KDE 4.0 RC 1 Released 334
angryfirelord writes "The KDE Community is happy to announce the immediate availability of the first release candidate for KDE 4.0. This release candidate marks that the majority of the components of KDE 4.0 are now approaching release quality.
While the final bits of Plasma, the brand new desktop shell and panel in KDE 4, are falling into place, the KDE community decided to publish a first release candidate for the KDE 4.0 Desktop. Release Candidate 1 is the first preview of KDE 4.0 which is suitable for general use and discovering the improvements that have taken place all over the KDE codebase."
Slashdotted. (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdotted (Score:5, Informative)
Screenshots (Score:5, Informative)
I like the widget and window theme, but the kicker replacement at the bottom looks pretty tacky. It was the same in beta, and I'd hoped they'd change it for release, but it seems like they're sticking with it.
Screenshots and previews of slightly olderreleases (Score:4, Informative)
Coming together (Score:5, Informative)
So KDE 4.0 will be cool, KDE 4.0 + 6 months of people creating fun plasmoids, even cooler.
KDE 4 Live CD (Score:5, Informative)
http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ [kde.org]
Have a lot of fun!
Re:Yes but... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Did they de-fat KDE (Score:5, Informative)
And yet, despite all the extra features and configurability, KDE still manages to use about the same resources as GNOME:
http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html [kde.org]http://spooky-possum.org/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/kdevsgnome.html [spooky-possum.org]
KDE doesn't have much fat; it has muscle.
Re:Screenshots (Score:5, Informative)
No, it's gonna look like this [imageshack.us]. In fact, it already does in CVS apparently.
Re:KDE4 Graphics (Score:3, Informative)
Yes. There already is, in fact. Aaron Seigo has prepared a screencast which will be linked with this week's Commit Digest. Among other things, it shows the true transparency of Plasma applets and the panel. Also, you can check out these old (non-Plasma related) kwin_composite videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBLlc6xCQ4 [youtube.com]
Eavesdropping on IRC, I get the feeling that aseigo hates this hack more than you do ;)
Re:KDE vs Gnome (Score:5, Informative)
I recently had a very busy weekend trying edubutu, ubunutu, xubuntu, and gOS on an IBM T40, with mixed results.
I did not get around to kubuntu, perhaps I should have.
Me, myself... I'm using Kubuntu. I just like KDE better and am familiar enough with it to deal with Kubuntu's occasional rough edge. You might feel inclined to test those waters once you're feeling like you've got a good footing.
It should be stressed that the issue of Gnome vs. KDE (vs. Blackbox, Enlightenment, etc., etc.) is mostly a matter of interface and taste. The applications you run aren't necessarily restricted by your desktop... even if they are often bundled with one project or another.
Decent Software - But the Marketing? (Score:2, Informative)
KDE Project Ships First Release Candidate for Leading Free Software Desktop, Codename "Calamity"
Re:FreeDesktop.org? (Score:3, Informative)
KDE has dropped DCOP and uses DBus now, I suppose thats the biggest news on the fd.o front.
Re:Fat or muscle? (Score:1, Informative)
For the most part the configuration is much better as well. When I used KDE I'd spend days tweaking everything to get it to a state I want and then I wouldn't be saitified and would up doing even more tweaking. With Ubuntu's Gnome, though, the only things I have to do is get rid of the brown (Clearlooks Classic + Tango and a blue background), enable delete in Nautilus (browser is already enabled, I despise the one window per folder that Gnome (and Fedora) defaults to), and get set the toolbars to "Text beside items". For most apps I really don't feel the need to bother changing anything unlike the endless tweaking I did with KDE.
Re:Yes but... (Score:3, Informative)
I miss KMail, like the desert misses the rain.
Re:Before we get into a GNOME vs KDE flamewar... (Score:3, Informative)
Neither Firefox or the GIMP are gnome apps. They use GTK, but the gnome libraries are entirely optional.
And things like the portland project aim to allow apps to use native file dialogs for the environment they're running in.
Re:That's nice (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Fat or muscle? (Score:1, Informative)
Amen. Gnomebaker is a joke. While we're on the subject, Evolution is irritating and buggy while KMail is actually pleasant to use.
Re:You forgot how FS release schedules work (Score:1, Informative)
Re:do not stop progress by not wanting 'bloat'... (Score:3, Informative)
So yes, to sum it up, just generally claiming that KDE is more bloated than GNOME is a nonsense and has been for a long time (and maybe even that's never been true, for fair comparisons, but I don't remember anybody doing one in the long past, at most various flawed comparisons).
PS: And, just in case you find some similarity between my nick and the URL of the first comparison, it is not incidental.