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Dutch Town Lays Air-Purifying Concrete 295

eldavojohn writes "In an effort to combat air pollution, a Dutch town has paved some of its streets with air-purifying concrete. It contains a titanium dioxide-based additive that utilizes sunlight to turn car exhaust into harmless nitrates. It was shown to do this in a lab and now the scientists are interested in just how much this will affect the air quality around the road. They will sample the air quality by a normal road and by this newly paved one."
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Dutch Town Lays Air-Purifying Concrete

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  • by dedazo ( 737510 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:15PM (#24498277) Journal

    All passive filters I know require replacement because they get clogged, or the active elements eventually decay. Beyond making jokes about swapping the church bricks five years from now, TFA was a bit light on the details. Does anyone know how does this works, from a chemical perspective?

  • Meh... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Thelasko ( 1196535 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:33PM (#24498665) Journal
    Chicago is putting in water purifying concrete. [iht.com]
  • by quanminoan ( 812306 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:35PM (#24498713)

    I did some research for school over in Hong Kong for a few months and worked with the Hong Kong Polytechnic University Civil Engineering Dep. They used titanium dioxide coatings on bricks and highway noise barriers - actually in use in Hong Kong. They also have attached titanium dioxide nanoparticles to textiles to make filtering clothing:

    http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cpa/polyu/hotnews/details_et.php?year=all&news_id=255 [polyu.edu.hk]

    http://www1.polyu.edu.hk/hotnews/details_e.php?year=all&news_id=964 [polyu.edu.hk]

    It's great to see it catching on...

  • Re:Nitrates? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hey! ( 33014 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:41PM (#24498829) Homepage Journal

    Anything is harmful in the wrong place and in the wrong concentrations. Nitrates are, for example harmful to fish in high concentrations.

    Most systems have processes that are limited by the supply of some resource. Ocean ecosystems are nitrogen limited, whereas fresh water systems tend to be phosphorous limited. Thus if the nitrates are washed off into fresh water, they'll cause relatively little immediate damage unless the concentrations are high enough to be toxic. However, if that nitrate is carried downstream to the ocean, the plume of nitrogen rich water entering the ocean can cause blooms of organisms that use up so much oxygen that fin fish suffocate. This happens where the Mississippi enters the gulf.

    So, how and where something like this is used makes a difference. If you imagine all the US cities along the Mississippi and its tributaries using it, and if there is a mechanism by which the nitrates make it into the rivers, then this could make the situation in the Gulf much worse. If you use it in a coastal city and only the runoff from that city affects the local ocean, the amount of nitrogen entering the ocean might or might not have any measurable effect.

  • air treatment (Score:3, Interesting)

    by FudRucker ( 866063 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:43PM (#24498847)
    why not get some crop dusters and fit them to release a fine powder of this air cleaning agent at high altitude above cities that have smog & air pollution problems?

    what will it do to ground water and lakes & rivers? maybe clean them too?
  • by gnuman99 ( 746007 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:50PM (#24498989)

    Nitrate is also known as a fertilizer.

    Maybe that will cause people to think twice before,

        1. laying down fertilizer on their lawn, and shipping cut grass to landfills - leaving grass where it is provides the new grass with its own fertilizer.

        2. writing that nitrates can be worse than NOx (NO, NO2 and others)

    NO3 is completely harmless compared to the more volatile cousins NOx that come out of tail pipes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOx [wikipedia.org]

  • Re:Human Problems? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MightyYar ( 622222 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @12:52PM (#24499035)

    Even if the nitrates DO wash into the local drinking water and there is a demonstrably bad effect, it still might be a good idea; the health effects of breathing smog might still be worse.

  • Re:Offset? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @01:02PM (#24499235)

    How, exactly, is removing the catalytic converter (which acts on the engine's exhaust just before it is expelled to the atmosphere) supposed to help improve engine efficiency?

    Do you realize what you just said is the equivalent of claiming that a new computer monitor will give you better CPU performance?

  • Re:Human Problems? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AshtangiMan ( 684031 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @01:13PM (#24499425)
    1. Pave road with this stuff.
    2. Drive diesel cars on roads.
    3. Nitrates -> algae blooms in marshes just off road sids.
    4. Harvest algae and press to make bio-diesel.
    5. Profit.
  • by Dex5791 ( 973984 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @01:15PM (#24499449)
    Put this titanium dioxide-based additive in the exhaust systems?
  • by avandesande ( 143899 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @01:27PM (#24499633) Journal

    These nitrogen oxides will eventually end up as nitrates anyway, the TIO catalysts just speed this up. Or would you rather that people and wildlife breath them into their lungs first?

    Stupid.

  • Re:Eutrophication (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Gat0r30y ( 957941 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @01:43PM (#24499913) Homepage Journal
    I thought we discussed this - Phosphorus [slashdot.org] is the limiting agent in algal blooms.
  • Re:Offset? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @02:23PM (#24500443) Homepage

    The Titanium is not consumed in this process (merely a catalyst) so it might very well be worth it in the long run..

    Assuming the catalyst isn't poisoned by reaction byproducts, or removed by weathering, or sealed under oil etc., or otherwise rendered inactive by environmental effects.

  • Re:Offset? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by today ( 27810 ) on Wednesday August 06, 2008 @06:34PM (#24503935) Homepage

    Just because you pass static emissions tests does not mean your car would pass a full-dyno emission test like they do when the car is under development. The bi-annual test usually only tests the car at a couple of load points, and they assume if it passes those, it is in working condition. You car should not pass a California inspection because they are supposed to check that the CAT actually exists (unless you've simply cored it out or welded a CAT shell around the exhaust pipe to fake it).

    My guess since you are tuned for performance is that you are emitting a lot more HC and CO than you would be if you had a CAT installed.

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