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Flock Delivers On Promises Post 1.0 65

Posted by ScuttleMonkey
from the still-listed-under-the-fad-catagory dept.
Linux.com has a quick look back at the social web browser Flock, now that it has passed the 1.0 hurdle. The main complaint seems to be sensory overload, but there are definitely some interesting tidbits in there. "Version 1.1 really shines in its enhancements to the MyWorld page, including the Friend Activity Feed. Once you've logged into all your social networking services, you can drag and drop messages from one friend to another. For example, if Sally makes a good restaurant suggestion via Twitter, I can drag that message to John's Twitter icon in my sidebar and he'll receive a link to view Sally's message. If a particularly interesting picture comes across my Flickr feed, I can drag it over to a contact on Facebook, and he'll receive a notification to view the image."
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Flock Delivers On Promises Post 1.0

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  • Ugh (Score:5, Funny)

    by AdamTrace (255409) on Friday April 11, 2008 @01:41PM (#23039306)
    " For example, if Sally makes a good restaurant suggestion via Twitter, I can drag that message to John's Twitter icon in my sidebar and he'll receive a link to view Sally's message. If a particularly interesting picture comes across my Flickr feed, I can drag it over to a contact on Facebook, and he'll receive a notification to view the image"

    I just threw up a little in my mouth...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by UberHoser (868520)
      I am with ya bro.

      I play WOW, and we have a mage that likes to browse myspace during raids...or even better, click on the wrong chat window..

      So we see some raid messages that were not meant for the raid.

      OMG !

      Personally, I think that too much web social interaction is a bad thing. People are forgetting how to interact face to face.
      • Re:Ugh (Score:5, Funny)

        by morgan_greywolf (835522) * on Friday April 11, 2008 @01:58PM (#23039544) Homepage Journal

        Personally, I think that too much web social interaction is a bad thing. People are forgetting how to interact face to face.


        Face-to-face? Is that like when you put your Myspace pic on a page next to someone else's?
      • Re:Ugh (Score:4, Funny)

        by misleb (129952) on Friday April 11, 2008 @02:47PM (#23040156)

        play WOW, and we have a mage that likes to browse myspace during raids ...

        People are forgetting how to interact face to face.


        Irony?
      • Re:Ugh (Score:5, Funny)

        by eln (21727) on Friday April 11, 2008 @02:58PM (#23040306) Homepage

        Personally, I think that too much web social interaction is a bad thing. People are forgetting how to interact face to face.
        Whatever, dude. I met this chick on myspace a couple months back, and ever since then she's been sending me all these great jokes and virus warnings and cool stuff like that. Just the other day, I noticed she had put me as one of her top 8 friends. I'm pretty sure that means we're going steady. If everything keeps going like this, I might even link to her blog on my blog. After that, we're practically married anyway, so it's only a matter of time before she agrees to cyber with me.

      • by Omestes (471991)
        Personally, I think that too much web social interaction is a bad thing. People are forgetting how to interact face to face.

        I don't know about this. I think you are generally correct, but I don't know if social networking actually makes this better or worse. I would generally disagree that we are worse communicating in person now, or if we just lost all the formalities and rituals that used to be involved with civil conversation, and to a large part some of the nice taboos.

        I don't think the interpersonal
  • Vrapid: dump stuff on the tubes at the speed of light!
  • I like Flock, largely because of Flickr integration and the Interestingness media bar, that's pretty addictive.

    The main thing that keeps me from using Flock or Firefox full-time is the in-page search. Safari just blows everything away on that, and I don't think it would be terribly hard to add to FF/Flock. Add a total match count, and highlight all by default, and I'm there.

    Flock has come quite a way in the last year though, I'll have to give them that, it's not quite as "slap you in the face with e
  • by rwven (663186)
    While I have no interest in the named services, it's not hard to see that all that is a pretty slick achievement. I like. :)
  • by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Friday April 11, 2008 @01:54PM (#23039488)
    ... that an open source project released something with a non-zero major release (yeah, Enlightement, I'm talking about you!).

    Look, I suppose this is good news for Linux users and all; but in other OSes (*cough" OS X *cough*) most everything is draggable by default. If someone, during a chat, sends me a link to a great restaurant - I can drag it over to another person with whom I'm chatting. I can drag images off web pages onto my desktop, into my email, or into a chat window. So is drag-and-drop really the "killer feature" of Flock, or is there something more substantial?

    I dunno, I've never been happy with applications that try to do everything (e.g. Nautilus, Konqueror, Internet Explorer), rather than doing one thing really well; so maybe it's just my biases coming through.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by edmicman (830206)
      Cross-application drag and drop works even? My experience is in Windows, but I'm pretty sure I still can't drag an image from a webpage into a new Gmail email and have it actually embed the image into the email. I don't know if it converts to a link to the image or what. In my experience dragging and dropping media into other apps usually only works well for desktop apps. Dragging media into chat might work....I can't say I've tried it in a long time in Pidgin, but I want to say it would automatically u
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by mmkkbb (816035)
        It's worked in Mac OS for a pretty long time.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by cromar (1103585)
          A really long time. Mac has always been ahead of the game with drag and drop, it really got rolling with system 7.5 [wikipedia.org] (1994 - damn, ~15 years ago now). Around that time you could start dragging almost anything anywhere and have it do something (possibly) useful. The nice thing about mac clipboard data is that it is abstracted a lot so you basically have a cluster of data/metadata such as URL, image, text, etc. Controls receive the drop event and can deal with the clipboard data in an abstract way (like cre
      • by blhack (921171)
        It works pretty well for me on linux.
        The only reason that I ever got flock is because photobucket doesn't offer their own upload client for linux, and their web based one wouldn't work.
        If you're trying to upload 1000 pictures to photobucket via their standard upload interface then you fail.
        Get flock.
      • by Z34107 (925136)

        On Windows machines, dragging something to an application is trivial. Dragging something from a program is problematic.

        Windows works by passing messages around. Every program has a message queue, and every program has a loop..forever that checks that queue for a message and does something with it (until WM_QUIT or whatever it is comes around.) When you create your window, you just have to mark that you want to receive drag and drop messages.

        So, when a user drops something onto your program, Windows s

    • The behavior you describe works fine in pidgin as well. detaching and reattaching tabs is also that easy.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Jurily (900488)
      Konqueror doesn't try to do everything, it just embeds the appropriate KPart. And those do one thing really well.
    • by Zadaz (950521)
      Is all it does is send notifications? What the hell is the point of getting a message:

      Jose sent you a link from Sally. Click here to view it

      when the message is

      Sushi Zone, 7:00!

      Why not just send the message (or the image or whatever)?

      If the point is to streamline social networking they soundly missed the point and doubled the traffic.

      Disclaimer: I pretty much despise social networking and it's ilk for taking all of the substance out of interpersonal communication. But they do present interesting interf

  • Flock. Like a flock of sheeple. I don't want to be a sheep headed for the slaughter. I want the be the Shepard telling the flock where to go, and selectively sheering and slaughtering sheep at my convenience.
    • Birds of a feather flock together.
    • by cromar (1103585)
      You must be a lot of fun at parties.
    • by misleb (129952)
      How can you not like the name? The program is called "Flock" and you tell it where to go (which websites). That makes *you* the shepherd. Isn't that exactly what you want?
      • It still seems like its trying to control me, rather than the other way around. Its the clippy effect. Sure he was there to *help* me write a letter, but he tried taking too much control. And as a result certain actions were performed that now prevent me from visiting Washington state.
        • by misleb (129952)
          What are you talking about? What does Washington state have to do with anything?

          In what way is Flock trying to control you? If you don't need to integrate with all those online services, DON'T USE IT. Jesus. It is like buying a 4-door sedan and then complaining that it is trying to control your driving habits because it was only designed to be driven on paved streets. If you want to go off-road, buy a different frieking car!

  • new slang? (Score:5, Funny)

    by SoupGuru (723634) on Friday April 11, 2008 @02:11PM (#23039732)
    Hey baby, mind if I Flock you?
    I got Flocked by like 20 people last night.
  • by apachetoolbox (456499) on Friday April 11, 2008 @02:43PM (#23040104) Homepage
    Flock's own extension library has dozens of plugins to choose from, and most resemble standard Firefox plugin fare. Again, I tried about 10, and they worked just fine. The only one that really raised my ire was Me.dium's privacy policy, the company watches too -- and collects, saves, and aggregates your data). I willingly installed the plugin so my beef isn't with its purpose, just with its method. When I installed the plugin, it also installed itself on my Firefox browser as well -- without asking -- and defaulted to on. Privacy lovers, this is not the extension for you.

    I'd say that's pretty damn rude of them.

    -Copyright Reform [copyrightreform.us]
  • "With Flock 1.1, real life friends are now obsolete!"
  • I think a link to the actual Flock website would have been appropiate in the summary: http://flock.com/ [flock.com] This is not my kind of toy, but it will be interesting so see if this will take of in the mainstream.
  • I used flock for about 2 weeks. It is a nice concept but the browser has serious issues with remembering the pages and sites that you 'allow". EVERY SINGLE TIME I visited Facebook I had to tell the stupid browser to remember the password. Someone needs to fix that. Until then, i consider it worthless.
  • And I'm currently using it now. I have complaints about it, just like everyone else here.

    First and foremost, is the fact that it is a very resource hungry application. Just when Firefox (which is what it's supposedly based on) is getting its footprint down to minimal amounts, Flock starts hitting the streets and uses up as much of my system as anything else I run.

    Second, the sidebar seems clumsy to me. I don't know, maybe if I were to use it for 2 weeks or so, I would get over this, but it just doe
  • Aww, I actually like Flock and recently started using it as my primary browser, and it makes me a little sad to see so many negative comments. I don't care that it makes me sound idiotic and anti-social, I like being able to access my facebook friends, email, photos, and feeds with very few clicks and pretty seamless integration. I mean, I'm not a techy/computer person so maybe I'm screwing a lot of stuff up...but it seems okay to me. *shrug*
    • by Snowmit (704081)
      Hey, don't worry, ever since jocks taught us that computers were for social outcasts and our parents kept telling us to "get outside and get some sun", everyone's just sort of internalized the message. Years after computers and the Internet became near ubiquitous in developed countries, nerds still cling to the fantasy that it's still just for us weirdos and we try to keep that true by making nervous jokes about how all these things are for geeks and outcasts.

      There may be groups of people who are spending l
  • I ran version 1 for a while. It wasn't a bad browser, really. It rendered pages well and, unlike the pre-release versions, most Firefox extensions worked, so you could actually get some useful features in it (remapping keystrokes, etc).

    The real problem was that most of the features are pretty much worthless: twitter? facebook? myspace? flickr streams?

    I just don't use that crap. I blog. That's it. And you pay a price in performance for all those extra features--it just doesn't run very fast. It's not unb

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