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In UK, Broadband Limits Confuse Nine In Ten Users 217

Mark Jackson writes "ISPreview reports that 86% of UK broadband users don't understand the usage limits on their service, and nearly one million have reached or exceeded their ISPs limit in the last year. This is important because 56% of major providers are prepared to disconnect those who 'abuse' the service. However, it also shows how damaging bad marketing can be, with 6.2M people believing they have an 'unlimited' service with no restrictions. The UK Advertising Standards Authority is also blamed for making the problem worse by allowing providers to describe their services as unlimited even if there is a usage cap, as long as it is detailed in the small print. However, consumers are none the wiser with over 10 million broadband customers never reading their usage agreements and a further 1.8M not knowing whether they have read it or not. Unsurprisingly 7.5M do not even know their download limit, which is understandable when so few providers clarify it."
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In UK, Broadband Limits Confuse Nine In Ten Users

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  • further evidence (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PunkOfLinux ( 870955 ) <mewshi@mewshi.com> on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:29AM (#25497505) Homepage

    that limited unlimited plans are a bad idea.

    Really, just throttle them based on how much theyve used in a given period. everyone wins. consumers keep their service, and providers can cut their bandwidth down a bit.

  • by Threni ( 635302 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:32AM (#25497543)

    is why are companies allowed to describe something as unlimited when it's limited. If that was changed, there'd be no problem. The ISPs always say `most users....` then I lose attention. If most user don't use 50 gigs, then limit it to 50 gigs.

  • Re:further evidence (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Wiarumas ( 919682 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:33AM (#25497565)
    Or you can do what PSU does and occasionally give them courtesy emails explaining the situation (50% bandwidth used, 75% warning, etc.) and if they do happen to go over, punish them with 56k speeds for a bit. That way you don't lose your customer, you protect your precious bandwidth, and maybe you'll prevent a few people from doing it again (or at least educate them on the matter).
  • Leave it as it is (Score:5, Interesting)

    by L4t3r4lu5 ( 1216702 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:34AM (#25497567)
    10% of the users using 90% of the bandwidth still leaves 10% for Grandpa to check his email and your sister to update her MySpaz.

    Why punish those who actually USE what they paid for? I've had the same contract since BlueYonder "real" unlimited connections, and my usage hasn't changed. All that's changed is as soon as ive watched a couple of iPlayer programs, my downstream drops from 250k to 100k. My dad, mum, and brother don't notice, so there's 75% who don't understand and aren't affected. Only we know, and only we use it.
  • It's funny how... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Xest ( 935314 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:36AM (#25497599)

    ...usage caps were sold as a legit tool for ISPs despite advertising unlimited because these caps affected only a tiny minority of heavy users.

    I'm not convinced 1million is a tiny minority. It's about time the ASA actually did some work for once and punished broadband providers for not advertising their caps more obviously. Last time it was brought up they said they didn't need to force them to change their practices for the above mentioned reason that caps were high enough to only effect a very small amount of users.

    Even Plus Net which prides itself in being open and which is probably one of the most open out the lot can be quite evil. When I renewed my contract with them for a year I don't recall seeing anywhere (except perhaps in the depths of the contract which I did read but must have overlooked) that by renewing my contract I'd accept a change in the definition of off-peak from midnight to 4pm down to midnight to 8am.

    Of course, it wasn't until I hit my 20gb on-peak cap within a couple of weeks that I looked into it and found I'd started being metred during the previously off-peak 8am to 4pm.

    Similarly when I stuck with their old package I noticed my speeds dropped below their advertised maximum caps at times also.

    If this is the kind of practice arguably the UK's most transparent ISP engages in it's no wonder users are confused about caps. The argument about the validity of ISPs imposing caps is one thing but the fact is that ISPs can't even be honest to their customers either and I'd argue this is the crux of the problem in terms of end user confusion on the issue.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 24, 2008 @10:40AM (#25497641)

    to see how much bandwidth you have used. That's probably the most retarded thing. How can they set limits without you being able to see them?!

    As others mentioned, I don't know why they don't just cap your speed once you hit a certain threshold of usage. What is the point of disconnecting and kicking off a paying customer? Bad business if you ask me.

    I can guess why they do all this though. They don't want you to be able to see the limits because they are afraid people would actually use their allocated bandwidth instead of being scared of some secret value they can't see. This is probably the same reason they don't have automatic speed limiters once you reach a certain usage because then there is no hidden line to cross. Again, they are afraid that people would actually use the bandwidth they paid for.

  • by Finallyjoined!!! ( 1158431 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @11:03AM (#25497917)
    Whenever you see an ad claiming "unlimited" from an ISP you know limits in the small print, i.e. BT, Talk talk, Virgin, Tiscali etc. Send in a complaint.

    http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/complaints_form/ [asa.org.uk]
  • Re:further evidence (Score:3, Interesting)

    by GauteL ( 29207 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @11:33AM (#25498371)

    "When I pointed out that contention would cause variable transfer speeds instead of a flat one, they tried to get me off the phone and told me to write to their head office. I totally hate that company. Avoid."

    Look, IANAL, but I would start documenting the bandwidth capping, and then cancel the subscription and any payments to them due to what I would consider to be breach of contract from their point of view.

    This sounds like wilful capping of the speed, which can hardly be covered by their standard contract legalese.

    Chances are they would not bother taking you to court over ending the contract early.

  • Entanet (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Mr_Silver ( 213637 ) on Friday October 24, 2008 @12:05PM (#25498943)

    When I moved to a new flat last year, I did my research and eventually signed up for one of the Entanet resellers. When I tell people I'm paying £20/month for 30GB peak (8am-10pm weekdays) and 300GB offpeak (all other times, including all weekend) they look at me as if I have a screw loose and invariably ask why I didn't got with Provider X who is half the price and "unlimited".

    The problem, I explain, is that every provider I've looked at that offered "unlimited" had a FUP and from a site on the web (which i've sadly lost) I found out that that FUP could be down to as low as 5GB per month.

    In the year I've had the broadband (living on my own), I've only managed to get at most 15GB peak and 70GB offpeak in a month. It's true I don't work from home, don't stream music or video during peak hours and download really big files offpeak - but I've not found it to severly impact my browsing abilities. Hell, I'll happily suck down a 500MB update in peak - simply because I have tonnes of it to go around.

    Thankfully Entanet offer a nice set of tools to monitor my usage, so if I start to get near their limits (due to changes in the way I use the web) then I'll re-evaluate the options again. It's not like I'm tied in, I only have a months notice period.

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