Firefox Download Day To Start At 1 p.m. EST 1080
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from the there's-no-pleasing-some-people dept.
boustrophedon writes "Starting at midnight in their local timezones, downloaders have been asking when Firefox 3 will be ready for Firefox Download Day, June 17, 2008. Mary announced on the Spread Firefox Forum that downloads will commence at 10 AM PST." That means 1 p.m. East Coast time, and, in Justin Mason's view, some pretty annoying times of day for many parts of the world.
Reader CorinneI supplies a link to PC Magazine's (very positive) overview of the new version's features, which praises the "speedy performance, thrifty memory usage, and, in particular, the address bar that now predicts where you want to go when you start typing (what Mozilla insiders refer to as the Awesome Bar)." FF3, even in Beta and RC form, and even with the extension incompatibilities I've run into, has quickly replaced FF2 as my preferred browser — for me, the improved drop-down autocomplete behavior alone is enough to justify the switch.
Download (Score:5, Informative)
And unofficially... (Score:2, Informative)
I hate the awesome bar (Score:5, Informative)
Re:And unofficially... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:ubuntu linux? (Score:5, Informative)
sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
Ubuntu Hardy has it as the default Firefox browser.
Firefox Download Day (Score:5, Informative)
for most software downloads in a 24-hour period. Check it here:
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/worldrecord/ [spreadfirefox.com]
Everybody is asked to participate by downloading one single copy of
Firefox 3.0 today, June 17th!
ONLY FULL DOWNLOADS ARE CONSIDERED!
So, go to the Firefox site and get one FULL COPY!
http://www.getfirefox.com/ [getfirefox.com]
I don't think they're going to meet their goal (Score:5, Informative)
The connection was reset
The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
And this was with FF 2.0.0.14, so they can't blame my client.
Re:And unofficially... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:5, Informative)
Seems like the awesome bar is something that people either love or hate. Personally, I don't like it. I prefer my URL bar to do straight autocompletion, rather than search through my history and bookmarks for matches. I use the URL bar to type in URLs, and while the awesome bar adds some nifty functionality it breaks that basic feature.
Re:Download (Score:3, Informative)
It's, what, an hour and a quarter to go? Don't download the bloody thing yet! Wait until it counts! If you haven't already got the beta you can wait another seventy-five minutes, right?
Re:And unofficially... (Score:4, Informative)
Now, everyone on slashdot will have downloaded it before the official 24 hour download period even starts.
Well done.
Re:Download (Score:2, Informative)
Already posted at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/en-US/Firefox Setup 3.0.exe [mozilla.org]
Other builds at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/ [mozilla.org] if you don't happen to be one of them god-fearin' red-blooded win32-runnin' USAians
Re:Download (Score:5, Informative)
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US [mozilla.org]
You select your version with the GET variables. So, for other OS's:
- Linux: change os=win to os=linux
- Mac: change os=win to os=osx
For other languages, you can substitute the language variable such as en-GB for British English, de for German and fr for French. Not all of them are up right now, but they will be soon.Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:4, Informative)
Can anyone suggest how you might go about tweaking the SQL it passes to SQL Lite to only search URLs (not necessarily only typed ones, but not page titles) and without the leading wildcard?
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:5, Informative)
Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results.
Oldbar, while nice, only changes appearance, not functionality.
Im with you guys, though. I despise the awesome bar, and dont understand why there isnt an easier/obvious way to get the old, URL based behavior. A URL bar that works based on URLs?! Blasphemy!
base SVG support rising (Score:1, Informative)
Re:My findings... (Score:3, Informative)
No?
I didn't think so. That's why the memory footprint is being made a big deal of...
Did you forget to enable High Memory support in your kernel?
Processor type and features --->
High Memory Support (on) --->
(X) 4GB
Re:And unofficially... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I'll pick it up (Score:5, Informative)
HTH,
Re:Download DAY, Justin (Score:5, Informative)
Which to SOME people is the 18th of June, yes there is a world out side of the US shock/horror.
If you are going to have a world wide "DAY" then you should either start at 00:00 UTC OR specify the start time in UTC OR Have a count down time so people can work out when it starts.
The main agro from all this is that:
a) They said the 17th but never specifed the Time zone
b) The Never specified a time (so people logically thought midnight)
c) They never specified a Timezone full stop.
TBPFH I am rather annoyed, As I assumed the start would be at 00:00 UTC and was looking forward to the massive rush to download it being over and me being able to download it @ 0930 in work.
Instead after much fafing about I finally discover ON THE FORUMS the time is 1000 PST, IT WASN'T EVEN NOTED ON THE FRONT PAGE!
Don't get me wrong I love FF but after this I wouldn't trust mozilla to organize a piss up in a brewery!
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:5, Informative)
If you set the value of this to "2", you will get what you're looking for. Sort of... This will cause Firefox's "awesome" bar to match "LIKE 'foo%'". However, it will still look at page titles, not strictly URL. Still, this is the closest Ive been able to come to replicating old behavior.
Re:Download DAY, Justin (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:3, Informative)
I will disable that piece of crap as soon as I get my hands on it.
Re:My findings... (Score:2, Informative)
I speced out a (at the time) pretty nice MB a few years back. It uses RIMMs, though (I know, I know, Evil RamBus; it was the fastest thing at the time). I got 1G RAM for it. Boy was I pissed off when I built my kernel and finished installing enough of the OS to boot on its own only to find it wasn't using all the RAM. I hit several dozen sites trying to figure out if there was something about RIMMs and a 2.4.* kernel that I had to do special. Finally one day (not too many after install) I was bitching about it on a now defunct IRC channel (irc.drirc.net #pranknet) and one of the guys mentioned that to me. I couldn't believe I had been so dense...
All was well after I enabled that...
Re:Time Zones (Score:4, Informative)
"Spring forward. Fall back"
I agree that for a world wide product such as Firefox, UTC would have been the proper time frame to use.
Re:And unofficially... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Time Zones (Score:3, Informative)
Pedantic alert. There is no such thing as 12 PM (or AM for that matter).
Re:I will not.... (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, that's a lie - I'll definitely install it and try it out, though unless it's particularly awesome I doubt I'll be using it much.
EDIT: fanboy tirade about unjest treatment of Opera on slashdot and why you should try Opera follows. I could delete the following section, but I'll leave it up to the moderators to mod me fanboy or troll.
Is the "awesome bar" really as awesome as Opera's full history search from the title bar that lets you search for any phrase in any page in the cache... for instance, I could find slashdot again by typing "anonymous coward" if I forgot the url or title, or maybe just something from the post I was reading like "firefox download".
Also, though Opera still lacks extensions, it does seem to have caught up with regard to add blocking, and it's had really easy options to disable sound, plugins (like flash), java or javascript, identify as other browsers, change encoding, full zoom on all page elements, etc. for ages.
Even if you think the fact Opera being closed source is shit, it's pretty impressive that it's so packed with features whilst still being small and fast. Firefox 2 always felt a bit clunky to me, though I've heard 3 is a lot better, so that's something I'm looking forward to testing.
I'm only posting this because I'm a bit annoyed that the post about the release of Opera 9.5, which is a pretty major Opera release got attached to a fucking post announcing the release of Firefox 3 this Tuesday after there have already been tons of posts about betas and mozilla marketting schemes. I know not as many people use Opera as use FF, but it is a nice piece of free software which easily competes with FF on many levels and should be of interest to many
Re:And unofficially... (Score:4, Informative)
and, as many other posters have pointed out, all should have used demarcations of time that are not mostly US specific.
No Google Browser Sync (Score:3, Informative)
Correction to the GPs post (Score:5, Informative)
As of FireFox 3.0b3 browser.urlbar.richResults no longer works [google.com]. The ability to chose your own search results style was removed by the Mozilla developers as part of bug #407836 [mozilla.org]. They're illogical viewpoint is explained in bug #403159 [mozilla.org].
And, for the record, Oldbar does not fix the problem. It does not disable the searching style introduced by FF 3.0. It only makes the results look a little more like 2.0.
According to this [zacgarrett.com] article browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped no longer works either. The value of browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped is now ignored.
It's not the GP's fault either. Dozens of articles have been published in the past few months that have old, outdated information. Even Redhat put it in their Knowledgebase [redhat.com] on 6/4. The sheer number of articles attempting to help people disable the "awesome bar" should make the developers realize that this is not a "feature" that everyone wants. I agree with the GP. I too HATE the awesome bar. It's a shame too because I would love to have the fixes for the memory leaks in FF 2.0 that don't exist but FF 3.0 addresses anyway.
Going, Gone (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:4, Informative)
It's also impossible at this point. just tried (1:08 PM EDT, so it's past the 10:00 AM Pacific start time, and the servers are totally hosed.
Re:When will their servers die? 1:02pm? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I will be happy if they have controls (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:5, Informative)
ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/ [mozilla.org]
They Noticed... (Score:3, Informative)
Direct FTP Link to mirror (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:3, Informative)
FOR CANADA ONLY (Score:1, Informative)
It is supposed to STILL COUNT for the record... give it a go in other places, but the site says for canada only.
Downloading from their FTP server won't count (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:2, Informative)
Dropped the ball, they did.
Re:Download (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I'm going to miss (Score:2, Informative)
You mean like Foxmarks [foxmarks.com]?
Re:Download (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ [mozilla.com]
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html [mozilla.com]
still showing Firefox 2?
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html [mozilla.com]
Still shows 3.0rc3
Am I missing something?
Firefox 3 Coming Soon! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Firefox 3 Coming Soon! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Correction to the GPs post (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Download (Score:1, Informative)
Wrong d/l link for FF 3.0 on Mozilla! (Score:3, Informative)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1466/wrongfirefoxmm4.png [imageshack.us]
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:2, Informative)
I've been using it for months now, and it hasn't adapted to what I want. Anyway, I don't want to have to train software by painstaking repetition, and with uncertain prospects of success, like it's a puppy that needs to be housebroken. I want to be able to configure it to operate the way I want. Software that tries is guess what you want is a bad idea. Users don't want software that behaves unpredicatably, they want software that behaves predictably.
Re:Download (Score:5, Informative)
1) Make sure the server offering actual file is light httpd (Cocoatech does it)
2) Use truly huge thing like Amazon S3 which can stand whatever you can imagine
Funny, I wonder what does Amaazon S3 PR guys do with all the wages they get? Can you imagine the missed PR/Image opportunity? Same goes for cachefly etc. like dedicated services. Lets not forget Akamai too!
Re:I hope they have an MSI version for windows (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Official count? (Score:1, Informative)
http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/ [mozilla.com]
Re:I hate the awesome bar (Score:3, Informative)
The problem is that it already had this feature, implemented in a way that I, and many other people, liked. Now they've reimplemented it in a way that we hate. For instance, I used to be in the habit of typing "en", and having it complete that to "en.wikipedia.org", so I could go to wikipedia with just a few keystrokes. Now that no longer works, because it pops up a dozen possibilities, such as clusty.com because its title is "clusty, the clustering search engine."