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Acid3 Test Released 309

An anonymous reader writes ""The Web Standards Project has announced the release of Acid3, the latest test designed to expose flaws in the implementation of mature Web standards in browsers. 'By making sure their software adheres to the test, the creators of these products can be more confident that their software will display and function with Web pages correctly both now and with Web pages of the future. The Acid3 Test is designed to test specifications for Web 2.0, and exposes potential flaws in implementations of the public ECMAScript 262 and W3C Document Object Model 2 standards.' Screenshots at the Drunken Fist site show the success of Safari 3 (which originally scored 31, but is now Scoring 87/100) IE6, and IE7 (massive fail, of course)'." There are additional discussions of the new test happening around the web.
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Acid3 Test Released

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  • Re:Firefox (Score:5, Interesting)

    by caerwyn ( 38056 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @04:57PM (#22655036)
    Interestingly, I'm not getting an 87 with Safari 3.0.4- I'm getting a 39.
  • Re:Firefox 2.0.0.12 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Jugalator ( 259273 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @05:01PM (#22655096) Journal

    Opera 9.5 is the best I tested at 65.
    It better be good, since Håkon Wium Lie, Chief Technical Officer of Opera Software, worked together with Bert Bos to develop the CSS standard.

    I'm not sure how many actually knows this. *shrug*
  • by dskoll ( 99328 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @06:15PM (#22656052) Homepage
    Seriously... if no browser gets 100/100, how do the test creators generate the reference image? And how do they know there are no bugs in their test? I'm genuinely curious...
  • by Arimus ( 198136 ) on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @07:11PM (#22656786)
    They've got their own browser which is 100% standards compliant. However it can not be used for normal web browsing as it will make most web pages in existence today look a right dogs dinner as their browser is strict to say the least about how it renders pages, which means all the kludges for IE and every other browser will seriously break their browser.
  • by CodeShark ( 17400 ) <ellsworthpc@NOSpAM.yahoo.com> on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @07:22PM (#22656900) Homepage
    Passes 59 tests in Xp. Interesting Stats:
    • 37 of the tests that fail in FF 2.X are also fails in FF 3.0 beta.
    • Three of the fails are significantly different, not sure if this means progress or not
    • 1 fail is a minor difference
    • Firefox 2 passed a test (#69) that FF 3 did not
    • and finally, FF 3.0 passes 8 tests directly that FF 2.0 does not.

      • That said, I looked at a couple of the notes on Bugzilla for Firefox and they are already looking at the bug list... wonder who will be the fastest to fix the most....

  • W3C validator (Score:4, Interesting)

    by atomic-penguin ( 100835 ) <wolfe21 AT marshall DOT edu> on Wednesday March 05, 2008 @08:02PM (#22657388) Homepage Journal
    If these acid tests are based on standards. Why is the only acid test that passes the W3C validator, the Acid 1 test?

    1. Acid 1 [w3.org]
    2. Acid 2 [w3.org]
    3. Acid 3 [w3.org]


    Perhaps, I am missing the point of these acid tests. I'm not a web developer by trade, so I don't claim to be an expert on CSS. From personal experience, CSS has allowed me to use much less complex HTML in the little web publishing I have done. I never seem to get consistent results when I test my pages in different browsers. I hope that these "standards" Acid tests lead to greater compatibility across browsers.

    Do these tests increase compatibility by pushing the envelope on new standards, or are they just a browser-war pissing contest?
  • Re:Firefox (Score:3, Interesting)

    by John Whitley ( 6067 ) on Thursday March 06, 2008 @12:54AM (#22659760) Homepage
    With Firefox 3.0 beta 3, I upped that to 59/100 by turning off AdBlock Plus on the test page.
  • Re:Firefox (Score:3, Interesting)

    by zerocool^ ( 112121 ) on Thursday March 06, 2008 @01:44AM (#22660062) Homepage Journal

    Besides, I see these as a process or goal -- giving the browser makers something concrete and visual to shoot for, as well as an easy way for users to judge the quality of their browser of choice.

    Bullshit. The Acid tests have become the SAT's of the browser world. People *think* it's a measure of how standards compliant your browser is, but all it *really* is, is a measure of how well your browser does on the acid test.

    That's it, nothing more, nothing less. The acid test is incredibly nit-picky and it's possible to even argue some of the decisions the guy has made about how things should be rendered (i.e. questioning his interpretation of the standard). And it's important that if your browser fails the acid test, but looks fine when you surf fark/slashdot/cnn/myspace, then whothefuck cares? The browser exists to deliver content to you; not to make some jackass feel happy that his CSS and Ajax code is the hardest thing to render in the known fucking universe.

    I really, really wish people would get over the Acid tests; perhaps in favor of "the CNN test", or the "does it work with my proprietary intranet badly-coded webapps?" test. If it passes these, then just roll with it.

    ~Wx
  • Re:Firefox 2.0.0.12 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF ( 813746 ) on Thursday March 06, 2008 @01:45AM (#22660070)

    3b3 gets a 61. Opera 9.5 is the best I tested at 65. Safarai 3.0.4 for Windows got a 39. IE7 got a 12 and also managed to mangle the page the most.

    Your numbers are quite different than mine. I scripted all the browsers/OS's I had handy from the sunspider javascript test last week and ran them on Acid3. The results are here [slashdot.org].

    Where do you get a nightly of Opera? I ran the beta version they have up tonight and got 59/100 on OS X and it crashed on Linux and Windows XP. In any case, the best number I got was Safari 3.0.4 with a week old nightly of Webkit on OS X, which got 86/100. The Firefox 3 beta also did well getting 67/100 on OS X and Linux (but only 59 on Windows for some reason). Other people have gotten slightly better numbers for both using a more recent nightly of Firefox or Webkit.

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