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Networking The Internet

The Other Side of the Sprint Vs. Cogent Depeering 174

Swoolley writes "A month back this community discussed the Sprint vs. Cogent depeering. Now a story I wrote for Forbes.com tells the inside story of the fight, based on the lawsuits the two companies filed against each other in Virginia state court. For once, thanks to those suits, the public gets to see the details of a confidential peering agreement between two of the Internet's largest autonomous systems, as well as the circumstances leading up to the depeering. (Which company is in the right? Read the facts and decide for yourself.) While some people have argued that the depeering is reason for more government regulation, the Forbes story makes the case that details of the recent Cogent vs. Sprint fight argue for exactly the opposite: keeping the Internet backbones free of government meddling."
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The Other Side of the Sprint Vs. Cogent Depeering

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  • by Scott Lockwood ( 218839 ) * on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:34PM (#25966307) Homepage Journal

    But what if NO peering agreement existed to begin with? Sprint gave Cogent a YEAR - how much more notice do they need???

  • Strange story (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mapsjanhere ( 1130359 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:37PM (#25966371)
    When this story broke two months ago, the Sprint claim was that Cogent was having an unbalanced share of the traffic, and that was given as reason for depeering; mostly due to Cogent signing up large numbers at 10% of the price of Sprint and the other tier 1 ISPs. Makes you wonder if Forbes has an axe to grind there now.
  • by Lorens ( 597774 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:58PM (#25966743) Journal

    When *I* kill a peering, the traffic is rerouted through the Internet. Please don't tell me Cogent and Sprint don't use BGP! So why did traffic stop flowing?

  • by cornercuttin ( 1199799 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:59PM (#25966755) Homepage
    i am actually for some regulation. not really of any content, but to force the larger companies to be more open. fact is, the Internet/phone backbone was built using taxpayer money. if that is the case, then the taxpayers have a vested interest in competition and choosing their providers. minimally, all public institutions should be on a government owned/operated network.

    large companies like Sprint have paid off enough local FCC chairs that they are now deregulated, and are gladly unplugging all other ISPs that don't belong to the top 6 or 7. fees just to open the plug-in process are over $10,000 a month, and the bigger ISPs aren't even required to do anything. many local companies here have spent $10,000 for several months, having an open account with AT&T, and AT&T is allowed to sit on their hands because they can. you can pay $10,000 to AT&T and request that they hook you up at the local CO, and they will gladly take the money and say "Thanks for making a formal request", and that is it. end of story.

    and here in Oklahoma, AT&T is even double billing the local schools and libraries, but the FCC won't do anything about it. AT&T has a contract in Oklahoma to provide schools/libraries with connections for a certain base price, but because the schools/libraries get and pay their own bills, AT&T sends them bills with higher rates, knowing that the local mayoral staff won't have any clue on what they are supposed to pay.

    truth is, we should have an easy way to link into a system that was built with taxpayer money. and we need to actually be able to VOTE on what these big ISPs do, and not rely on the incredibly corrupt state FCC.
  • by Nick Ives ( 317 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @06:10PM (#25966973)

    Cogent argue that under the terms of the contract they passed. They kept the link open at their end because as far as they were concerned they had passed and Sprint was simply following its end of the bargain. They're arguing that they don't have to pay because if Sprint really didn't think they had passed, they could have severed the link at their end.

    The confusion is because both sides measured the performance in different ways. From Sprints' complaint:

    Cogent unreasonably claimed that the amount of interconnection traffic satisfied the
    utilization threshold requirement in the Trial Agreement because the port utilization peak figures
    for each of the ten ports (used to calculate billing) exceeded the average utilization criteria across
    all ports. Cogent ignored that Paragraph 5.E. required a sustained threshold average utilization
    across all ports for the entire period, and instead focused on snapshot figures based on the
    commercial pricing model of peak usage. As a result, Cogent argued that it was entitled to
    settlement-free peering with Sprint.

    I find it hard to believe that Cogent walked away from negotiations with the wrong idea about how the test was going to be measured. In any business negotiations both sides go to great pains to make sure everyone understands what's being agreed because otherwise it winds up in court like this. If the judge takes the view that Cogent was mislead (deliberate or not) then this becomes a big PITA for Sprint.

    So yea, a balls-up for both parties.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @06:42PM (#25967475)

    i am actually for some regulation. not really of any content, but to force the larger companies to be more open. fact is, the Internet/phone backbone was built using taxpayer money.

    Fact is, Sprint was not a Baby Bell born from the AT&T breakup. Sprint was formed out from a private Railroad communications network. None of your taxes was used to create the Sprint network. So your all for regulating other peoples property?

    http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Sprint-Corporation-Company-History.html [fundinguniverse.com]

  • by mpapet ( 761907 ) on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @07:06PM (#25967843) Homepage

    History has shown a country can and has spent their way out of recession(s). It was called the WPA. Learn a little history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration [wikipedia.org]

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