aspect of logistics, intensify our efforts to train a new type of high-caliber military personnel in large numbers and change the mode of generating combat capabilities."

    Filled my bullshit bingo card across, down, and both diagonals! Sure he doesn't work in marketing?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by El Lobo ( 994537 )
      Well, his speech sounds a lot like CIA's:

      http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3649/is_199607/ai_n8752654 [findarticles.com]

      CIA director calls for cyber-war defense center

      The director of the CIA last week said the U.S. will set up a defense center to combat the growing threat of terrorists and criminals out to bring down vital network systems.

      CIA Director John Deutch said the threat of organized information warfare is likely to grow, raising the prospect of an "electronic Pearl Harbor."

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by ArcherB ( 796902 ) *

        CIA director calls for cyber-war defense center
        and now we know why!

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward
          ...more likely the other way around. The USA is the world's aggressor now, you know.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by ArcherB ( 796902 ) *
            ...more likely the other way around. The USA is the world's aggressor now, you know.

            It's a shame that we are not more so. Maybe we could have stopped things like the Darfur or Rwanda massacres. Then again, even though we do have the world's largest military, we can't do it all without a little help. Hell, if we even got a little moral support it would go a long way. Instead, we get people from pussy nations like yours that want to debate everything at the UN while men, women and children are dying... qu
            • You can't solve everything with brute force either .
              Those people are used to strong leaders . So it is likely that any democracy you install will eventually degrade into a dictatorship. Granted , it will be one that supports the US , but it's still no benefit to the people .

              • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

                by ArcherB ( 796902 ) *
                You can't solve everything with brute force either .

                That's why we waited for 12 years and through 19 UN resolutions before going into Iraq. We tried every option conceivable before using overwhelming force, including the use of limited force. Nothing worked. I guess it didn't matter as some people think that force is absolutely never the answer. These are the people that would rather learn German see the rest of Jews sent to the showers than to actually go to war.

                Same thing is happening in Iran today.


                Th

      • Stereotypes! (Score:3, Interesting)

        by holysin ( 549880 )
        An electronic Pearl Harbor? I know all asians look alike to caucasians, but it's China we should worry about, not Japan. It's more of an electic Boxer Rebellion.

        Sorry, couldn't resist. It's nice to know the CIA is apparently paying attention. A random question to anyone: how much traffic enters/leaves the US a second? Just how big of a MOAF (mother of all firewalls) would the government need to prevent increased latency(not that this would be a government concern of course)?

    • Re:Bullshit Bingo Winner! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by CodeBuster ( 516420 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:29PM (#21218541)
      Sure he doesn't work in marketing?

      Well, in a manner of speaking, he does work in marketing. He is pitching his sales strategy to his customers who buy into it by supporting him, continuing to approve of his policies, and ultimately keep him in power. I am not certain, but if I had to guess I would say that the unique and opaque culture of the Chinese government bureaucracy, complete with back room deals, shifting political allegiances, corruption, the gulag, and all the intrigues that accompany any non-representative government, whether it be an oriental despotism like the Byzantine Empire [wikipedia.org] or a modern scientific socialism [wikipedia.org] like China (at least officially), is a major contributing factor in the copious amount of nauseating and pompous bullshit bingo which emerges in these quinquennal (occuring once every five years) meetings of the Congress of People's Deputies (I think that is what they call themselves). Compared with these guys, the US presidential candidates are downright honest, frank, and forthcoming.
      • Ahem there is only a few problems in your reasoning, the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) neither was oriental, it was Roman and later Greek, nor was it a empire ruled by despotes, the only ursurpator the Empire really had was Phokas (who was the main reason for the almost downfall of the empire in the 7th centuriy and the raise of Islam by weakening the empire upfront and driving it into a useless war against persia) The eastern roman Empire was ruled by emporers who got their title mostly by inheri
      • the unique and opaque culture of the Chinese government bureaucracy, complete with back room deals, shifting political allegiances, corruption, the gulag, and all the intrigues that accompany any non-representative government

        Wow, somebody has really got his jongoistic balls in a twist.

        Back room deals? Shifting political alliances? Corruption? Intrigues? What's so unique about that? Don't you have it in America? Don't make me laugh. As for the 'gulags' - for one thing it is a Russian phenomenon; for another,

    • Re:Bullshit Bingo Winner! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 02, 2007 @07:19PM (#21219137)
      Presumably he was speaking in Chinese and this is just a translation with added bullshit to emphasize the China = Evil viewpoint.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by couchslug ( 175151 )
      The ChiComs have arrived.
      He even sounds like our public affairs flacks, and let's face it, human wave attacks are SO 1950s!
    • First of all one has to realise that this has been translated from Chinese - the Chinese language has a grammatical structure that is somewhat different from English and other Indo-European languages. In Chinese it is completely natural to build up sentences like this, as long 'rotes' or lists of 'items', and quite often what we think os as verbs can be left out. On top of that, in Chinese culture it is common to use expressions, metaphors etc that seem rather florid to a Westerner; thus texts translated fr

      • I'm sure we've all read the "Ingrish" instruction manuals. This went WAY beyond "Do not iron shirt while wearing."

        >"when we in Europe hear American politicians speak, we have to adjust our mindset quite a bit, because to us it sounds like so much bollocks"

        "when we hear politicians speak, we have to adjust our mindset quite a bit, because to us its so much bollock"

        There, fixed it for you!

        I guess it's better than in Soviet Amerika, where politician's mindset adjusts YOU!

  • Hu is really taking the lead on strategic IT (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    You could almost say Hu is on first.

  • Hu? (Score:4, Funny)

    by gotonull ( 1054170 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:05PM (#21218273)
    Hu talks about IT warfare?

  • Leaders (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    China's got a premier who was a hydraulic engineer and can even know and understand words like logistics.

    India's got a prime minister who is an economist and was the head honcho of the finance ministry.

    Wonder if Bush even understands the word logistics.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by ScrewMaster ( 602015 )
      Personally, I think that President Bush is a prototype AI that got hit by lightning.

      • Personally, I think that President Bush is a prototype AI that got hit by lightning.

        I think they just put the battery in backwards. That, and they rushed the code out the door for the elections. Not much chance to debug the stupid thing.

  • And the U.S. is collaborating ... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by foobsr ( 693224 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:12PM (#21218367) Homepage Journal
    ... , for instance at this place [arizona.edu], where we have, as only one example of a high ranking AI-researcher, Dr. Feiyue Wang, Chinese Academy of Sciences (also advisor to the government), who does interesting research like, e.g. "Pedestrian Detection from a Moving Vehicle" (translate for yourself). I had this person on the radar [blogspot.com] earlier.

    CC.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by FleaPlus ( 6935 )
      for instance at this place, where we have, as only one example of a high ranking AI-researcher, Dr. Feiyue Wang, Chinese Academy of Sciences (also advisor to the government), who does interesting research like, e.g. "Pedestrian Detection from a Moving Vehicle" (translate for yourself). I had this person on the radar earlier.

      Could you be a little bit more explicit about what you're implying? I'm not sure I see why you're so paranoid about a Chinese person doing computer vision research. Of course, I might b

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by foobsr ( 693224 )
        Pedestrian Detection from a Moving Vehicle

        =identifying targets from a vehicle

        I am not paranoid about 'a Chinese person', but about the ubiquitous presence of this ( context: [ia.ac.cn] ... has published over 200 books, book chapters, journal papers, conference proceedings and technical reports in mechanics, intelligent control, robotics and automation. Currently, Dr. Wang is the Secretary-Elect of the IEEE Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Council, members of the ExCom and AdCom of IEEE ITS Council and IEE

  • No one can win in "IT warfare" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by webmaster404 ( 1148909 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:13PM (#21218369)
    No one can win in "IT warfare" because no matter what you do, as long as someone has the desire to, they will hack and crack it. Think about the iPod's checksum, it was defeated within a few days. HD-DVD and DVDs are cracked and some are reporting Blu-Ray cracked too. And for "skills" in IT, think about how "high tech" America is, yet the average consumer doesn't know any more then how to use an iPod, get around in Word and surf the net, and whenever MS or Apple comes out with a new version we spend millions for "retraining" the fact is, unless you know how to program, and how things work (technically not just that an iPod plays music from a hard drive to your speakers) you can never succeed, the fact is that in IT and the internet, anyone can succeed not just one class/country and right now the "geeks" are dominating not the FBI, CIA or any other government, its the geeks that will win just give it some time. Already there is a "class devision" in technology, some people know how to install RAM, install Linux, use Linux, fix a broken hard drive, how USB and other peripherals work and some spend over $500 on a proprietary OS that doesn't even hardly fit their needs and tech support to fix what they break. Nothing other then the open-sourcing of all code will change that. Just wait 5 years and the average /. reader will have the skills needed to thrive and those who have spent thousands going to "business school" will be working in a way for the "geeks"

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by geekoid ( 135745 )
      I note that your example depends on access to the device.

      I have a red computer name "Herring".
      I invite you to hack it.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by LingNoi ( 1066278 )

      Just wait 5 years and the average /. reader will have the skills needed to thrive and those who have spent thousands going to "business school" will be working in a way for the "geeks"
      You really don't know how the world works. The dumber you are the higher up the food chain you go. Why do you think there are so many incompetent managers about?! Tech jobs always means you're at the bottom of the barrel.

    • that's stupid (Score:5, Insightful)

      by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <circletimessquar ... m minus language> on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:44PM (#21218751) Homepage Journal
      that's like saying that if you don't know how to disassemble an internel combustion engine, you'll never be able to drive anywhere

      the computer is just a tool. knowing how the tool works means you'll make a good salary, not run the world. you're an engineer, not a leader

      it is in fact a mark of your naivete that you think mastery of a computer means mastery of the real world

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by g1zmo ( 315166 )
        In the context of "IT warfare" (which is what TFA, and presumably this discussion, is about), the master of the computer is the master of society. Otherwise, you're just the guy who can't cash his check because some Chinese cracker DOS'ed the payroll system.
        • More like you're the guy that lost his job because China's hacking group broke in through a zero-day exploit (they do have copies of the W2K source code, ya know), stole the blueprints for your new widget and gave it to a Chinese company who now sells clones for 1/4rd the price. Or that 5 billion that the US Army invested in high tech weapons research is wasted because the Chinese hacked in, downloaded the plans and suddenly are on the same playing field without any investment at all. It's far cheaper to
      • I'm sure BillG would agree with you, or maybe he'd think you just have a simplistic worlview. Meh.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Tim C ( 15259 )
          Congratulations, you have one counter-example. Would you care for me to provide a list of examples to counter yours, or shall we just agree that there are tens of thousands and leave it at that?

          If webmaster404 was correct, then you'd expect the list of the world's richest people to be full of geeks, for the board members of most large national and multinational companies to be mostly geeks. That simply isn't the case.
          • So Bill Gates is suddenly poor? And I'm not meaning that all of them are "geeks" currently but when technology is everywhere it will be the geeks that know how to use it that will save/make more money. How many American/European households spend several hundred dollars setting up a wireless network, an HD-TV, fixing Windows when it blue screens again, I know that many many people spend needless hundreds of dollars doing that. And right now, technology (As in repogrammable devices) aren't everywhere, sure
          • Logic isn't a game of "my counterexamples are more numerous than yours". That's a playground debating tactic.
    • Indeed. To borrow the words of a famous voice synthesizer, "The only winning move is not to play."

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Tim C ( 15259 )
      And for "skills" in IT, think about how "high tech" America is, yet the average consumer doesn't know any more then how to use an iPod, get around in Word and surf the net

      So what? You don't have to know how a tool works to be able to use it, and computers are merely sophisticated tools.

      Just wait 5 years and the average /. reader will have the skills needed to thrive and those who have spent thousands going to "business school" will be working in a way for the "geeks"

      People have been saying that sort of thin

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by yog ( 19073 ) *
      The Chinese have for years been talking publicly about asymmetrical warfare that has as its cornerstone the concept of computer network cracking.

      One may ask, precisely what enemy are they gearing up to fight? The obvious answer would be the United States, whom they have been bashing in their official speeches. Confusingly, the U.S. is also one of their biggest investors and their biggest single market and so anything that hurts the U.S. will inevitably harm them as well.

      I wonder what Chinese businesspeopl
      • "but it only will happen when the Chinese people perceive that the Communist regime has become a total liability. 800 million people in rural areas are close to this perception"

        Didn't happen during Mao's cultural revolution when these same people were decimated via a government inspired famine, why would it happen now that 40yrs of successive goverments have dragged them back above the poverty line? China has lifted more people out of poverty over the last 30-40yrs than the rest of the planet combined, i
    • "No one can win in IT warfare"

      Not US, EU, China ... Christianity, Islam ..., but someone would win ... if pushed to war by US, EU, China ... Maybe M$, Halliburton-Blackwater, Walmart ... and ... could win, but far more likely is humanity science and technology warriors/SF would eventually force the unconditional capitulation of all corporations, religions, governments, plutocrats ....

      US, EU, China, Russia, France ... and other faux-democratic, pseudo-representative, and propaganda-populist governments prove
      • I find your ideas intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
        • I have never been overly public, never blogged or distributed a newsletter, but I like commenting on almost any topic, and providing answers to questions asked me. Due to some mental anomalies ... I lack focus/interest to achieve almost anything. I am 55yo+, a high school dropout, no college graduation/degree with 160SemHrs+, curiosity and questions are my greatest perpetual distractions and entertainment. I am honored to have been a US Marine at 17yo, 1969-71, but never in Vietnam.

          Anyway, all comments I ma

  • Say wot? (Score:2, Funny)

    by jo42 ( 227475 )
    No more Big Red Button hooked up to a Big Red Nuke?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Airw0lf ( 795770 )

      No more Big Red Button hooked up to a Big Red Nuke?
      It's now a big red button displayed on a big touch screen.

  • Thats cool by me (Score:3, Funny)

    by QuantumRiff ( 120817 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:18PM (#21218447)
    They have 4 times our population, but we have more IP Addresses then they do!!! Take that!

    On a more serious note, how hard would it be (if they pissed off enough country's) to null route all their IPs at the core peering points?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by kanweg ( 771128 )
      I thought China had IPv6.

      Bert
      Who suffered from the Slashdot time limit because he can use 10 fingers to type quickly and now has to spend his time to write this post-script to defeat the time limit. Let's give it another try.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by ILuvRamen ( 1026668 )
      well that's just dumb. In war you've gotta have some balls! Enough citizens and businesses in China have a valid copy of a windows OS that if Microsoft released a China only windows update that wipes their hard drives, so many businesses would fail, it would kill their economy like throwing a grenade at a groundhog. I mean just think, if 1% of all business computers in China had a legitimate copy of windows and downloaded and installed the update, that could be like the utilities going down or major nati

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by pembo13 ( 770295 )

      On a more serious note, how hard would it be (if they pissed off enough country's) to null route all their IPs at the core peering points?
      As easy as it would be to do so to the United State of America

  • Question (Score:3, Funny)

    by kaoshin ( 110328 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:19PM (#21218459)
    Sorry, I've been backed up in work and out of touch with the news. Who did China declare war on? I'm so confused.

    • The Republic of China [wikipedia.org] is under a persistent threat of a (Mainland) Chinese attack. United States has long ago promised to defend them, so we have to listen carefully (and take notes!), when the current rival — and an unlikely-but-possible future enemy — talks about any kind of war.

      Sooner or later China may also decide to begin solving its (over)population issues by expanding into Siberia, whose population density was always far smaller (orders of magnitude smaller) than China's and is now shri [voanews.com]

  • In other news.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by nebaz ( 453974 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:20PM (#21218469)
    President Hu also challenged the Chinese electrical system to develop faster forms of power recovery, so when power goes out, pertaining to laptops, Hu's will be on first.

  • Well... (Score:4, Funny)

    by kmac06 ( 608921 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:27PM (#21218523)
    So if this is anything like our State of the Union address, none of this will ever happen?
  • He's marketing defense because they've already have the offense down pat.

  • military training under IT-based conditions (Score:5, Funny)

    by poopie ( 35416 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:30PM (#21218565) Journal
    Translation: We're going to play a lot of Halo 3

  • Somebody set up us the bomb. (Score:4, Funny)

    by my_left_nut ( 1161359 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:31PM (#21218575)
    All your base are belong to us!

    With great justice!

    Carry out military training under IT-based conditions!

    • You mean all your base are belong to Microsoft?
      Really, unless China can get a hold of the source code for Windows (any one else laughing at what would ensue if that happened?) or start to use Linux more (which doesn't seem to be the case with $3 crack Windows) they won't be able to do code audits. What's worse is Microsoft can be bought for a tax rebate by the US government. So good luck on all that. But the US is in the same boat... which is why Microsoft is going to become the next world government unles

  • They're doomed, we will win (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    We have better trolls. Suck it, China!

  • His Plans Are Clear (Score:5, Funny)

    by Hoi Polloi ( 522990 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:34PM (#21218599) Journal
    He means for China to cut off our supply of farmed WoW gold. Gentlemen, we must not allow a WoW gold gap!

  • NCW (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mattjb0010 ( 724744 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:36PM (#21218615) Homepage
    Anyone else read this as talking about NCW (net centric warfare) and not cyberattacks?

  • Mistranslated? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I think it's obvious that what President Hu is talking about isn't necessarily "cyberwar" (I.T. as we've come to think of it in the U.S.), but the same sort of "networked warfare" that the Pentagon has been spewing about for the last several years. Everyone has recognized that the U.S. dominance on the battlefield is a result of our technological edge, in particular the use of computers and digital communications. China is going to want to replicate that in their own armed forces if they want to remain mi

  • Comment removed (Score:3, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:40PM (#21218669)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Step Followers, Not Engineers. Begin Human Wave! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jujuchef ( 452269 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:47PM (#21218787)
    Don't tase me bro, but this is because they have no encouraged cability to think for themselves. China wants to use the tried and true method of 'if you throw enough resources at something, we'll get a result'. This is counter to the Communist rule in which they exist. To a certain degree, it is very similar to the notion that it is OK for an American to not be patriotic, or even speak out against his government in modern-day without being labled negatively or face real-life harm because of exercising ones right (ie, believe in God or you can't be a good American).

    There have been a number of projects that I have worked on in IT with Chinese consultants based in China. The shocking (and most often shocking) revelation I have had is the persistance for step by step instructions to almost everything. I sometimes find myself wondering what it is exactly (other than a recently over-changed government policy that now embraces MS) they actually utilize, but more importantly contribute, the usefulness of OSS because of the amount of outside thinking and experimentation that is needed to become comfortable using such systems.

    Anecdote is this: China constultants assists in co-coding a massive project that involves originally western-sourced code. Upon being provided an API and an approach-based guidline to expand on the source, they insist on step by step instructions and 'scripts' for things as simple as using a copy command. Now being well-versed in J2EE projects, I would expect more than 'step 72 gives this error, everything is broke'. Eventually when you find out that step 72 broke because the pre-requisites and steps 13-20 were ommitted, you can't help but wonder how to teach the taught, 'thought' and encouraging different approaches to a solution.

  • Obligatory George Bush joke (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 02, 2007 @06:48PM (#21218799)
    Bush: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening?
    Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.
    Bush: Great. Lay it on me.
    Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.
    Bush: That's what I want to know.
    Condi: That's what I'm telling you.
    Bush: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China?
    Condi: Yes.
    Bush: I mean the fellow's name.
    Condi: Hu.
    Bush: The guy in China.
    Condi: Hu.
    Bush: The new leader of China.
    Condi: Hu.
    Bush: The Chinaman!
    Condi: Hu is leading China.
    Bush: Now whaddya' asking me for?
    Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China.
    Bush: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China?
    Condi: That's the man's name.
    Bush: That's who's name?
    Condi: Yes.
    Bush: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China?
    Condi: Yes, sir.
    Bush: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle
                    East.
    Condi: That's correct.
    Bush: Then who is in China?
    Condi: Yes, sir.
    Bush: Yassir is in China?
    Condi: No, sir.
    Bush: Then who is?
    Condi: Yes, sir.
    Bush: Yassir?
    Condi: No, sir.
    Bush: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China.
                    Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.
    Condi: Kofi?
    Bush: No, thanks.
    Condi: You want Kofi?
    Bush: No.
    Condi: You don't want Kofi.
    Bush: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk.
                    And then get me the U.N.
    Condi: Yes, sir.
    Bush: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.
    Condi: Kofi?
    Bush: Milk! Will you please make the call?
    Condi: And call who?
    Bush: Who is the guy at the U.N?
    Condi: Hu is the guy in China.
    Bush: Will you stay out of China?!
    Condi: Yes, sir.
    Bush: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.
    Condi: Kofi.
    Bush: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.
    (Condi picks up the phone.)
    Condi: Rice, here.
    Bush: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. Maybe we should
                    send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you get
                    Chinese food in the Middle East?
  • Terminator, Robocop, the Matrix and a decades worth of Gundam just made it through the censors last weekend and now everyones shitting themselves.
  • I'll be able to take the blanket complete block of all Chinese IP addresses out of my firewall? That sort of defense?

    Clean up your networks, and you might see my customers again. The million to one, attack vs. customer ratio is what you aughta fix you fascist fucks.

  • Mistranslation (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Fieryphoenix ( 1161565 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @09:04PM (#21220143)
    Now, I do not speak any form of Chinese, but I have read a damn lot of Engrish. Especially given the surrounding statements, this sounds like he's talking about computerizing the army. Just because the word IT is mentioned doesn't make it cyberwarfare. My impression of his remarks as quoted in the article is that he wants Chinese soldiers to have similar capabilties as US forces are. There's just too little information, the terms are NOT the standard english phrases that would be used to describe it, so I suspect a bad translation and assumptions went into making this article. I would want a tranlator WELL fluent in both Enlgish and Chinese to affirm that the Chinese words here translated as "IT based warfare" meant "cyberwarefare" and not "computer assisted soldiering".
  • It's a Universal Hardware OS - it's effectively invisible.

    I know, you think I'm kidding - I"m not.

  • F**king Fascists (Score:3, Funny)

    by unity100 ( 970058 ) on Friday November 02, 2007 @11:06PM (#21220895) Homepage Journal
    For the first time in the civilization's history, there is an invention that brings ENTIRE world together, yet some crowd can only think of "warfare" "strong armed force" "defense" (defense my butt, anything for defense is always for offense) and shit.

    If you let derelict, obsolete old coots run a nation, this happens. Repression of the elder citizens. I bet many of them still live in 1950s mindset.

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