A First Look At Internet Explorer 8 RC1 271
bogaboga writes "TG Daily reports that Microsoft quietly released the first update to its IE8 beta 2 to its closest partners last week. This new version only scores a dismal 12/100 on the Acid 3 test, though the score improves significantly if one leaves the [browser] window open for at least a minute. It is marked as 'Release Candidate 1.'"
Some people STILL think they should use IE (Score:4, Informative)
Like this guy: http://www.highdefforum.com/768120-post19.html [highdefforum.com]
I don't know how someone can say "IE is not any more vulnerable" with a straight face. And it only scored 12/100 on compatibility tests? RUN from IE.
Re:Damn, did I really not know? (Score:5, Informative)
Now that is not to say that things still will not change for instance with the release of parts of Office 2007 some products would work in the RC phase on Windows 2000 but come release they stopped working. However at that phase you can usally start developing for the new product and it will work on the release with at most minor changes.
Re:Seriously? (Score:2, Informative)
There is a timed component to the ACID test. Some of the tests can take a while to run, so they have a limit set if you want to pass validation. Something IE can do apparently takes a while.
Re:Seriously? (Score:1, Informative)
what's worse is the "significant" improvement is a 21/100! still pityful
Even simple HTML can crash IE8 (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Good (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, ~50 % of websites tested in the past year by WhiteHat Security. It's the best metric we currently have for security flaws, as WhiteHat has many customers across quite a few industries, and they are all automatically retested over time. It has little to do with the browser targeted, and everything to do with the web frameworks used, the knowledge of the programmers, and the testing or lack thereof most websites get before deployment.
If you check xssed.com [xssed.com] you'll see that near 100% of websites have had XSS vulnerabilities in the past.
Re:Damn, did I really not know? (Score:1, Informative)
RC is equivilent to when a Linux distro does a freeze and just takes in compatibility and bug fixes before a release. Basically puts a stop to feature creep that might cause more delays.
Everything thats gonna be in is there, they are just testing and fixing now.
Re:Good (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Why It Takes an Extra Minute (Score:3, Informative)
i just go with the best of both worlds.. i own a volvo and an MG.. one is basicly maintence free for 120k miles.. the other required me to bring my tools to get it running so i could drive it home (well half way.. the other half i used a tow truck)
Re:Why It Takes an Extra Minute (Score:5, Informative)
You COULDN'T care less.
You could not care any less, because you absolutely do not care.
If you COULD care less, then you care some non-minimal amount.
Re:Not following standards costs us (Score:5, Informative)
Also, the acid tests are just one indicator of how well a browser does standards. To make it the defining standards test would not be completely fair. More info on that here [webstandards.org].
Still Beta (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:real FP (Score:1, Informative)
No, but that is...
Re:Even simple HTML can crash IE8 (Score:5, Informative)
This is a highly ignorant comment. A browser should never crash due to poorly written HTML, or due to anything. From the security angle, this is at least a DoS, but likely something more. Take a look at the IE7 0-day which is affecting millions of users. It is not a buffer overflow; it's a simple crash. However, because of JavaScript, one is able to manipulate ("spray") the heap enough to a point where even a simple crash can be used for code execution. ANY crash in a browser should be taken seriously.
Re:IE 10 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why It Takes an Extra Minute (Score:3, Informative)
Acid 3 is not a web-standards test because the "standards"(html 5, css 3) that it tests are not yet standard.
If Microsoft sits on IE and doesn't continue to upgrade it then IE 8 failing ACID 3 is a problem, but as to the best of my knowledge neither of the proposed specifications has been ratified yet and very little of it is actually going to make it into web pages in the next year or so it's not that big a deal.
Passing ACID 2 is a big deal, passing ACID 3 is only a big deal if IE 9 doesn't do it.
Opera and webkit pass ACID 3, but that's because they've focused specifically on doing so. Personally I think that Apple would have been better off focusing on making safari not crap than trying to get webkit to pass ACID 3, and Chrome isn't much better. Opera is a different situation, but it's got its own problems and is really focused on a different market.
I'm a web developer. I want IE to support the current web standards correctly, and IE 8 appears to do that from what I've seen. I want to see IE 9 follow on soon after and I'd like to see that pass ACID 3. I really don't give a rats if IE 8 does because I don't need it to right now.