MS Clearflow To Help Drivers Avoid Traffic Jams 243
Pioneer Woman writes "Microsoft announced plans to introduce a Web-based service for driving directions that incorporates complex software models to help users avoid traffic jams. The system is intended to reflect the complex traffic interactions that occur as traffic backs up on freeways and spills over onto city streets and will be freely available as part of the company's Live.com site for 72 cities in the US. Microsoft researchers designed algorithms that modeled traffic behavior by collecting trip data from Microsoft employees who volunteered to carry GPS units in their cars. In the end they were able to build a model for predicting traffic based on four years of data, effectively creating individual 'personalities' for over 800,000 road segments in the Seattle region. In all the system tracks about 60 million road segments in the US."
Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
Clear type (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
Ok, ok, I know this sounds like a troll but seriously, when we have a situation where traffic speeds in major cities is declining endlessly we need to look to long term solutions, not tinkering with the symptoms.
hmm, does it learn? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not enough roads? No, too many cars (Score:2, Insightful)
There are several ways to solve this problem:
1) build more efficient roads, i.e. better traffic control, better lane design, better/fewer intersections, better signs, etc.
2) build more roads, but only up to a point
3) reduce the number of cars on the road at peak times
3a) reduce the number of cars
3b) spread the load out over time
Mass transit and congestion taxes are ways to do 3a. Getting employers and schools to shift work times is a way to do 3b.
Re:Swings & Roundabouts (Score:5, Insightful)
Or less cars. Use the bus!
Re:Not enough roads? No, too many cars (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
Ding ding.
Go to Tokyo at rush hour, and observe. The only slowdown that occurs is when one train becomes too full, and people have to wait ~3 minutes for the next one. I never saw a situation where people had to wait for more than one additional train, because the trains can hold a lot of people because they're packed like cattle-cars. On the other hand, Japanese seem to be much better at being fairly quiet and avoiding talking on their cellphones when in such dense quarters, while Americans seem to think that the subway is the best place for talking really loudly on the phone.
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know about your city, but in my city, taking public transport to and from my office would take 2-3x as long on my commute by car, and likely involve at least one transfer.
The problem with public transport, is if it doesn't actually improve my day and make my commute better, I'm not taking it. It's that simple. Make it faster and more convenient to get to my destination, and I'll consider it. I'm not really willing to add 2 hours to my day.
It really is that simple (for me at least). I'd love for public transport to be more usable, but, it isn't. Until it is, the vast majority of people will stick with their cars.
Cheers
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:5, Insightful)
If people looked at driving as a cooperative effort - try and let everyone drive at the speed they want to - then everyone ends having a lot smoother journey. If everyone only acts in their own interests it all gets a bit more stressful and scary.
Necessity of tailgating (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Stop Traffic Jams (Score:3, Insightful)
And no, weaving in and out of traffic with 'efficiency' and not having any accidents does *NOT* mean you know how to drive. it means the exact opposite. If people actually drove according to the rules, there'd be less traffic and people would get where they need to go in a more timely and consistent fashion. I've actually done the test of speeding in the left lane going home from work a couple days and then did it a couple days just doing the speed limit. there was no significant difference. in light traffic, yes, there is a difference, but in rush hour traffic, there's really none.
Prisoner's Delimma (Score:3, Insightful)
I've always thought that traffic is basically one massive game of Prisoner's Delimma [wikipedia.org]. Defecting (swerving lanes, cutting people off) can gain you a bit of time relative to traffic, but only at the cost of slowing overall traffic down. The more people do it, the worse the congestion becomes for everyone.
Re:Necessity of tailgating (Score:3, Insightful)