The Presidential Portrait Goes Digital 295
alphadogg writes "Barack Obama's election to US president has already brought a string of firsts, and on Wednesday there came another. The official presidential portrait was shot on a digital camera for the first time. The picture was taken by the White House's new official photographer, Pete Souza, and issued by The Office of the President Elect through its Web site. It was taken on Tuesday evening at 5:38 p.m. using a Canon EOS 5D Mark II, according to the metadata embedded in the image file."
I seldom simply rant... (Score:4, Insightful)
...but this. Come on. I get this being newsworthy at Gizmodo etc. But Slashdot? Seriously... Cool, yes. Newsworthy? Not buying it. ;)
Re:do we really need an article here on /. (Score:3, Insightful)
every time obama wipes his arse?
Eh, I've been disillusioned with him ever since FISA but I'm still rooting for him in a way. I think most people are. I'll oppose him where I have to but our problems are too big to be rooting for the failure of our President. I think all the media coverage (/. included) has more to do with the hope that comes with any new administration. It'll take a few months for that to wear off and for us all to go back to being the cynical SOBs that we usually are ;)
Re:Sad (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm sure somebody said that during the advent of the DVD.
And then Blu-Ray came out.
This is news how? (Score:3, Insightful)
Um, I've been using digital pictures/cameras for near over a decade now. I think that it is more news that this hasn't already been done the last ten years rather than this one new guy is "the first" to use it.
What next? The first president to create his own daily you tube channel, blog, website/forum, on-line poll asking the public who he should pick for cabinet positions, or owning/using his own PDA/Cell phone?
Re:Something lost (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I seldom simply rant... (Score:5, Insightful)
Despite what its tagline says, slashdot long ago ceased to be any sort of news site. It is a discussion site. You've been here long enough that you should know that.
This story certainly isn't breaking news, it's trivia at best, but human beings (especially nerds) are very good at talking about and arguing over trivia. Throw in politics, and the never ending debate of the merits of film vs. digital, and I think there's plenty to discuss.
Re:Looking to dabble into a bit of photography mys (Score:5, Insightful)
Careful with that line of reasoning. A lot of what a camera with better manual modes does is simply make you aware of what is happening. As you try to make your photos look better, awareness of things like aperture and focal length and shutter speed will help. I'm aware that for many people, goal-directed learning works better -- but for some, especially geeky types, just paying attention and observing the differences between (eg) comparably exposed shots with different aperture settings will be very helpful. It's not (so much) that there are things the SLR can do that the P&S can't; it's that you'll be more aware of what the camera is doing.
So, if he wants to take better pictures, and is willing to put effort in, a more manual camera is a good investment early on. Having to fight with the camera is a big turnoff. Of course, the more expensive camera isn't better if you don't use what it gives you. It's *part* of how you learn about photography, and it certainly won't teach you by itself.
Does anyone make a (reasonably priced...) digital equivalent of the old standard learning camera -- fully manual, no gobs of features, just shutter, aperture, focus, and an exposure meter? Probably SLR, though not required, and ideally with a fixed length lens in the basic package. It seems these days the designers observe they have a microprocessor available and pack everything in, and it's hard to find that older elegant simplicity.
Re:I seldom simply rant... (Score:5, Insightful)
I agree. It's hard to think of it in such terms, but a lot has changed in technology since Bush took office. Obama is not the first to be shot with a digital camera because he's so tech savvy (as the summary implies), but rather because in the last eight years, digital film has almost entirely replaced film photography.
To put this into perspective, when Bush took office only early adopters had digital cameras. I got my first one (VGA resolution, even!) about the time Bush was sworn in. High resolution cameras capable of replacing film were simply impractical and too expensive for even professional photography. Fast forward eight years and a 'friggin cell phone can take multi-megapixel photos. The professional gear is just as affordable, if not more so, than the analog stuff and can produce resolutions that are more than comparable to a good film. The advantages of the new technology (e.g. zero film cost, easy manipulation, digital transfer, quick reproduction, etc.) are too numerous to fully name. In result, there are very few photographers who still use film-based cameras.
Thus my point is simply this: This is a whole lot of non-news. ;-)
There is no Office of the President Elect (Score:4, Insightful)
Why does everyone keep calling Obama's position as the Office of the President Elect? He doesn't have any power yet or anything, he's just the president elect... yeesh.
Re:do we really need an article here on /. (Score:5, Insightful)
do we really need an article here on /. every time obama wipes his arse?
The article... Or, at least the summary, since I didn't RTFA... Is more about the fact that the picture was taken with a digital camera for the first time ever.
This is slashdot. We get a story every time somebody releases a shiny new phone or installs linux on their toaster. We get stories about libraries digitizing their books. A digital picture being taken for the first time is at least as newsworthy as any of that.
We just had an "Ask Slashdot" about managing SD cards, with a few professional photographers chiming in about how they manage their huge collections... We've had dozens of stories over the years about preserving digital data over the years... Surely someone's curious how they're going to preserve this presidential portrait over the years, right? Regardless of whether you like Obama or not, he is the President Elect, he'll be going in the history books. We've got cave art and oil paintings that have withstood the test of time... How are they going to ensure that this photograph last at least as long as more traditional prints? How are they going to ensure that the digital file they open next year is the same one they just created? That it hasn't been altered or photoshopped or something?
Re:Obama wearing a flag pin... (Score:3, Insightful)
My side doing/not doing same thing = ignore
Re:Something lost (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm all in favor of digital, but the archival problem is far from trivial. Good quality prints on good paper can be expected to still be good quality prints in decades or even longer. Storing digital data for that long requires more than simply storing the print in a cool dark room with temperature and humidity controlled to reasonable levels. You have to be sure you can read the media, and also the file format. There are original photo prints well over 100 years old; books can be even older. Storing digital data that long in a usable form will take work.
Re:do we really need an article here on /. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:do we really need an article here on /. (Score:4, Insightful)
What next, report on Presidential toilet paper (Score:3, Insightful)
Please don't create a post when Obama is the first Pres to use a specially recycled toilet paper made from a process that doesn't create any global warming gases or pollute our rivers and streams. I'll have to look elsewhere for my tech news...
Re:Looking to dabble into a bit of photography mys (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I seldom simply rant... (Score:3, Insightful)
>Especially not at a street price of ~$2500-3000. No thanks.
The cost of the Canon system is in the lenses, and for many professional photographers, this camera is in the territory of "the only serious choice." But if you're freaking on the camera body price, you really don't want to know what the glass costs in this system.
Re:Looking to dabble into a bit of photography mys (Score:3, Insightful)
Those features aren't that important for the early learning. Learning about taking pictures involves getting an intuitive feel for what shutter speeds and apertures do, learning about framing, what makes a good background, what sort of lighting will look good in the final version, etc. These are not things that demand a top of the line image sensor or lens. They do, however, require you to be aware of what is going on inside your camera.
Eventually, yes, you'll want those things. And there's certainly some benefit to having them early on. But they aren't actually that important for the learning process.
indirect links (Score:5, Insightful)
Is anyone else sick of getting the links 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th hand?
Here [change.gov]'s the direct one for those interested.
Re:Looking to dabble into a bit of photography mys (Score:3, Insightful)
Depth of field manipulation, high-ISO quality, RAW, better exposure latitude, better build quality, more precise manual focus, easier to manipulate manual controls, higher quality optics, prime lenses, battery grips (vertical shooting), wide-angle/fish-eye lenses (below 28mm equiv. focal length), long telephoto lenses (above 300mm focal length), dual memory card support, higher frames per second count (10+ on newer models) and interchangeable lenses.
Maybe I've missed a few things.
Re:What next, report on Presidential toilet paper (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:5D Mark II... Sweet! (Score:2, Insightful)
(...)full high-quality 1080 24p video footage
Actually, it is 1080p, 24fps.
(...)it's a still camera that threatens to cannibalize Canon's entire prosumer video line
Yeah, every camera operator is extremely interested in a canon digital still camera which has a movie mode as an added bonus (to a excellent still camera). I've got news for you. Average camera operator isn't interested in canon digital still cameras, much less replacing his professional video camera with a still camera. And by average, I mean all of them.
(...)I work with video every day, and I have a hard time not using our 5D mkII over our $8000 Sony XDCAM on many shoots.
You are just trolling. I work as a photographer and I'm too considering using a video camera for some of my photo shoots.
Not.
Re:do we really need an article here on /. (Score:3, Insightful)
They talked up the George Bush firsts, too. They just have to do something when there is no real news.
"George W Bush is the first...":
"... little league player to become President."
"... who will not get lifelong secret service protection."
"... with an MBA."
"... sitting President to attend a foreign Olympics."
"... to have a criminal record."
"... born in Connecticut."
"... to have run a marathon."
"... to have been governor of Texas."
It goes on... that's just from the first page or two of Google. I seem to remember a lot of cable news talk about his religion back at the beginning of his term - though they had Florida to occupy most of their time.
Re:They aren't archival (Score:3, Insightful)
Tiff works too. As long as whatever format you use for archival purposes isn't taking any information away. For any quality camera and any picture shot as "RAW", a JPEG is taking a hell of a lot of information away. Ditto with PNG. TIFF works fine, as does PSD (though TIFF is more standard).
Great point! You just made a good case against my suggestion archiving using the RAW. Will something be around to decode whatever "RAW" means for your camera in 20 years?
Once I get a camera that has RAW, without your comment, I'd probably archive with RAW. Now I'll TIFF those bitches instead. Thanks for the tip!