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Microsoft May Be Targeting the Ubuntu Desktop 583

mjasay writes "Microsoft is advertising for a new director of open source strategy, but this one has a specific purpose: fight the Linux desktop. 'The Windows Competitive Strategy team is looking for a strong team member to lead Microsoft's global desktop competitive strategy as it relates to open source competitors.' For a variety of reasons, this move is almost certainly targeted at Ubuntu Linux's desktop success. With the Mac, not Linux, apparently eating into Microsoft's Windows market share, what is it about desktop Linux, and specifically Ubuntu, that has Microsoft spooked?" Reader christian.einfeldt notes Microsoft's acknowledgment of the FOSS threat to their business model within SEC filings, and suggests that this job posting could instead be about maintaining Internet Explorer's market share lead against Firefox.
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Microsoft May Be Targeting the Ubuntu Desktop

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  • Re:woo (Score:5, Informative)

    by tenco ( 773732 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @12:27PM (#26764343)

    After TWENTY FIVE years of effort.

    2009-1992 = 17

  • Re:woo (Score:2, Informative)

    by A12m0v ( 1315511 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @12:46PM (#26764515) Journal

    It is GNU/Linux you insensitive clod!

  • Re:woo (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 07, 2009 @01:01PM (#26764629)

    2009 is going to be the year of linux on the desktop! THIS time I mean it! Not like the other TWENTY FIVE times.

    In the last 6 months, 3 real persons (not geeks) around me migrated from Windows to Ubuntu. Before that, nobody that I am aware of.

    I am still happy with my Mac OS X, which is much more polished. But I am glad to have a fallback solution for the day when Apple begins to behave badly...

  • Re:woo (Score:3, Informative)

    by sqldr ( 838964 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @01:07PM (#26764667)

    2% might not be much, but the rise (and fall) of linux (like all things in statistics) will be a bell curve. 2% is the bit where the graph starts to look pointy.

    That said, first microsoft have to do something about the fact that half of their customer base can't tell the difference between windows 7 and kubuntu..

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm [zdnet.com.au]

  • by Gerzel ( 240421 ) * <brollyferret@nospAM.gmail.com> on Saturday February 07, 2009 @01:35PM (#26764923) Journal

    You sir have never worked in tech support or talked to anyone who does.

    That beast does exist.

  • by neubsi ( 1039512 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @01:38PM (#26764945)
    hey let them attack the linux desktop as much as they want. but lets hope it will be openly, the more the public knows the more pr linux is gona get... maybe its been 25 years but now it seems ms thinks its a threat. and i think they are right. been using linux sporadic over the last 5-10 years and it was never ready to be my only desktop, servers on the other side, well just a exchange clone is missing, for everything else ill never touch ms again. but now with this many distis and a whole lot of them are really good, ms should fear for the next few years linux could get more of the share.
  • by Fruit ( 31966 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @02:24PM (#26765325)
    Maybe because Ubuntu say so themselves [launchpad.net]?
  • by rs232 ( 849320 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @02:28PM (#26765373)
    Open source commonly refers to software whose source code is subject to a license allowing it to be modified, combined with other software and redistributed, subject to restrictions set forth in the license.

    A number of commercial firms compete with us using an open source business model by modifying and then distributing open source software to end users at nominal cost and earning revenue on complementary services and products.

    These firms do not bear the full costs of research and development for the software. Some of these firms may build upon Microsoft ideas that we provide to them free or at low royalties in connection with our interoperability initiatives [sec.gov]. To the extent open source software gains increasing market acceptance, our sales, revenue and operating margins may decline.

    Open source software vendors are devoting considerable efforts to developing software that mimics the features and functionality of our products, in some cases on the basis of technical specifications for Microsoft technologies that we make available ..
  • Re:woo (Score:5, Informative)

    by paimin ( 656338 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @02:46PM (#26765551)
    m/(ba|c|tc|k)?sh/
  • Re:woo (Score:5, Informative)

    by spasm ( 79260 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @03:16PM (#26765819) Homepage

    "f you've got a legacy of MS documents that you can't easily move, you're kind of stuck with MS."

    There's a lot of truth in this, but just the same, for the vast majority of organizations it's the content of those documents which is really important, not the exact layout (think about how quickly in real terms most large organizations managed to transform all those business-essential forms and documents from paper to electronic form - less than a decade for most - and that was a much more costly transition in terms of the human hours involved than merely reformatting some .doc-formatted files).

    My suspicion is in years to come there's going to be a lot of demand for tools like the (open source) Australian government-funded Xena [sourceforge.net], an "XML Normalizing tool" for converting almost any digital document format you care to name to an open XML format for archiving and re-use.

  • by Svartalf ( 2997 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @07:41PM (#26767799) Homepage

    Excuse me...

    30+ million is NOT 0.1 percent of the market.

    Novell pinned it at that back three years ago at BrainShare.

    If you go off of the web stats line, you're missing that many sites that are covered aren't of interest to Linux people or that if they are, there's very much a bunch of us out there with altered browser idents (You CAN alter that, you know...) so that they look like an XP box so that the sites out there that're stupidly coded won't block them out because only "Windows" machines are supported...

    If you go off of things like IDC figures, you're dead wrong there. That's based off of reported sales of given OSes. With Linux you don't have to buy to use. Moreover, the "reported sales" of Windows are off by a bit always.

    In the case of XP, I've two machines that they claim as "sold". NEITHER are running it right now.

    In the case of Vista, I've a laptop they're claiming as one of their sales. Sure it's sold. But it's not being ran on it, nor will it ever be.

    You can't base things off of the numbers out there right at the moment because they're either measuring it in a flawed manner or you're relying on honesty out of the people reporting it, etc.

  • Re:Simple (Score:3, Informative)

    by supernova_hq ( 1014429 ) on Saturday February 07, 2009 @11:49PM (#26769167)
    Unless Jerry Seinfeld is involved.
  • Re:Ummm (Score:3, Informative)

    by supernova_hq ( 1014429 ) on Sunday February 08, 2009 @01:07AM (#26769725)
    Wow, I guess you never saw
    • Scale
    • Widget Layer
    • Hot Corners (some find annoying, but I love them)
    • Window Preview (just like w7, but live)
    • Transparency (very nice when using terminal, etc)
    • Ring Switcher (see all your windows, not just the edge, like vista/w7)
    • Magnifier (REALLY useful for web dev)
    • Expo (zoom out and see all your desktops)
    • Annotate (nice for slide shows/presentations)
    • Group and Tab windows
    • Put (learns where you like your different programs to appear)
    • Tile (what you expect, but very customizable)
    • Shelf (shrinks a window to the corner)
    • Move Window (just alt+drag, no need to grab the bar at the top)
    • Resize Window (just alt+middle_drag, no need to try to click the edge/corner).
    • Multiple Desktops (all windows variants SUCK)

    How about if before you call something useless, you actually try it out instead of just basing your opinions on youtube videos.

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