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BSA Software Piracy Fight Smacks of RIAA Crackdown 282

Ron Paul Dennis Kucinich writes "A Business Software Alliance raid on musical-instrument maker Ernie Ball Inc. cost the company $90,000 in a settlement. Soon after, Microsoft sent other businesses in the region around Ball's a flyer offering discounts on software licenses, along with a reminder not to wind up like Ernie Ball. Enraged, CEO Sterling Ball vowed never to use Microsoft software again, even if 'we have to buy 10,000 abacuses.' Similar BSA raids around the country have been provoking strong reactions from put-upon business owners, echoing similar reactions to music-lovers targeted by the RIAA."
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BSA Software Piracy Fight Smacks of RIAA Crackdown

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  • by MostAwesomeDude ( 980382 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @05:35AM (#21476573) Homepage
    Both cheaper, and more powerful.

    Also, I have a lot of respect for Ernie Ball products; their guitar strings are my favorite. I'm relating this story to my local LUG. They deserve some respect for publicly denouncing MS.
  • Dupe (Score:5, Informative)

    by phayes ( 202222 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @05:36AM (#21476581) Homepage
    This is the oldest dupe I've seen on slashdot! [slashdot.org]
  • by Macthorpe ( 960048 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @05:42AM (#21476617) Journal

    Yep, if you read TFA, that's what they did.
    Yep. About 5 years ago. [infoworld.com]

    Seriously, this is old.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 26, 2007 @05:45AM (#21476639)
    I [heart] Apple, and I'm typing this on a PowerBook right now, but they're a member of the BSA.
  • 2002 News? Really? (Score:5, Informative)

    by svunt ( 916464 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @05:50AM (#21476651) Homepage Journal
    Five years is an awfully long time ago. Heads up, editors :)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 26, 2007 @06:02AM (#21476713)
    fckgw-rhqq2-yxrkt-8tg6w-2b7q8

    that's from memory...

    i wonder how many machines were loaded with that key.
  • Re:Dupe (Score:5, Informative)

    by RuBLed ( 995686 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @06:05AM (#21476737)
    Actually TFS was the "big" dupe, the contents of TFA is at least not.. TFS was extracted from the bottom "past references" because it sounds sensational. (I would even have a hard time finding TFS from TFA if not for Search)
  • by nacturation ( 646836 ) <nacturation&gmail,com> on Monday November 26, 2007 @06:31AM (#21476859) Journal
    It goes like this:

    BSA: "We have reliable evidence from a confidential source [read: disgruntled (ex-)employee] that you don't have valid licenses to the software you use."
    Company: "You don't have any authority over us. GTFO."
    BSA: "Fine."

    [BSA starts suit against company, submits evidence to a judge, and during the discovery period requests complete documentation of all software being run on company systems, along with licenses and date of purchase. If company fails to provide, BSA files for a motion to compel or some such legal mumbo-jumbo that basically gives the BSA the judge-approved legal right to take apart every computer and really ruin their day.]

    BSA: "According to what we found, it appears you're liable for tens of millions of dollars of damages according to current copyright fines."
    Company: "Err... gosh, maybe we overlooked purchasing a few hundred software licenses here and there. Our bad. Say, do you have any kind of compliance deal for companies like ours who accidentally used unlicensed software on every computer we own and where we don't have to admit guilt?"
    BSA: "Sure, just fork over $90,000 on top of paying our legal bills and purchasing licenses for all that software we discovered, you admit no wrongdoing, but you also agree to annual audits from here on."
    Company: "Yeah, again, our bad... hey, who should we make this payable to?"

    [Company makes the payment, BSA cashes it, company buys licenses to all software, and BSA files motion to dismiss suit.]
     
  • by Technician ( 215283 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @07:06AM (#21477025)
    Over those years though I can't recount how many times a customer would need a windows re-install, or an office re-install, whatever. I'd ask for the original CD and they'd tell me "Don't you have a copy?"

    At the same time, did you insist on a copy of the sales reciept?

    The BSA is considering copies with certificates of authenticity as sketchy if they are missing the sales reciepts. At home, anything off warranty is missing the sales reciept. The news of the BSA audits is definately encouraging me to go 100% legit. I have a machine that came with Windows that was given to me brand new. I don't have a reciept. It is currently dual boot, but the next hard drive replacement won't include the bundled software.

    The software license for some software is licensed for installation on only one PC. The license for some other software is licensed for any PC you or your family has, and may be freely copied and given away as long as you comply with the requirements of the license, such as providing a copy of the source code.

    Guess which software license I prefer.
  • by Daengbo ( 523424 ) <daengbo@gmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Monday November 26, 2007 @07:11AM (#21477057) Homepage Journal
    Apparently everyone who knows the case agrees that Ernie Ball didn't intend to pirate. Things like that happen in businesses, especially small ones. Responsibilities move and the software moves with them. People install random stuff without authorization. Receipts get lost (I understand that the BSA requires not only proof of licens but proof of purchase, as well).

    Saying "Don't pirate" is easy. Getting a company of any size to reach 100% compliance is utterly painful. It's no different than being autdited by the IRS -- they're going to get you for something.
  • Re:Seriously though (Score:4, Informative)

    by Technician ( 215283 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @07:16AM (#21477091)
    I work in IT, and I pay for software that I use, if I can't afford it I find something else - its no excuse to copy it.

    Do you have a copy of the reciept for every piece of software? That thumb drive that uses an encryption program... which is installed on the PC, where is the reciept for that $10 thumb drive? No reciept is a violation... Just ask the BSA or read the article. There is almost nobody in full compliance. My biggest violation is a lack of reciepts. All my copies of MS Office are in violation except the newest one simply because I haven't kept the reciepts.

    These violations are being weeded out as I migrate to Ubuntu and dispose of the obsolete high liability software.
  • by SCHecklerX ( 229973 ) <greg@gksnetworks.com> on Monday November 26, 2007 @07:39AM (#21477251) Homepage
    For visio, you could use OODraw, with some templates. Or use cad software with the same. I'm aware of Dia, but I've used it a couple of times and wasn't overly impressed.
  • by Panaqqa ( 927615 ) * on Monday November 26, 2007 @08:03AM (#21477375) Homepage
    After all, if it's good enough to be Boeing's primary 3D CAD tool, it should work for autocad users. Not sure if it's available for Linux yet, but Sun's Solaris will run it.

    Check it out here [wikipedia.org].
  • by ricegf ( 1059658 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @08:26AM (#21477515) Journal

    a company was rightfully fined for using Microsoft software illegally

    No, a company was fined for not being able to prove they were not using Microsoft software illegally.

    Although the EULA doesn't state they must provide a receipt for the software, or that the "Certificate of Authenticity" doesn't certify that the software is authentic (go figure), that is the standard to which Microsoft holds its customers on penalty of lawsuit or (more commonly) extortion.

    I received two letters from the BSA in 2003, both warning me that I could be liable for "hundreds of thousands of dollars" if they audit my business and I am unable to prove that every copy of their member company's software was legally purchased. They helpfully offered, "Can your business afford that risk?"

    Y'know, I couldn't. I switched to free-as-in-freedom software.

  • Re:Dupe (Score:3, Informative)

    by Asmodai ( 13932 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @08:29AM (#21477541) Homepage
    And why link to an intermediate site instead of the real article?

    http://www.news.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html [news.com]
  • by earthforce_1 ( 454968 ) <earthforce_1@yah o o .com> on Monday November 26, 2007 @08:37AM (#21477583) Journal
    Maybe they would want to end up like him.

    I read an interview with Ernie Ball after the raid. He DID switch to Red Hat Linux, and by his estimate saves $100K per year. He thanked microsoft for the money he is now saving.
  • Re:10,000 Abacuses? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jesus_666 ( 702802 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @08:51AM (#21477703)
    Actually, Ernie Ball uses RedHat [news.com].
  • Re:BSA Tip Line (Score:4, Informative)

    by oboreruhito ( 925965 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @09:37AM (#21478089)
    Submitter sent in the wrong story, I'm assuming. The Associated Press ran a much more recent story yesterday [google.com] about two things that have come to light since Ernie Ball: 1. The BSA does have a tip line now, with a $1 million reward for whistleblowers. 2. 90 percent of the BSA's $13 million in settlements came not from larger businesses with hundreds or thousands of employees, like Ernie Ball, but from much smaller firms that don't have the legal resources to even begin to fight the BSA, and who arguably don't have the legal representation to even understand the licenses to which they're agreeing. $90,000 isn't as much to Ernie Ball as $67,000 is to the 10-employee architectural firm in that AP story. What's scary is that the BSA is going after pittances - one or two violated licenses - on anonymous employee tips. From the AP article:

    BSA enforcement director Jenny Blank disputes the notion that her group is encouraging employees to exploit mere technicalities and "onesy, twosy random noncompliance." That's why, she said, it focuses on the worst offenders. Yet in 2005, her group pursued Mediaport Entertainment Inc. of Salt Lake City, where an audit revealed just two unlicensed copies of Microsoft software. Retail value: $6,500. The BSA pressed for $16,500; the sides reached an undisclosed settlement.
    Bottom line: Don't use BSA software, and don't trust your employees. Even if you do nothing but Linux, there's still ways some disgruntled employee can leave behind pirated, or even legal-but-mismanaged (shared folder, circumvented license administration) copies of a BSA program on a few systems, call the BSA, and get his $1 million while you try to get a $20,000 "fine" down to a $10,000 settlement.
  • by T.E.D. ( 34228 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @12:03PM (#21479781)

    I'd ask for the original CD and they'd tell me "Don't you have a copy?"

    According to TFA, original media doesn't matter to the BSA. What they want is your original reciept. If you don't still have that you just as out of compliance. Meanwhile, if your media-less wonders have their reciepts, they are just peachy.
  • by Scrameustache ( 459504 ) on Monday November 26, 2007 @12:20PM (#21479965) Homepage Journal

    START SLIDING FUCKING NOBS ACROSS STICKS.
    They have clubs downtown where men do that every weekend...
  • Re:10,000 Abacuses? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 26, 2007 @12:43PM (#21480285)
    From a related article. [yahoo.com]

    "Beyond hunting for dicey characters buying and selling counterfeits, the BSA also devotes significant attention to other forms of what it calls piracy by business users. The money harvested in these company-by-company crackdowns is not parceled to its members whose copyrights were infringed; the funds stay with the BSA to fuel its operations. (BSA's worldwide settlements soared 53 percent last year to $56 million.)"

    I could list a number of reasons why this statement alone pisses me off, but I'd be wasting my breath. I'd be hard pressed to find someone on this site that would disagree with anything I would have to say. Read through the article, see if you can do it without thinking something rotten about the BSA.

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