Matrix-Like VR Coming in the Near Future? 249
Anonymongoose writes "A researcher at Brookhaven National Lab reckons it could be just a few years before computers can pass through the uncanny valley. The article refers to this as a 'Graphics Turing Test': 'a computer can be considered intelligent if it can create an artificial world capable of fooling a person into believing it is the real thing.' Michael McGuigan has been performing some interesting experiments using Brookhaven's Blue Gene/L supercomputer and has shown that it can produce realistic lighting effects in real time. McGuigan's original research paper (pdf) is available online."
Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
"Researchers" did or said something: x
"A few years" before the tech is out: x
Promises to change the way we think of computers: x
Shitty PDF "research paper" that was probably written by a half drunk college kid: x
photorealistic != realistic (Score:4, Insightful)
This is assinine. (Score:5, Insightful)
But will we have the model and shading tools, not to mention the physics engines and such to simulate a realistic environment in 5 years? 10? 20? Curiously the article fails to investigate this.
Instead they have a nicely shaded clump of colored balls. Maybe they'll do a teapot next!!!
This isn't the Matrix... (Score:5, Insightful)
But having a direct neural interface, that can mimic all five senses at once, is another thing altogether.
(Not to mention being able to do it for hundreds of thousands of people, some of whom might be spaced out all over the world, with no appreciable lag... Oh, and having many separate strong AIs all running on the same hardware...)
Re:photorealistic != realistic (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Future of Video Games (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:photorealistic != realistic (Score:1, Insightful)
As far as the real world is concerned, Newtonian physics does just fine. Even for simulation of a 45nm computer, we don't need the physics that LHC provides us insights with. It's like hitting an ant with a sledge hammer.
Re:"Matrix-Like" ... sounds like a kid posted (Score:5, Insightful)
The barrier between physical and digital is getting smaller all the time. If you go to a party, you can take a picture with your phone and it'll be on facebook in seconds. Cyberspace isn't going to be an "other" place, it's being grafted onto reality.
Re:This isn't the Matrix... (Score:2, Insightful)
Ummm... (Score:3, Insightful)
Does anyone else feel like maybe there's a step or two missing there?
Fast Computers aren't enough for realistic images (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:photorealistic != realistic (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:photorealistic != realistic (Score:5, Insightful)
Perspective is a very powerful thing. If you know nothing else, it's near impossible to even wonder about how it could be better.
For example, remember when the N64 was new and GoldenEye was the best game ever? I back to GoldenEye every now and then and I wonder how I could ever understand the writing or make out the other players from the background. I've just gotten used to "better" graphics.
Can you imagine a colour that we haven't discovered?
That said, I wouldn't volunteer my children or myself.
Re:photorealistic != realistic (Score:3, Insightful)
War of the Worlds? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not so concerned about the technical issues as I am of the social issues.
I'm reminded of the problems that arose when "The War of the Worlds" was broadcast on the radio and some people thought it was real. That was audio. Then, IIRC, there was a scene in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" where the moon colony made up a video of a leader announcing something, but it wasn't real (sorry about the lack of details - I read it a LONG time ago - I'm sure someone here can elaborate/clarify).
Yes, there are still some technological hurdles to overcome in both hardware and software, but at some point I believe it will be possible to generate a scene that is, for all intents, indistinguishable from reality. Then what?
The geek in me can't wait for the day for us to have this power. The human in me fears for the day it comes.
Re:This isn't the Matrix... (Score:2, Insightful)
Sound: Well, sound is already "good enough." A good pair of headphones with positional audio can pretty much be dead on, and sound can definitely be rendered in real time.
Sight: A stereoscopic headset has too low refresh, generally, but that will come pretty quickly. We already have good enough rendering to look almost photo realistic in real time.
Taste: We can already stimulate/simulate salty, sweet, savory, etc with electrical impulses to the tongue. Not exactly pleasant to wear an interface like that. I'm not too concerned with taste, though.
Smell: Not yet, but it looks possible. I don't really care about this one coming before Touch.
Touch: This is the big one. There are so many different feelings. Hot, cold, wet, pain, pressure, and wind all feel different. I can't see how we can get fine grained touch without stimulation of the nervous system. It's sad there's not more research advanced in this area, because this is the one everyone wants.