Windows 7 Won't Have Compact "MinWin" Kernel 580
An anonymous reader points us to an interview Microsoft's Windows 7 development chief, Steven Sinofsky, did with CNet. He reveals that Windows 7 will be a further evolution of Vista, and will lose the rumored MinWin kernel. "We're very clear that drivers and software that work on Windows Vista are going to work really well on Windows 7; in fact, they'll work the same. We're going to not introduce additional compatibilities, particularly in the driver model. Windows Vista was about improving those things. We are going to build on the success and the strength of the Windows Server 2008 kernel, and that has all of this work that you've been talking about. The key there is that the kernel in Windows Server 08 is an evolution of the kernel in Windows Vista, and then Windows 7 will be a further evolution of that kernel as well."
building off vista (Score:2, Funny)
doesn't sound promising.. (Score:5, Funny)
What, all five of them?
Contradiction error (Score:5, Funny)
Bzzt! Logical inconsistency detected! Abort/retry/fail?
Vista to WIN 7 (Score:2, Funny)
Translation: (Score:4, Funny)
Windows 7 will be incompatible with just about every third party application. Any compatibility with other Microsoft will be purely incidental.
"We are going to build on the success and the strength of the Windows Server 2008 kernel"
We're making it an even larger resource hog. Idling, Windows 7 will likely occupy 2 or more cores, and 4GB of ram.
"The key there is that the kernel in Windows Server 08 is an evolution of the kernel in Windows Vista, and then Windows 7 will be a further evolution of that kernel as well."
We're going to try our best to make Windows 7 so convoluted that no one can possibly discover the vast security holes.
Hope this is a bit easier to read.
Re:3, 2, 1.... (Score:5, Funny)
(I'm sorry)
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
For Vista, they promised loads of stuff, then stripped most of them out, presumably for a later version.
Thw MinWin kernel has been touted as non-production from the start IIRC, so that at least comes as no surprise at all.
I do wonder what all Windows 7 will not have; I would rather make a list of that.
For instance: WinFS, MinWin, capability to operate with less than half a terabyte of RAM, users... add to the list as needed; maybe after we define what Windows will not have, we can guess at what it will have.
Sadly, I only have bloat on that list so far...
Re:So the difference is... (Score:5, Funny)
It'll be simple for the marketing drones:
Do you remember the last time you had a steak? A really big, thick juicy steak. Yeah, that was great, wasn't it. That was XP.
And then you remember how it clogged up your colon, and you couldn't do anything for a day or two? That was Vista
And then you remember how it all finally came out, when you spent a half-hour on the can, insides being stretched to Hello.jpg proportions, tears laced with internal-bleeding running down your face, screaming and punching holes in the bathroom drywall, until finally at last everything was right again, and wave of adrenalin-induced euphoria washed over you once the pain was gone, finally gone? That was Vista SP1
Don't you want to experience that wonderful feeling of eventually bliss all over again? Windows 7, coming soon to a colon, urr, computer near you*.
(c)Windows(tm) Marketing(tm) Team(tm) 2008)(tm)
*Steak not included
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
But your comment is exactly what I was thinking. We've seen it before, the touting of features on the next-best thing from Redmond, and we were much amused. They were constantly dropping features off the list, up to the point where there really were no technological advancements left in Vista.
They really appear to be doing the same: "The Windows 7 marketing speak will be a further evolution of our experiences with marketing Vista".
(and to the mods: parent should be modded insightful, not funny)
Re:..and will lose the rumored MinWin kernel. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:3, 2, 1.... (Score:1, Funny)
this is fantastic news! (Score:4, Funny)
as a linux user, (i befriended the penguin after one day of vista) watching MS drop the ball a second time is good news.
i can feel it.....
2010 will be the year of linux on the desktop.
(at least for some people it will be, just like how 2007 was the year of linux on MY desktop)
Re:Guarranteed To Suck (Score:2, Funny)
Would it be facetious to suggest conducting an experiment? Say, by destroying their whole command structure, top-down... starting with George W.
We can then take notes of their behaviour.
Re:Guarranteed To Suck (Score:5, Funny)
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
The Windows database filesystem is something MS has been developing, announcing, and then killing off since the early 90s. It's sort of the Redmond equivalent of a phoenix, or maybe a Terminator.
At this point, I think they sort of *have* to announce it as a feature of every upcoming major version of Windows, only to cut it before the release of the OS. It's a tradition with almost 20 years behind it!
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:3, Funny)
Re:4. Profit! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
These Linux/Mac zealots always have something to complain about. Microsoft stripped that stuff out of Vista to give the users a fast and snappy system everybody could enjoy on any PC. If they kept all those features Vista would have been a real slug instead of the lightning fast OS it is now.
[/sarcasm]
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
But look at all the DRM technology they built into every layer of the APIs!
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
You say that like its a problem.
I prefer to consider Windows Vista to be like the overclocked Voodoo quadcore with twin nVidia 8800s I run it on: reassuringly exclusive.
Re:Compatibility will be Perfect! (Score:5, Funny)
(someone mod me up please)
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:4, Funny)
The Same? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Guarranteed To Suck (Score:4, Funny)
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:2, Funny)
(he says expecting a punch line to follow)
i'd understand if it was a colonel.
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
I don't know about WinFS being a phoenix or terminator. Those would be effective. I've always pictured each new Windows project as the Black Knight:
"Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no features left.""Yes I have."
"Look!"
"It's just a flesh wound."
Re:hmmmmm Vista... powershell ... winfs..... etc (Score:5, Funny)
Colonel Sanders?