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IBM Bringing Powerline Broadband Back? 141

KindMind writes "IBM, in partnership with International Broadband Electric Communications, appears to be bringing back powerline broadband back from the dead. This time, the idea is to build out in rural areas not currently serviced by broadband, and isn't for competing with other broadband solutions. From the article: 'Their strategy is to sign up electric cooperatives that provide power to sparsely populated areas across the eastern United States. Rather than compete toe-to-toe with large, entrenched cable or DSL providers, IBEC is looking for customers that have been largely left out of the shift to high-speed Internet.'"
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IBM Bringing Powerline Broadband Back?

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  • Elusive market. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nog_lorp ( 896553 ) * on Wednesday November 12, 2008 @08:05PM (#25740923)

    This will also capture the market on all those people who live too far from any hub to get DSL and have free/stolen cable so can't get that!

  • by fprintf ( 82740 ) on Wednesday November 12, 2008 @08:24PM (#25741131) Journal

    Techdirt [techdirt.com] recently asked if we could finally declare BPL officially dead. I guess not!

    There was great concern in the radio control modeling community about potential interference from BPL. In fact, a significant amount of fields are underneath or near these powerlines in the "wasted" space where no one wants to build houses. I recall in 2004 or so there being significant email/forum traffic, particularly from those clubs with sites very close to powerlines or from RC Glider pilots that fly long distances from view, toward the horizon, where planes are susceptible to inteference. It was predicted that there was plenty of potential for concern.

    Apparently with the concept dying off, so did the concern from RC pilots. I found a post as recently as 2006 where there was found to be little cause for concern (gmarc.com [gmarc.com]) using a spread spectrum analyzer.

  • Re:Why others failed (Score:4, Interesting)

    by renegadesx ( 977007 ) on Wednesday November 12, 2008 @08:26PM (#25741155)
    IBM on board is indeed a big shot in the arm, however not as big a shot as say if Cisco threw its weight behind it. It would be nice to see the major network guys get into this, and not just Cisco but also NetGear, D-Link etc

    I would like to see that happen in Australia too. Telstra have had too much of a monopoly on infastructure for too long and they always leave out rural areas. Sure they have their new 3G network but they overcharge to the point people working in small towns (who dont make as much money as city folk) cant afford it.
  • Re:Hmm. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 12, 2008 @08:58PM (#25741445)

    I'm a ham too, but it looks like the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) is doing pretty well at keeping BPL off of ham frequencies. However, the ARRL is not standing up for those who want to listen to international short wave broadcasts. These are on frequencies that are allocated for this purpose by international treaties, and by allowing interference on these frequencies the FCC is effectively denying Americans the right to hear news and ideas from other countries.

  • by TonyToews ( 1221386 ) on Wednesday November 12, 2008 @10:10PM (#25741951)
    I'm truly puzzled as to how they think they can make any money given the infrastructure challenges. Pretty much everyone in rural Alberta has multiple wireless providers in range. And there's no interference to the amateur radio or emergency services radio systems as there is using BPL.
  • by iammani ( 1392285 ) on Thursday November 13, 2008 @12:54AM (#25743055)

    Why not use WiMax? It's higher bandwidth, requires less infrastructure overall to install (since you don't have to bypass transformers, etc.) and works for mobiles.

    Wimax has it own issues too. I am posting this on my Wimax connection in semi-urban Bangalore. While I have no issues with my connection as I live with-in 300m from the tower and the tower is "line-of-sight" from my antenna, I know a lot of people who are completely dissatisfied with it.

    I am not sure if it is because of the bad implementation by my ISP, or its the Wimax standard itself, but if the distance between the wimax tower and the subscriber exceeds 400 m, the connectivity becomes really bad.

    And presence of trees between the tower and our antenna greatly degrades the signal strength. (Microwaves are absorbed by water)

    And latency would be yet another issue.

  • Re:Why others failed (Score:1, Interesting)

    by WCguru42 ( 1268530 ) on Thursday November 13, 2008 @01:31AM (#25743255)
    I never said I didn't appreciate them, but when I'm paying $800,000 for house on a third of an acre and over $100 a month for my cable, internet and phone I don't want to hear someone complaining about having to pay $200 a month for similar services but can live on 30 times as much land at half the cost or less. We all make our decisions and there are pluses and minuses to all of them.
  • Re:Why others failed (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Adriax ( 746043 ) on Thursday November 13, 2008 @01:39AM (#25743313)

    When I lived in anaheim, just a mile and a half from disneyland, we were unable to get DSL. Apartments across the street were able to get it, but we weren't.

    People can say all they want about government screwing things up when the run them, but fed/state/local govs would do a hell of a lot better getting broadband to the masses.

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