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How To Make Money With Free Software 187

fons writes "Dutch Python hacker/artist Stani took part in a contest organised by the Dutch Ministry Of Finance to design a 5 euro commemorative coin. And he won, using only free software: 'The whole design was done for 100% with free software. The biggest part consists of custom software in Python, of course within the SPE editor. For the visual power I used PIL and pyCairo. From time to time also Gimp, Inkscape and Phatch helped quite a bit. All the developing and processing was done on GNU/Linux machines which were running Ubuntu/Debian. I would have loved to release the coin under the GPL, which could maybe solve the financial crisis. However for obvious reasons I was not allowed to do that.'"
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  • by HonestButCurious ( 1306021 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @06:45PM (#25576745) Journal

    Did you RTFA (or more specifically LATFC)? This coin has algorithmic outputs both on the front (the Queen made out of architect names) and on the back (an outline of Holland made out of books). I can't see how anybody could create it using Photoshop or Illustrator. The coin designer probably spent more time coding than sketching (like the book Snow Crash).

    Also, it's beautiful. I want one, no, a few million of them.

  • Whatever. (Score:5, Informative)

    by sootman ( 158191 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @06:50PM (#25576793) Homepage Journal

    The more talent you have, the less important the tools are.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 30, 2008 @07:02PM (#25576935)

    Without fail, they come back and say, "hey, I can't do anything with this. It's not Adobe. It sucks." So I point out to them that their Adobe software skills make them think they're pretty good at design.

    I have few thoughts after reading your post:

    1) If they think knowing Photoshop makes them good designers, then it means you're a bad teacher. Have you not explained to them typography, use of whitespace, negative space, layout, color harmonies etc.? None of this can be perceived as exclusive to Adobe.

    2) I do use GIMP and Photoshop *together* every day, and I have to say, GIMP does pale as a Photoshop replacement for professionals. It's the fact. I could start listing specific reasons, but that's boring. However GIMP is still useful if you don't put artificial limitations on how and when it's used. Tools don't make the artist, but they certainly do help.

    3) You can draw Mona Lisa in MS Paint [youtube.com]. That doesn't mean that not using MS Paint I have "marketing-infused mental block". It just means I have lots of free time and will to show off.

  • by TheModelEskimo ( 968202 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @08:17PM (#25577671)

    only when you use GIMP will you become a "graphic designer, creative person, illustrator, web designer, etc".

    "You seem to be setting up a straw man. Can I help you with that?" -Clippy (because no, I never said what you suggest I did)

    Why don't you teach GIMP instead of Photoshop?

    Most of my students have no context in which to understand the difference between the two. But since you asked, I will be teaching GIMP soon, as the art faculty in my college have demonstrated an interest in helping students grasp the Open Source aesthetic. Also, you may have noticed that I *do* teach GIMP currently, as an optional item.

    Oh, that's right - nobody will pay you to teach it.

    I'm not sure where you heard that. The school has already shown interest in paying me more to develop a curriculum for more advanced students which would heavily involve Open Source software. We also like the idea of establishing a one-of-a-kind creative lab by spending more money on capable hardware installations than on software. You may have seen this happen at schools like MIT. But still, I come to /. to hear the old arguments against Open Source stuff, so...well played, my literal-nicked friend.

  • by femto ( 459605 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @08:35PM (#25577819) Homepage
    The same could be said of the designers of the A380 jumbo jet. They could have used a piece of paper and a 6H pencil but they they would have come up against the constraint that it is physically impossible to do the required calculations in a reasonable time. It's why people use automated tools. While not in the same league as an A380, the coin still embodies calculations which are involved enough that they could not be done manually. For example, the calculations involved in rendering the illustration using a variable width font on a curved path. Sure he could have licked his finger, held it up in the wind and guessed at a correct rendering, but he would not have achieved the same effect as he did with the tools he used.
  • Re:And?? (Score:2, Informative)

    by rohan972 ( 880586 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @09:05PM (#25578069)
    1) Its a joke. You know "How to make money with OSS ..."
    2) The oft stated "Linux is no good for graphic designers because it doesn't have photoshop" now has a response. Not that I see any photoshop users switching because of this, but serious professional graphics work has now been done on linux.
  • Re:That's Impressive (Score:3, Informative)

    by lawpoop ( 604919 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @09:20PM (#25578171) Homepage Journal

    I was thinking the same thing about his mastery of visual symbolism. However, in what sense are ancient greek and roman buildings dense with symbolism? Are you talking about the sculpture on them?

    I took a class on Sacred Architecture, and basically, the Greek buildings are loaded to the hilt with meanings. Well, it was all mathematical, though. You can thank the Greek philosophers for first originating the idea of the Matrix. The reality we see with the senses is a shadow of the real world, which is mathematics.

    For one, they liked to use the golden ratio wherever they could. Here's a page [milanovic.org] that has an image of the golden ratio in a Greek temple. Second, look closely at the columns. See who they taper on top? That was done on purpose, so that when you're up close, looking up at them, the appear to rise straight up, instead of bending slightly inwards over you, as Manhattan skyscrapers do. The Greeks understood perspective and corrected for it with an optical illusion.

    There are a lot of other things, which I've forgotten from the class, but it's utterly fascinating. If you have a chance to do a little reading, you'll be greatly rewarded! :)

  • Re:Fuck Python (Score:3, Informative)

    by I cant believe its n ( 1103137 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @09:53PM (#25578423) Journal

    Malbolge is a public domain esoteric programming language invented by Ben Olmstead in 1998, named after the eighth circle of hell in Dante's Inferno, the Malebolge.

  • by TheModelEskimo ( 968202 ) on Thursday October 30, 2008 @09:57PM (#25578457)

    is it appropriate to do it on the backs of your students?

    This is the same rhetoric that always gets brought up in these /. discussions. As if an instructor would just cart in Open Source software one day and tell students they are forbidden to use some in-demand commercial package. Yeah, that sounds like a love of freedom to me.~

    I can understand the blank stares.

    Does this type of presuppositional thinking usually help you communicate? It's failing here because you seem to be asking a question I've already answered.

    What would they expect from the class?

    My more advanced students want to know what I do at work, since I teach part-time as a hobby. They want to know how I can keep running my own business in a creative way, and in a dead-end, isolated town. They want to be high-tech so badly that they'll follow me around the school, asking for private lessons, portfolio reviews, or whatever. They've already responded well to the concept of Open Source, mainly because they see pros in advanced fields using it alongside proprietary stuff more and more. And they would *love* to be able to spend money on nice hardware like a Wacom tablet rather than paying for locked up software. Anyway, I seem to sympathize with my students much better than you would even attempt to, so there's no use explaining beyond that. The bottom line is, your straw man ran away; deal with it.

  • by Zhila the Great Z ( 852771 ) on Friday October 31, 2008 @12:24AM (#25579657)
    Not sure how serious you were, but I think I can counter.

    First, you say that C# is a closed and proprietary language. You also say there is no spec for the C# language. While Microsoft's C# compiler itself may be closed source and proprietary software, it is an open standard per ECMA. You also state that developers won't be porting the language to new systems, yet I can count at least two compilers (both open source) available for non Microsoft systems.

    You then ask if it can be used to create an operating system, if it can program set top boxes, or be used in embedded systems. Well, yes (Singularity), eventually (it has been noted that one use of Singularity would be set top boxes) and yes (.NET Compact Framework or Embedded Linux with Mono).

    You may state these solutions are inefficient or inadequate, and I won't argue against that. However, to say they don't exist at all is not true.
  • Re:That's Impressive (Score:4, Informative)

    by bmcage ( 785177 ) on Friday October 31, 2008 @05:19AM (#25580973)
    Dude, the guy wrote an entire python editor, SPE (Stani's Python Editor)! The special forte of it is that it integrates with Blender.

    His editor is really good, but some performance issue on my 64bit. I prefer it over Erik4 otherwise.

    I think you can savely assume that if he is not happy with something, he just changes the source code and recompiles.

  • by Reinout ( 4282 ) * <`reinout' `at' `vanrees.org'> on Friday October 31, 2008 @09:04AM (#25582069) Homepage

    Stani explained the way he made the coin at a Dutch python user group meeting in Amsterdam. Everyone attending was really enthousiastic about it. http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2008/09/12/python-calculated-coin [vanrees.org]

    Good to see that he's written an article himself with the full explanation and graphs! Nicely done.

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