Microsoft Unveils Windows 7 File-Sharing Beta 230
nandemoari writes "Microsoft yesterday released a trial version of new file-sharing software intended for use with its upcoming and highly-anticipated operating system.
The new software allows PC users to swap files with the computers of friends, family, and trusted colleagues along safe, secure channels. Dubbed 'Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant 6.5,' the beta connects the Windows Live IDs of individual users with a Windows 7 account, essentially building a secure link between data stored on a hard drive and information accessible via Windows Live online."
Wait until the malware guys exploit this... (Score:5, Informative)
Other than that, it seems like it's just for setting up circle jerks to porn.
Storage (Score:3, Informative)
That's actually pretty cool. Making a homegroup painless and takes a few mouse clicks, and if you have a copy of the beta you (most likely) already have a .NET passport.
So, Homegroup + .NET passport = free file sharing to anyone on your homegroup? Intriguing, but the article implies that there must be a way to invite a computer NOT on your LAN into a homegroup. I'm guessing that's what that new file sharing program is about.
Skydrive is nice already (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Product naming, again (Score:4, Informative)
Apple calls it MobileMe [apple.com].
Re:They omitted something... (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft is a company in trouble
I don't think so: Go to the links below and look at the max trends NASDAQ Composite: http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ [google.com]
MSFT: http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:MSFT [google.com]
If you notice MS has been following the same pattern as NASDAQ - yes down right now, but that is not because MS is failing it is because there is a tighter crunch in the market. This tighter crunch means companies are spending less, and they will hold onto their old infrastructure as long as possible (banks are notorious for having legacy products). It also means they are not converting to other infrastructure (contrary to popular belief it is not as easy/cheap to switch)
MS has a 159 billion market cap. Total revenue 2008 = 60,420 (million). Total revenue 2007 = 51,122 (million). Their total revenue went up. So did their net income.
No they don't have a failing product (dollar-wise) though what you say seems to fail.
Re:Warning - concealed terms of service (Score:4, Informative)
If you scroll down further, you'll see "Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant 6.5 beta License Terms.rtf" which can be downloaded and viewed separately without having to install the program.
Re:How does the new KDE 4.2 do this? (Score:2, Informative)
I believe it is remote:/ in Dolphin (the file manager), but I only have one box running KDE, so I'm not sure.
That said, sftp and scp are remarkably easy for securely moving files. scp @: . works from more or less any linux or Mac computer. As in anywhere.
Re:How does the new KDE 4.2 do this? (Score:3, Informative)
So, thats the problem with sharing with anony on a XP install. I was wondering if I broke something.
The proper way to do this is to enable the Guest account, which is disabled by default. You can do that in User Management.
They are in a Red Queen's Race (Score:5, Informative)
Considering they have spent tens of billions of dollars [nwsource.com] just to keep their market price from falling more, then I think one can say Microsoft is in deep trouble, considering the stock market alone.
Re:How does the new KDE 4.2 do this? (Score:3, Informative)
KDE 4.2 can handle filesharing through samba or you can have it through zeroconf + FISH or zeroconf + SFTP or even zeroconf + NFS although I couldn't get the last combination to work properly, it seem that nfs:// browsing is a bit buggy there.
Re:Product naming, again (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah, as opposed to something like Linux, which is... oh wait... crap.
No offense to Linux users, I'm one myself, but it's just not everyday that you see Microsoft described as "geared to the techie user". Everything in Windows is obfuscated and hidden from the technical user by the elaborate machinations designed to allow the 'average joe' to accomplish simply only those things that Microsoft assumes the 'average joe' wants to do.
Re:it's a trap! (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft is a big enough target that it doesn't want to get sued over copyright violations.
I don't think that is really the main the reason. If Microsoft wants to defend a charge of vicarious (i.e. they assisted others) infringement then they need only point to Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984) [wikipedia.org] aka "the Betamax case" and make the Res Ipsa Loquitur [wikipedia.org] (the matter speaks for itself) case that the Windows OS has "substantial non-infringing uses".
That was why Vista and Windows 7 have all that DRM crap.
I think that the other posters on this thread are right when they say that Microsoft was trying to capture market share in the home entertainment market by offering what they believed were enticing DRM features to the entertainment industry. There was just one small problem, they forgot about their real customers, the home users, along the way and the strategy has been largely unsuccessful as a result. It probably also doesn't help that Ballmer, the present CEO of Microsoft, has views on copyright and culture that fit closely with those of the big media companies whereas Steve Jobs of Apple is more in tune with what the consumer market wants and the "spirit of the times", even going so far as to publicly call the record company execs "greedy".
Has anyone ever built a secure file sharing utility over the internet that hasn't been abused in some way? Ever?
If I had to guess, I would say that the top level Warez groups probably have the closest thing to a secure file sharing network as anyone. They are constantly under fire from the media companies and various government agencies and that kind of heat tends to burn off the impurities and leave behind a very well configured and secured server (the lesser ones having long since been busted and broken up).
One enterprising teen could make all of your dirty laundry public knowledge.
Actually, it will probably be the Russian mafia and their hacker associates; they specialize in blackmail, but it takes a certain minimum net worth to draw their attention.