Microsoft Working On Its Own App Store 195
CWmike writes "Microsoft is working on a software distribution scheme along the lines of Apple's iPhone App Store, CEO Steve Ballmer said yesterday at a developer's conference in Sydney, Australia. 'There's not much money being made, but the general concept of giving developers a way not only to get their code distributed, but to really get visibility for the code, is a good idea,' Ballmer said. Ballmer hinted that something similar would be coming soon from Microsoft. While he said Micrsoft was not ready to detail the works in progress, he said '... fear not, we're hard at work, and you'll see some of the benefits [of that] with some of the concepts, particularly Facebook's.'"
Little understanding of a new model (Score:4, Interesting)
The money being made is in smaller chunks but the volume could be quite high. This combined could quite profitable for small, independent developers. Also from Apple's standpoint they are not in it to make large amounts of profit for themselves from the app store. Like the music and video divisions, it will probably generate a small profit. The app store is a tool to sell more devices. MS unfortunately only sees that they can't make much money off it because their model relies on OEMs buying their OS software and their mobile software which means they will have to compete in some cases with 3rd party developers.
Live Maps? (Score:4, Interesting)
I think that's an example of something they did better.. They ripped Google off and put better, more detailed satellite photos in the "birds-eye view" on their mapping site. It's a little chunky to use but the photos are amazing. Now when I shop for a house I go to live maps and instantly get a view of it from all sides from about ~50ft away. It puts Google Earth to shame, and although street view is even closer and more detailed, it covers a lot more area than street view.
Sure, MS copies ideas, but it only really HELPS the consumer in the long run. Even if it's not always "better" than the competition, it gives us more choices. I, for one, am looking forward to the new app store on my HTC Kaiser.
If this works, (Score:2, Interesting)
linux package management (Score:4, Interesting)
Probably something like Linux package managers, only you have to pay for the privilege of a less functional version.
App store not making money? pfft (Score:5, Interesting)
They are making PLENTY of money off the app store, far more than they expected. Ballmer's comments about "there's not much money being made" is simply his way of discounting Apples success and predicting his own failure.
Thats not the problem. Its the benefit (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:No supprise here (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm pretty sure the mouse came from Xerox PARC.
No, Doug Englebart invented it at SRI.
-jcr
I met him once a couple years ago. Really old (he's passed now) but he had a pretty interesting story. The part that really gets me is he never made a penny from inventing the mouse, aside from his salary at the company. He should have been made rich though!
-Taylor
Re:No supprise here (Score:3, Interesting)
The way I see it is that someone somewhere innovates. PARC, Linus or whoever, it doesn't matter. It seems to be less and less likely with any big company.
Apple gets hold of the idea and makes something very neat and appealing with it. The only problem I ever have is that it is too expensive. I own an iPod but have never felt able to justify the cost of a 'Mac.
Microsoft takes the idea and makes something much cheaper. It looks cheap as well. It runs on my PC but is no more open than the Apple stuff.
Re:The MS hate on Slashdot is hilarious (Score:3, Interesting)
Get current (Score:3, Interesting)
And, on Windows it will probably actually WORK.
I know you're a whiny astroturfing AC troll, but I can't let this pass.
If Microsoft OS software had a feature that worked like GNU/linux's software repositories, that would be a huge benefit for the end user and a major selling point. Install any of many thousands of apps in every category for free just by clicking on it? Free apps so plentiful they require their own search engine? Automatic dependency resolution? Integrated updates for all apps in one system? Slam dunk. There's even a spot for it in their control panel: the forgotten "add programs" part of add/remove programs.
But they won't because they can't. Every commercial software vendor would port to GNU/Linux the very next week, and the game would be over for them before the Justice department even launched the antitrust investigation.
So sad for MS. So good for everybody else. That is the "that was easy" button.
Re:monkey see monkey do (Score:4, Interesting)
your point would be...
Originally Microsoft started out selling music store servers and DRM to Walmart, Yahoo, etc. rather than sell music themselves. Then they went thru a few changes in DRM schemes selling multiple types to multiple people. Then Plays for (not) Sure, then because they promised not to compete in the "one music file" market they created a new type ZUNE that works on Live. Only in the last iteration have they actually mattered compared to Apple. Ironically Live ties music to Zune and Xbox 360 even tighter than Apple ties to iPod and Apple TV.
They have had a "product store" tied to windows since at least ME.. and it was a pale attempt to sell you regular software stuff in a retail box and mail it, a few things might be downloadable now. All I remember is that it never had anything interesting and never updated... ever. Microsoft would have made a killing with online buying of small apps integrated into their website that automatically installed into windows in the "preferred" method, but they constantly try to hijack ISV sales so nobody would touch such a store for Windows because they'd block you out.. a la Defender, ForeFront..etc. A store might work for CE devices, but those are so varied and Microsoft allows carriers to lock out various features so the apps wouldn't be "WinMo" apps they'd have to be "AT&T WinMo" and "Verison WinMo" and "TMobile..." Apple's 5 year deal bought them the kind of control over their devices to make the system really shine. Microsoft would be violating anti-trust to even ask for such a thing.
Re:No supprise here (Score:1, Interesting)
He's dead? According to Wikipedia he's still alive.
Re:monkey see monkey do (Score:3, Interesting)
but he should shut down his unprofitable ego-trip ventures like the Zune and the Xbox
The Xbox division is profitable, and it's been a long time coming. Unlike other parts of Microsoft, the Xbox division truly has an innovative product that is continually being improved in creative ways that benefit the user. The same can't really be said for Windows...
The Zune is also a very impressive piece of technology. Having played with one (and speaking as a loyal Mac user) I have to say it rips the hell out of the iPod classic's UI.
You've listed the two products that MS should not shut down under any circumstances - they're the only mass market items that have demonstrated any sort of creativity or innovation in the last while.
For a change though, I'd like to see MS be first in the game with their OS features - Windows (and to a lesser extent Windows Mobile) has been "me too-ing" their competitors forever now.
Re:monkey see monkey do (Score:2, Interesting)