Web Browser Wars Go Mobile 132
alphadogg writes "A new generation of mobile Web browsers is finally making the Web a reality on handheld devices.
The latest example is last week's beta launch of Opera Mobile 9.5, a native Web browser for high-end smartphones. It's an evolutionary release for the Norwegian software company, but it comes just days after Apple's iPhone 3G, with its highly capable Safari browser, went on sale. Other brand-new entrants, such as Mobile Firefox and Skyfire, are expected later this year, at least in beta form. But the evolving mobile browsers are only one part of the picture. Mobile browsing is affected by the client hardware, ranging from the processor to the kind of wireless network being used, all of which have improved markedly. It's also affected by the design of Web sites being targeted, and there's new attention being focused on optimizing these sites for mobile users."
Issues with Opera (Score:5, Informative)
I was tasked with getting Opera to run on Set Top Boxes not too long ago, and the problem with opera is that its not just install and go like on windows or linux. Granted, it was a custom set-top-box build on linux, once you get the demo binary from opera, it doesn't run and says "cannot open fb0 frame buffer device". Apparently their business trick is to charge you for implementing every driver. They sell a very expensive sdk (more like a ddk), but then you have to develop all of your drivers. We were using a pretty well know SoC (system on chip) from sigma designs, but still didn't have the display drivers and ir drivers. I would suggest going with Mozilla or something that you have the source, otherwise a vendor will tie you in to their solution, and not even give you header files with which to get the embedded browser to work with custom hardware.
Opera Mini works great... when it isn't crashing (Score:5, Informative)
Opera Mini is the only way to go for mobile devices. [...] Opera mini is a much more pleasant experience. Try it!
Ugh, I've had a terrible experience with this browser on my Treo 680 (and before that on my Treo 650). I've tried various versions of Opera Mini starting with version 3, then 4, now 4.1, and each time it's been a pain to try to figure out how to keep it from crashing. I was able to get 4.1 working a little better using these instructions [typepad.com], but even then Opera Mini 4.1 still frequently locks up the device, forcing me to have to remove the battery. With earlier versions of Opera Mini 4 I've even reset my Treo to factory defaults and reinstalled everything, and that didn't fix the problem.
Your mileage may vary, but Opera Mini has been extremely crash-prone and disappointing for me.
Re:Maybe (Score:3, Informative)
Opera mobile does exist for WM5. I use it. It is far better than the other browsers, but does have a few small missing features. IIRC, there is no find on page feature for example. For the free trial see http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/ [opera.com]
Firefox product name mix up (Score:5, Informative)
The writing in the description is poorly constructed.
And by the way, they are confusing
- Mobile Firefox [mobilefirefox.com] which is a 3rd party (not Mozilla-made) version of FireFox 1.5/2.0 repackaged in a way that make it executable from whatever computer you want, without installation, from a simple USB stick.
It's mobile as in "movable between desktops", not as in "small protable device".
(which is globally similar to Portable FireFox [framakey.org].)
and the Mozilla projects :
- MiniMo [mozilla.org] Mozilla's browser engine (Gecko) ported to portable devices running Linux or Windows CE
- Fennec [mozilla.org] - Mozilla's effort to create a FireFox for mobile device.
Given releases are announced very soon, I think, Fennec is the project the description was referring to.
IE Mobile goes nowhere.. (Score:2, Informative)
I own a HTC Wizard which unfortunately came with windows mobile.
Mobile IE sucks so much as entire windows mobile.
All the UI design is a failure, one has to constantly move the horizontal and vertical scrollbars to view the webpage.
If the screen wasn't small enough, Back/Stop buttons are extremely BIG which makes the viewport area even more small.
Also, Mobile IE is unable to properly handle mime types, it fails to save binary files other than .zip
And of course, like the desktop IE, Mobile IE is incapable of correctly rendering the "small" footprint html used on mobile webpages.
It doesn't support tabbing browsing not even multiple windows!!
I wonder what a piece of crap like this is doing on a PDA with GPRS/EDGE and WIFI
Re:why the hell is "no flash" a given (Score:3, Informative)
Why the hell am I still not watching zeropunctuation on the subway?
I just spent a few days at a cabin with my friends. Using my Nokia N73 we watched quite a few youtube videos(asshole mario is fun when you're drunk, even if the screen is smallish). Since there was no TV we also watched the latest news broadcast from the web with my phone. So Flash videos do work. All you need is an decent phone, though I suppose since you Americans are hailing the iPhone as the second coming of Jesus you lack such things..
Re:What am I missing here? (Score:3, Informative)
The fastest networks available in the US these days are the UMTS (3G successor to GSM) services, where you'll see speeds up to 1.4 Mbps, and CDMA2000-EVDO wireless services, with a max down of 3.1Mbps, max up of 1.8Mbps, More than fast enough for web browsing.
Re:Opera Mini (Score:3, Informative)
Safari on the iPhone lacks "open in new tab" and it also forces a reload when you switch back to a tab. So no loading a tab in the background and switching to it once it's loaded. Also, no loading at home on WiFi and reading on the road.