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OpenOffice UI Design Proposals Published 252

An anonymous reader writes "Various members of the OpenOffice.org community have been submitting their first revisions of proposals to the OpenOffice.org Call for Design Proposals to redesign the user interface of Open Office. As part of Project Renaissance, attention is being drawn to the OpenOffice user interface, and it's 'user-friendliness.' Among the designs, is FLUX UI, which won an award at the Sun Microsystems Community Innovation Awards Program. Anyone can, and is encouraged, to check out the proposals (scroll to bottom of page) and leave your comments so that the designers can improve their designs for the final deadline for proposal submissions to the community."
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OpenOffice UI Design Proposals Published

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:34PM (#27909697)

    You've been subjected to "The Beta Index." Go in to Help/Preferences, and uncheck "Use Beta Index" in the Beta Index options.

  • by Twillerror ( 536681 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:54PM (#27910027) Homepage Journal

    Hit the alt key(in offcie 2007)...everything in the ribbon is availabe with a key combination. Maybe a different one then you are used too..but practically everything can be done with the keyboard.

  • by BadAnalogyGuy ( 945258 ) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Monday May 11, 2009 @01:56PM (#27910063)

    Did I just goatse... myself?

    No. In the event of an actual goatse, you would be quivering in the corner desperately searching for your innocence.

  • by supernova_hq ( 1014429 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:00PM (#27910135)
    You think that's bad? Try using MS Office 2007 on a eee. The bloody ribbon takes up a quarter of the freaking screen!
  • by Blakey Rat ( 99501 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:06PM (#27910213)

    Anyway, I'm all for reorganizing the interface, but there should be some way to hide all the ribbony stuff when you are on a machine with a small screen where menus still make the most sense. I've never tried to use Office 2007 on a netbook, but I'd wager it is a sick joke.

    1) The ribbon takes up fewer pixels than Office 2003's default toolbars, so it's definitely no worse than before, and
    2) it can be set to "minimize", which basically makes it the same height as a normal menu bar.

    In short, works fine on a netbook. Give it a try.

  • by adonoman ( 624929 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:09PM (#27910263)
    Try either double-clicking on one of the ribbon tab titles, or right-click on the ribbon and check "Minimize the ribbon" or using the keyboard: <alt>, <menu key>, n
  • by vlm ( 69642 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @02:09PM (#27910267)

    Don't forget to make sure it's difficult for the visually impaired to use, and impossible for those relying on screen readers to explore the interface as a sighted person could do! You're 99% of the way there already, I'm sure you can come up with the remaining 1%

    Oh, theres a lot more than 1% of the way to go to make a totally useless GUI.

    How about using unintelligible icons? That way you can make it impossible to teach anyone how to use it verbally, makes it only possible to describe operations visually. "now right click on the second icon from the left that looks like a squashed centipede, obviously everyone who centers text thinks of squishing a centipede". Bonus points if the icon is could be interpreted obscenely in a Freudian manner or is a swear word in some obscure ideographic script. After all, all of your users are experts at learning ideographic scripts like Egyptian hieroglyphics, so instead of typing "load" or "open" on a command line, make them memorize that a clovis arrowhead means open in this program, but a little star trek shuttle means open in this program.

    Then too, make it graphically as utterly modal as possible. Pop up screens that come from pop up screens that come from menu bars on pop up screens. Make it as challenging as memorizing the knot and overlap structure of a bowl of spaghetti. Organize the pop ups and menus solely by programing team or by how the marketing gang declared how the tool would be used. Bonus points if its possible to open multiple different config windows simultanously, but only change things in one window at a time. And try to lock the screen so the user can't look at other windows (like a cheatsheet or notes or whatever) while a config window is open.

    Don't ever use threads and don't worry about responsiveness. If clicking on the "wrong" thing appears to lock the machine up for seconds, even minutes, with no way to quickly stop it or go back, thats OK. You know you've succeeded if the user forums describe the best roll back technique as "quit and reload" or "easiest just to reboot and try again". If they complain that is slow, tell them to get a faster PC.

    Can't get here from there... Lets say there is 20 step procedure to get from here to there. Make sure that the rollback procedure is a totally and utterly different 40 step procedure. Whatever you do, don't make a global "undo" button that works, or at least works reliably (its OK if it only works on 75% of the operations, then no one will expect it to ever work and thus will never use it). Forward should never equal or be equivalent to backward.

    Everyone whom uses the program only wants to see your glorious program, right? Not their little data or whatever it is they are working on. So FLOOD the workspace with an infinite array of tool bars and buttons covering almost the entire workspace. After all, if they paid $500 for a bigger monitor, your program should get that screen area, not their data.

  • Double-click the tabs at the top of the ribbon, and the ribbon itself vanishes. Single click a tab to show it temporarily, like a menu. Double-click to get it to show permanently again.

    This has existed since it was beta software called "Office 12." It's surprisingly poorly advertised; the behavior is logical but a little un-intuitive since most UIs don't do things like that, so a little user education would be smart.

  • by PCM2 ( 4486 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @03:59PM (#27911965) Homepage

    Or for that matter, go to Customize, pull up "Commands Not in the Ribbon," and assign "ToggleFull" to the F11 key (the same key that is used in Firefox). Voila! No wasted screen real estate.

  • by shutdown -p now ( 807394 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @05:52PM (#27913885) Journal

    You think that's bad? Try using MS Office 2007 on a eee. The bloody ribbon takes up a quarter of the freaking screen!

    If you actually measure the height of menubar + default set of toolbars in Office 2003, and the height of ribbon in Office 2007, you'll see that ribbon is, in fact, slightly smaller.

  • Re:Leave it be? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Brave Guy ( 457657 ) on Monday May 11, 2009 @06:10PM (#27914199)

    I suspect you'll be in a fairly small minority. The current UI not only looks dated (not a serious problem) but also has basic usability flaws all over it (which is). It's visually cluttered but inconsistent in where related commands appear on menus and toolbars, and there are numerous problems with interfaces for specific functionality (the styles and numbering features in Writer, formula editing in Calc, etc.).

    If you follow the link to TFA and note the various priorities they describe there, I reckon they've got a pretty good handle on how a replacement UI should be designed, and if you consider how each point applies to the current UI, it's a pretty good checklist to identify the shortcomings.

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